Marvin Hagler v Gennady Golovkin

[El Kabong]

Any middleweight who ever lived? So let's say a Middleweight RJJ fought Hagler....RJJ wouldn't be able to stop him? Ezzard Charles as a middleweight wouldn't stop him? I just find that a bit hard to believe. Hagler was solid and had a granite chin, but un-knock-out-able I don't think he was.

[mikeeod]

Any middleweight who ever lived? So let's say a Middleweight RJJ fought Hagler....RJJ wouldn't be able to stop him? Ezzard Charles as a middleweight wouldn't stop him? I just find that a bit hard to believe. Hagler was solid and had a granite chin, but un-knock-out-able I don't think he was.

I don't see Roy stopping him. I just don't see it. At best Roy would outspeed him similar to his fights vs Hop and Toney. He never had either of those two in trouble and I don't see either having a better chin than Hagler.

Charles was a great fighter, in my opinion the GOAT at light heavy, but haven't seen much film of him at 160. He peaked at 175, so that leads me to believe that his strength/power may have suffered at 160. Things just "click" for certain fighters at certain weights. Hagler clicked at 160, and Charles clicked at 175. I don't see either being stopped at either weight by anyone.

[Ron Swanson]

GGG does his best work when the opponent takes time off. When would he get his best work done against Hagler? Bad matchup for GGG

[Beanz]

Is it over 12 or 15 ?


I don't see anyone stopping Golovkin either but there are many fighters who seem unknockoutable until it happens. My head says Hagler on points because of his ability to readjust and find angles but maybe Gennady is more Marvelous than Marvin where heart is concerned, hard to tell until someone is able to really put it on him.

Hagler- close points decision.

[johnsebastianmiran]

I have seen both fighters in their time frame an Marvin aka the worker and man of war vs. the modern man of war but GGG takes coffee breaks during his defenses. He can't with Marvin but if he took his break after the fight, I feel war would have a new definition.

[Alpha]

Any middleweight who ever lived? So let's say a Middleweight RJJ fought Hagler....RJJ wouldn't be able to stop him? Ezzard Charles as a middleweight wouldn't stop him? I just find that a bit hard to believe. Hagler was solid and had a granite chin, but un-knock-out-able I don't think he was.

It would be a small list of middleweights that would have been able to stop Hagler. Jackson, Ketchel, McClellan, Benn, Graziano, Hearns, Robinson, Jones Jr., Fitzsimmons, Langford, Fernandez. Possibly a few more I'd give a chance. Not saying these guys would knock him out but if they landed clean they could have.

[powerpuncher]

Any middleweight who ever lived? So let's say a Middleweight RJJ fought Hagler....RJJ wouldn't be able to stop him? Ezzard Charles as a middleweight wouldn't stop him? I just find that a bit hard to believe. Hagler was solid and had a granite chin, but un-knock-out-able I don't think he was.

It would be a small list of middleweights that would have been able to stop Hagler. Jackson, Ketchel, McClellan, Benn, Graziano, Hearns, Robinson, Jones Jr., Fitzsimmons, Langford, Fernandez. Possibly a few more I'd give a chance. Not saying these guys would knock him out but if they landed clean they could have.

I'm assuming that any person in the history of the world could possibly be knocked out by a hard shot. Hagler had as granite of a chin as there ever was in boxing history. So is it possible he got KO'd? Sure. But it would be about as likely as McGregor beating mayweather in a boxing match.

Not only did hagler have a great chin, but he was a good enough boxer that he didn't just get hit flush over and over. It's not as if he didn't know how to move if he were hurt.

[Alpha]

Any middleweight who ever lived? So let's say a Middleweight RJJ fought Hagler....RJJ wouldn't be able to stop him? Ezzard Charles as a middleweight wouldn't stop him? I just find that a bit hard to believe. Hagler was solid and had a granite chin, but un-knock-out-able I don't think he was.

It would be a small list of middleweights that would have been able to stop Hagler. Jackson, Ketchel, McClellan, Benn, Graziano, Hearns, Robinson, Jones Jr., Fitzsimmons, Langford, Fernandez. Possibly a few more I'd give a chance. Not saying these guys would knock him out but if they landed clean they could have.

I'm assuming that any person in the history of the world could possibly be knocked out by a hard shot. Hagler had as granite of a chin as there ever was in boxing history. So is it possible he got KO'd? Sure. But it would be about as likely as McGregor beating mayweather in a boxing match.

Not only did hagler have a great chin, but he was a good enough boxer that he didn't just get hit flush over and over. It's not as if he didn't know how to move if he were hurt.

Exactly and it would have to be someone in the company of those punchers to do it.

[brocktonblockbust]

Marvelous Marvin Hagler used to do 1000 push-ups and 1000 sit-ups per day. His punches would penetrate through the opponent's bones and out the other side like a bullet. He was the most compact fighter in the history of boxing besides Rocky Marciano and they both came from Brockton Massachusetts. Marvelous Marvin Hagler wouldve ended the career of Triple G because Triple-G likes to come forward. Anybody on this boxing Forum thinks that any fighter who comes forward would stand a chance against Marvin Hagler is just as asinine as any other poster who thinks a fighter who comes forward will stand a chance against George Foreman. It's just not going to work ...keep dreaming

[Master]

"He was the most compact fighter in the history of boxing besides Rocky Marciano" is the dumbest statement ever posted on saddo.

Rocky was never the most compact fighter and to compare him to Hagler is ridiculous.

[brocktonblockbust]

"He was the most compact fighter in the history of boxing besides Rocky Marciano" is the dumbest statement ever posted on saddo.

Rocky was never the most compact fighter and to compare him to Hagler is ridiculous.

Even dumber than that is your failure to understand what compact means