Some cultures are better than others ? True, False, Impossible to answer conclusively

[El Kabong]

Nocookies | The Australian

But according to @Beanz you can't tell if one culture is better than another culture OR all cultures are equal....you beat your wife? Why not? All cultures are equal after all OR you can't tell if one is worse than another....why don't you beat your wife?

Wrong. According to YOU "Some cultures are better than others". This is your premise and not something that i have put forward. I don't have to prove all cultures are equal because I don't believe men and women are equal or black people and white people are equal, or any of that nonsense. You are the one reducing everything to such simple terms. If you can only see the world like that then that explains a lot. You have said yourself that you do not consider your culture the best culture, but if you are going to suggest that some cultures are better than others you better identify the gold standard. You need to do this. You need to prove the ultimate benchmark so that other people can grade cultures below it accordingly, and decide which cultures are better than others. You would not even or could not identify which culture was your own. You are using a fuzzy double standard in order to prove a strawman point.

Picking and choosing single elements to define a culture as huge, expansive, diverse and varied as Islam just so you can make your self feel superior.


You get enraged when Master suggests you would not like to be judged by an extreme organisation like the KKK but you have no problem using an extreme example to judge the whole Islamic world.


You are also incredibly ignorant in so many of your assumptions because you are searching only for things to support your position. It seems to matter not to you that only conservative interpretations of the Quran suggest that wife beating is allowed and that other interpretations suggest that one should leave or separate from her and hitting is not allowed. Those Muslims are dismissed because you are not interested in anything but "winning" .


Impossible to answer just does not compute for you because you live in some binary black and white world just as backwards and unsophisticated as those people you are mocking.

The KKK isn't an accepted and valued part of our culture. How many times must I explain that to you? Are you that fucking dumb?


Holy shit, I guess you actually are.

[Beanz]

Nocookies | The Australian

But according to @Beanz you can't tell if one culture is better than another culture OR all cultures are equal....you beat your wife? Why not? All cultures are equal after all OR you can't tell if one is worse than another....why don't you beat your wife?

Wrong. According to YOU "Some cultures are better than others". This is your premise and not something that i have put forward. I don't have to prove all cultures are equal because I don't believe men and women are equal or black people and white people are equal, or any of that nonsense. You are the one reducing everything to such simple terms. If you can only see the world like that then that explains a lot. You have said yourself that you do not consider your culture the best culture, but if you are going to suggest that some cultures are better than others you better identify the gold standard. You need to do this. You need to prove the ultimate benchmark so that other people can grade cultures below it accordingly, and decide which cultures are better than others. You would not even or could not identify which culture was your own. You are using a fuzzy double standard in order to prove a strawman point.

Picking and choosing single elements to define a culture as huge, expansive, diverse and varied as Islam just so you can make your self feel superior.


You get enraged when Master suggests you would not like to be judged by an extreme organisation like the KKK but you have no problem using an extreme example to judge the whole Islamic world.


You are also incredibly ignorant in so many of your assumptions because you are searching only for things to support your position. It seems to matter not to you that only conservative interpretations of the Quran suggest that wife beating is allowed and that other interpretations suggest that one should leave or separate from her and hitting is not allowed. Those Muslims are dismissed because you are not interested in anything but "winning" .


Impossible to answer just does not compute for you because you live in some binary black and white world just as backwards and unsophisticated as those people you are mocking.

The KKK isn't an accepted and valued part of our culture. How many times must I explain that to you? Are you that fucking dumb?


Holy shit, I guess you actually are.

Don't be so disingenuous. Wife beating and the terrorist acts you are so keen to attribute to Islam are also not accepted and values parts of Islamic culture for millions of Muslims across the world. You have to suggest I am dumb because your whole argument is built on the same stupid prejudices as Denilson. You are no better. At least he is honest about it

[El Kabong]

Nocookies | The Australian

But according to @Beanz you can't tell if one culture is better than another culture OR all cultures are equal....you beat your wife? Why not? All cultures are equal after all OR you can't tell if one is worse than another....why don't you beat your wife?

Wrong. According to YOU "Some cultures are better than others". This is your premise and not something that i have put forward. I don't have to prove all cultures are equal because I don't believe men and women are equal or black people and white people are equal, or any of that nonsense. You are the one reducing everything to such simple terms. If you can only see the world like that then that explains a lot. You have said yourself that you do not consider your culture the best culture, but if you are going to suggest that some cultures are better than others you better identify the gold standard. You need to do this. You need to prove the ultimate benchmark so that other people can grade cultures below it accordingly, and decide which cultures are better than others. You would not even or could not identify which culture was your own. You are using a fuzzy double standard in order to prove a strawman point.

Picking and choosing single elements to define a culture as huge, expansive, diverse and varied as Islam just so you can make your self feel superior.


You get enraged when Master suggests you would not like to be judged by an extreme organisation like the KKK but you have no problem using an extreme example to judge the whole Islamic world.


You are also incredibly ignorant in so many of your assumptions because you are searching only for things to support your position. It seems to matter not to you that only conservative interpretations of the Quran suggest that wife beating is allowed and that other interpretations suggest that one should leave or separate from her and hitting is not allowed. Those Muslims are dismissed because you are not interested in anything but "winning" .


Impossible to answer just does not compute for you because you live in some binary black and white world just as backwards and unsophisticated as those people you are mocking.

The KKK isn't an accepted and valued part of our culture. How many times must I explain that to you? Are you that fucking dumb?


Holy shit, I guess you actually are.

Don't be so disingenuous. Wife beating and the terrorist acts you are so keen to attribute to Islam are also not accepted and values parts of Islamic culture for millions of Muslims across the world. You have to suggest I am dumb because your whole argument is built on the same stupid prejudices as Denilson. You are no better. At least he is honest about it

Haha, I swear

You don't see news articles about the next lynching do you? Hell knowing how you "debate" maybe you do.

