Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
Levin, Beck, and Ettiene had no chins whatsoever

Barrett has a HUGE shot to beat him he has a good chin he has below average power, but when he's busy he does very well.

It's bullshit he got a title shot a YEAR after fighting Rahman though


And I'll keep saying Valuev's chin is not all that...he's been hurt before but no one followed up. Otis Tisdale, Tomas Bidenko....those guys caught him pretty good and they aren't known for their power
a) I think that it wasnt only the chin that was the trouble for Etienne Beck and Levin, it was also that their "taking it to Val" didnt pay off and they got overpowered. This is what has happened so far for those who try fighting.
b) Barrett has not much more power than Etienne or Bidenko, and so fighting as opposed to boxing will not pay off, Val wont go down and barrett will get tired and crumble. There is no reason to think that he is so much better than the others that he will accomplish what they couldnt.
c) Still its cool that we disagree; it shows us that -contrary to what I think- its perhaps not a clear Val W.
d) Val is better now than before.
e) The best evidence of good chin is to not have been counted out; 44 fights and no loss; really despite looking strartled -perhaps surprised- a couple of times in his carreer the evidence is that he is very solid. Of course he still needs to fight Lamon or Peter to see if he is really amazingly solid. Actually; his record is not compatible with having a weak chin.
f) Chin is influenced by stamina; and Valuev has so far shown excellent stamina and excellent pacing.

OK LYLE I WILL MAKE FUN OF YOU IF VALUEV MAKES A BECK OR ETIENNE OUT OF MONTE!!!