Kelly Pavlik..

[Alpha]

I also liked Pavlik. I think his outside the ring antics probably contributed to his early demise and deterioration . His only losses were to 2 excellent fighters. His record is a bit lite on name victories tho.

[erics44]

Martinez was a good fighter but not amazing

he probly made his name off the Pavlik and maybe Williams wins, and I think Pavlik was well on the addiction slide by the time he fought Martinez

[Silkeyjoe]

Martinez was a good fighter but not amazing

he probly made his name off the Pavlik and maybe Williams wins, and I think Pavlik was well on the addiction slide by the time he fought Martinez

What? Martinez was a machine. Noone at light middle would fight him so he made a name for himself destroying bigger guys at middle.

[erics44]

Martinez was a good fighter but not amazing

he probly made his name off the Pavlik and maybe Williams wins, and I think Pavlik was well on the addiction slide by the time he fought Martinez

What? Martinez was a machine. Noone at light middle would fight him so he made a name for himself destroying bigger guys at middle.

who did he destroy?

[Master]

Martinez was a good fighter but not amazing

he probly made his name off the Pavlik and maybe Williams wins, and I think Pavlik was well on the addiction slide by the time he fought Martinez

What? Martinez was a machine. Noone at light middle would fight him so he made a name for himself destroying bigger guys at middle.

who did he destroy?

Williams!!

[imp]

Strange how Marquez knocking out Pac was a lucky punch or fluke, but nothing lucky about martinez knocking out Williams.

[X]

​Marquez was looking for that counter right, as PAC was coming in, all fight. I am a PAC fan, but that knockout was no fluke.

[X]

No disrespect to Pavlik, as I'm sure he was a better fighter than me, but I never thought he was truly elite.

He was heavy handed and quite exciting to watch - definitely world class for a very short period of time. However, his prime was too short and h never really dominated in the way a genuine elite boxer does.

its a shame that his out of the ring problems cut his career short, but the fact is that they did so his career ended up slightly disappointing. Sure, he beat Hopkins (but I never thought that Hopkins was the all-time great that everybody seems to think he was, and h didn't really face a host of other world class fighters.

A little bit of e can't help thinking that he got a lot more attention because he was a white American, at a time when there were comparatively few white Americans at the top of the sport.

[X]

What an idiot ..... of course, Pavlik beat Taylor not Hopkins!!!

[klimbo]

No disrespect to Pavlik, as I'm sure he was a better fighter than me, but I never thought he was truly elite.

He was heavy handed and quite exciting to watch - definitely world class for a very short period of time. However, his prime was too short and h never really dominated in the way a genuine elite boxer does.

its a shame that his out of the ring problems cut his career short, but the fact is that they did so his career ended up slightly disappointing. Sure, he beat Hopkins (but I never thought that Hopkins was the all-time great that everybody seems to think he was, and h didn't really face a host of other world class fighters. Lucky Patcher 9Apps VidMate

A little bit of e can't help thinking that he got a lot more attention because he was a white American, at a time when there were comparatively few white Americans at the top of the sport.

historically white Americans do not exist in this sport

[Master]

Was his alcohol problem that bad that he had to retire?

Shame as he had a big future and was tough fighter who got stronger as the fight went on.

[Alpha]

Was his alcohol problem that bad that he had to retire?

Shame as he had a big future and was tough fighter who got stronger as the fight went on.

That and his constant run ins with the law I guess.

[Master]

Was his alcohol problem that bad that he had to retire?

Shame as he had a big future and was tough fighter who got stronger as the fight went on.

That and his constant run ins with the law I guess.

I wonder how he is doing now?

Is he still in boxing?

Wasted talent but heard he did not make a lot of money and that what he earned was lost.

[Beanz]

Was his alcohol problem that bad that he had to retire?

Shame as he had a big future and was tough fighter who got stronger as the fight went on.

That and his constant run ins with the law I guess.

I wonder how he is doing now?

Is he still in boxing?

Wasted talent but heard he did not make a lot of money and that what he earned was lost.

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[chris6878]

Was his alcohol problem that bad that he had to retire?

Shame as he had a big future and was tough fighter who got stronger as the fight went on.

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