Ricky Burns v Julius Indongo - rd-by-rd/Sky Sports

[Master]

I thought he would be finished at the top level after his loss to Crawford and his performances before that but he just keeps defying the odds.

Burns put a great performance by beating Kevin Mitchell years ago and now he is unifying the title. Yet he is on no ones top 5 UK fighters.

[erics44]

he should be dude

[Primo Carnera]

he should be dude

No he fucking Shouldn't , come on. Look I love Ricky Burns as a bloke, he's a top guy, I love his down to earth story of when he first became lightweight World Champ he carried on working at JJB Sports. And I love that he has taken his career serious enough to move trainers down to London with Tony Sims .
But as a boxer, he has been found out by Beltran, Crawford, Zlaticanin and Figueroa Jr. (although tbf he put up a decent show against Figueroa if memory serves me right.)
He's never fought a top 10 Light Welter , I haven't got a clue how Eddie Engineered a World title shot for him.
and before I get accused of running down the Brits , I stress that I don't begrudge him any of it because I think he's a fantastic bloke, I'm just being honest about where he is, and to further prove it's not an anti Brit thing , I reckon if he fought Ohara Davies and maybe even Jack Catterall, they would be too much for him .

[erics44]

he should be dude

No he fucking Shouldn't , come on. Look I love Ricky Burns as a bloke, he's a top guy, I love his down to earth story of when he first became lightweight World Champ he carried on working at JJB Sports. And I love that he has taken his career serious enough to move trainers down to London with Tony Sims .
But as a boxer, he has been found out by Beltran, Crawford, Zlaticanin and Figueroa Jr. (although tbf he put up a decent show against Figueroa if memory serves me right.)
He's never fought a top 10 Light Welter , I haven't got a clue how Eddie Engineered a World title shot for him.
and before I get accused of running down the Brits , I stress that I don't begrudge him any of it because I think he's a fantastic bloke, I'm just being honest about where he is, and to further prove it's not an anti Brit thing , I reckon if he fought Ohara Davies and maybe even Jack Catterall, they would be too much for him .

I think he beat Figueroa, home town decision if I ever saw one

and he has a bad run of 3 fights

although a loss to Crawford isn't anything to be worried about

so there was the beltram defeat (broken jaw in the second), Crawford, the other fella, and the Figueroa robbery

[Fenster]

Terrific bit of matchmaking by Matchroom (Hearn). Burns could become a unified 140 champion, about 4 years after he was considered past his pomp, against a geezer that has fought for 30 seconds outside of Namibia.

Burns losses are nothing to be ashamed of, all against top-class fighters, even going back to Carl Johanneson. He arguably gave Crawford his most competitive fight. He fought for 10 rounds with a broken jaw against the cheating cunt Beltran. Zlaticanin proved to be a world-class lightweight by winning a title and arguably beat Figueroa, who was not just naturally much bigger but also had a tag team partner in Laurence Cole.

If he wins he'll probably get a Crawford rematch in the states. Mad.

[erics44]

was beltram a junky?

[Fenster]

He's been done for roids a couple of times

[Master]

Just watched Burns fight with Martinez where he won the title 2010 and was knocked down early but won the fight in a excellent war of attrition and skill. Burns is quality.

[Primo Carnera]

Terrific bit of matchmaking by Matchroom (Hearn). Burns could become a unified 140 champion, about 4 years after he was considered past his pomp, against a geezer that has fought for 30 seconds outside of Namibia.

Burns losses are nothing to be ashamed of, all against top-class fighters, even going back to Carl Johanneson. He arguably gave Crawford his most competitive fight. He fought for 10 rounds with a broken jaw against the cheating cunt Beltran. Zlaticanin proved to be a world-class lightweight by winning a title and arguably beat Figueroa, who was not just naturally much bigger but also had a tag team partner in Laurence Cole.

If he wins he'll probably get a Crawford rematch in the states. Mad.

Agree with everything you said. Miracle matchmaking from Matchroom and his defeats aren't anything to be ashamed of.
I also hope he keeps this going for as long as possible.
But as soon as he comes up against a top LWW , he'll get beat. That's not me hating on him, it's just stating a fact. No shame in it though.

[Primo Carnera]

I thought he would be finished at the top level after his loss to Crawford and his performances before that but he just keeps defying the odds.