You are in absolute denial if you don't see the wife beating issue in Islam....but hey out of sight out of mind. Sure the news is giving out makeup tips for women to cover their bruises instead of hinting at pressing charges....oh wait, it's not illegal to beat your wife (or wives in the case of Islam) in places like Morocco. Yet anything to do with the KKK is pretty much considered the lowest of the low here in America.....but hey YOU know better than I do why? Because you're Beanz and you don't debate you just fucking say it's so.


Pathetic

[Beanz]

Nocookies | The Australian

But according to @Beanz you can't tell if one culture is better than another culture OR all cultures are equal....you beat your wife? Why not? All cultures are equal after all OR you can't tell if one is worse than another....why don't you beat your wife?

Wrong. According to YOU "Some cultures are better than others". This is your premise and not something that i have put forward. I don't have to prove all cultures are equal because I don't believe men and women are equal or black people and white people are equal, or any of that nonsense. You are the one reducing everything to such simple terms. If you can only see the world like that then that explains a lot. You have said yourself that you do not consider your culture the best culture, but if you are going to suggest that some cultures are better than others you better identify the gold standard. You need to do this. You need to prove the ultimate benchmark so that other people can grade cultures below it accordingly, and decide which cultures are better than others. You would not even or could not identify which culture was your own. You are using a fuzzy double standard in order to prove a strawman point.

Picking and choosing single elements to define a culture as huge, expansive, diverse and varied as Islam just so you can make your self feel superior.


You get enraged when Master suggests you would not like to be judged by an extreme organisation like the KKK but you have no problem using an extreme example to judge the whole Islamic world.


You are also incredibly ignorant in so many of your assumptions because you are searching only for things to support your position. It seems to matter not to you that only conservative interpretations of the Quran suggest that wife beating is allowed and that other interpretations suggest that one should leave or separate from her and hitting is not allowed. Those Muslims are dismissed because you are not interested in anything but "winning" .


Impossible to answer just does not compute for you because you live in some binary black and white world just as backwards and unsophisticated as those people you are mocking.

The KKK isn't an accepted and valued part of our culture. How many times must I explain that to you? Are you that fucking dumb?


Holy shit, I guess you actually are.

Don't be so disingenuous. Wife beating and the terrorist acts you are so keen to attribute to Islam are also not accepted and values parts of Islamic culture for millions of Muslims across the world. You have to suggest I am dumb because your whole argument is built on the same stupid prejudices as Denilson. You are no better. At least he is honest about it

Haha, I swear

You don't see news articles about the next lynching do you? Hell knowing how you "debate" maybe you do.

You are in absolute denial if you don't see the wife beating issue in Islam....but hey out of sight out of mind. Sure the news is giving out makeup tips for women to cover their bruises instead of hinting at pressing charges....oh wait, it's not illegal to beat your wife (or wives in the case of Islam) in places like Morocco. Yet anything to do with the KKK is pretty much considered the lowest of the low here in America.....but hey YOU know better than I do why? Because you're Beanz and you don't debate you just fucking say it's so.


Pathetic

Stop making stuff up. Where have I denied wife beating happening within Islam. It's even in the reply you have quoted. You don't have to be in the KKK to beat your wife in the US or the UK. The horrendous amount of domestic violence cases that I worked on for 10 years proved that to me, and I don't recall any of them being Muslims. 99% of them were white males because that was the demographic and if you don't think that is part of Western Christian and secular culture you are the one in denial.

[El Kabong]

.....wife beating in the UK and US is also against the law. Thereby showing what our respective cultures think about that particular kind of violence.

Need I baby step you through this reasoning again? In the west we have Shelters dedicated to helping such women.....but no, no, Beanz says WE'RE the ones with the problem. Let us all go get a good self flagelation in because Islam doesn't have a problem.....the west does.


Fucking incredible how fucking dense you can be

[El Kabong]

You know Beanz you COULD just YouTube "Wife beating in Islam" and you can see everyone from the Imams to the young men to even the women accepting that kind of violence.....but continue on with your bullshit PLEASE! This shit ain't hidden from the public it's not frowned on, it's not prosecuted, it's a way of life.....but that all goes away because you have your fingers in your ears going "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU! "

[Gandalf]

Asian cultures are probably superior to Western cultures. Stronger sense of family, fewer single mothers, longer life expectancy, higher IQ's, better public transport, ability to manufacture useful products instead of bombs, less violence, less acid attacks, less gangs, less needless police intrusion, more modern infrastructure, healthier people, better diet. It's alright and gets better all the time.

[Beanz]

.....wife beating in the UK and US is also against the law. Thereby showing what our respective cultures think about that particular kind of violence.

Need I baby step you through this reasoning again? In the west we have Shelters dedicated to helping such women.....but no, no, Beanz says WE'RE the ones with the problem. Let us all go get a good self flagelation in because Islam doesn't have a problem.....the west does.


Fucking incredible how fucking dense you can be

Where have I said that Islam does not have a problem? All fundamentalist expressions of religion have a problem. You are acting like a simpleton Lyle. The west like has a problem and ironically that problem is that it is in denial. You seem to want me to occupy a position simply so that you can prove your own very shaky synopsis to have merit. From day one on this forum I have said that I do not think multiculturalism works and that I do not think men and women are equal. I know you probably find it hard to wrap your head around that because you have invented a position for me that makes that position incompatible. I have said also on many occasions that there are huge problems with Islam but that does not fit into your neat version of the world and what you and Brockton have reduced me to in your minds.