Burns put a great performance by beating Kevin Mitchell years ago and now he is unifying the title. Yet he is on no ones top 5 UK fighters.

Do you and Eric still think so?

[Master]

I thought he would be finished at the top level after his loss to Crawford and his performances before that but he just keeps defying the odds.

Burns put a great performance by beating Kevin Mitchell years ago and now he is unifying the title. Yet he is on no ones top 5 UK fighters.

Do you and Eric still think so?

You have got to give Burns credit for taking a risk by trying to unify the title.

Burns could have won some easy defences but he chose to take a chance to enhance his legacy.

Stop trying to discredit his career.

[Primo Carnera]

I thought he would be finished at the top level after his loss to Crawford and his performances before that but he just keeps defying the odds.

Burns put a great performance by beating Kevin Mitchell years ago and now he is unifying the title. Yet he is on no ones top 5 UK fighters.

Do you and Eric still think so?

You have got to give Burns credit for taking a risk by trying to unify the title.

Burns could have won some easy defences but he chose to take a chance to enhance his legacy.

Stop trying to discredit his career.

I'm not trying to discredit his career. If you read my posts you would realise that.
I was discrediting yours (and Eric's) dopey opinion that he was in the Brit top 5 p4p.
It was a total knee jerk based on you falling for the hype from your mate Eddie . Just because he can be financially jostled into a position for a relatively easy title shot, you make him out to be the best thing sliced bread. How ironic that you make out you can't stand Hearn, but you fall for all his spin. "Mug" springs to mind! 😉😂

[Master]

I thought he would be finished at the top level after his loss to Crawford and his performances before that but he just keeps defying the odds.

Burns put a great performance by beating Kevin Mitchell years ago and now he is unifying the title. Yet he is on no ones top 5 UK fighters.

Do you and Eric still think so?

You have got to give Burns credit for taking a risk by trying to unify the title.

Burns could have won some easy defences but he chose to take a chance to enhance his legacy.

Stop trying to discredit his career.

I'm not trying to discredit his career. If you read my posts you would realise that.
I was discrediting yours (and Eric's) dopey opinion that he was in the Brit top 5 p4p.
It was a total knee jerk based on you falling for the hype from your mate Eddie . Just because he can be financially jostled into a position for a relatively easy title shot, you make him out to be the best thing sliced bread. How ironic that you make out you can't stand Hearn, but you fall for all his spin. "Mug" springs to mind! 😉😂

I never fall for Hearn spin, Burns has been around long before Eddie took over.

[Primo Carnera]

I thought he would be finished at the top level after his loss to Crawford and his performances before that but he just keeps defying the odds.

Burns put a great performance by beating Kevin Mitchell years ago and now he is unifying the title. Yet he is on no ones top 5 UK fighters.

Do you and Eric still think so?

You have got to give Burns credit for taking a risk by trying to unify the title.

Burns could have won some easy defences but he chose to take a chance to enhance his legacy.

Stop trying to discredit his career.

I'm not trying to discredit his career. If you read my posts you would realise that.
I was discrediting yours (and Eric's) dopey opinion that he was in the Brit top 5 p4p.
It was a total knee jerk based on you falling for the hype from your mate Eddie . Just because he can be financially jostled into a position for a relatively easy title shot, you make him out to be the best thing sliced bread. How ironic that you make out you can't stand Hearn, but you fall for all his spin. "Mug" springs to mind! 😉😂

I never fall for Hearn spin, Burns has been around long before Eddie took over.

Very true , but it was Hearn that gave him the platform to resurrect his career when everyone thought he was finished. And it was Hearn that engineered him into contention for a winnable title. Other fighters , probably better than Burns don't get that opportunity.
But I don't want to make this a "Bash Ricky Burns" post, I like the guy a lot (who wouldn't he's a great bloke.), but the difference is how I rate him as a fighter is based on what I see for myself, not what people tell me and paper titles.
So admit it , Ricky , and people who rate him (You) should be GRATEFUL to Sky/Matchroom, in fact didn't Ricky say as much?

[Master]

Point being Ricky could have made easier fights and defences but he went for a unification. That deserves credit, especially as his best days are probably behind him. Yes people have been saying that about him for some time now.