AJ-Wlad - Wembley

[El Kabong]

You Brits remember Calzaghe vs Lacy yeah? This could be similar....I mean YES AJ is very talented, he's a good guy, a classy fighter. AJ has good handspeed, solid power, etc...he hasn't yet been tested.


Meanwhile your bias is showing AGAINST Wlad "If he can't hold he's fucked", "90,000 beered up Brits" "AJ attacking him will suit him (look at the Pulev fight) but there's not a single fighter - sorry to bring up my thread title again - that even comes close to emulating the danger AJ poses.".......Alright, ok, fair enough, but Wladimir Klitschko is a PROFESSIONAL boxer with over 60 PROFESSIONAL fights, and over 50 PROFESSIONAL wins by KO, and he had been running the division for 10-11 years until he had what could be called an "off night" vs Tyson Fury and even then people will pretty much agree it's not so much that Tyson went out and won the belts so much as Wlad just went out there and lost them.....that being the case you're all being awfully quick to write Wlad off.


I know everyone is hyped up to see AJ win and usher in a new era of heavyweight boxing......BUT boxing rarely if ever works out as the fans want it to, and with Wlad's trainer already having experience vs Joshua in the Whyte fight, I'm thinking you guys are really gassing yourselves up only to get really disappointed.......





but I suppose you know what you're doing

[smashup]

You Brits remember Calzaghe vs Lacy yeah? This could be similar....I mean YES AJ is very talented, he's a good guy, a classy fighter. AJ has good handspeed, solid power, etc...he hasn't yet been tested.


Meanwhile your bias is showing AGAINST Wlad "If he can't hold he's fucked", "90,000 beered up Brits" "AJ attacking him will suit him (look at the Pulev fight) but there's not a single fighter - sorry to bring up my thread title again - that even comes close to emulating the danger AJ poses.".......Alright, ok, fair enough, but Wladimir Klitschko is a PROFESSIONAL boxer with over 60 PROFESSIONAL fights, and over 50 PROFESSIONAL wins by KO, and he had been running the division for 10-11 years until he had what could be called an "off night" vs Tyson Fury and even then people will pretty much agree it's not so much that Tyson went out and won the belts so much as Wlad just went out there and lost them.....that being the case you're all being awfully quick to write Wlad off.


I know everyone is hyped up to see AJ win and usher in a new era of heavyweight boxing......BUT boxing rarely if ever works out as the fans want it to, and with Wlad's trainer already having experience vs Joshua in the Whyte fight, I'm thinking you guys are really gassing yourselves up only to get really disappointed.......





but I suppose you know what you're doing

There's no Bias at all Lyle, i couldn't care if AJ was from outer mongolia, just because i am a Brit and so is he makes no difference to the way i see this fight going.
Take Wlads advantages away and he's nowhere near the same fighter, He hasn't got his home advantage, Refs who are bent and let him do what he wants which is to Jab and Grab.
He didn't have an off night against Fury, Fury took away all those advantages and beat him fair and square.

Now he has to face young fighters who are bigger and Physically stronger than him and his tactics don't work on them, they are too strong/awkward to let him drape himself over them for 12 rounds.

If anyones Biased it's you with your constant tounge fucking of Wlads asshole which you have done for years.

Here's the link to the free stream of tonights public workouts from Wembley arena (or as Lyle calls it....Wank Fodder)

[El Kabong]

There's no Bias at all Lyle, i couldn't care if AJ was from outer mongolia, just because i am a Brit and so is he makes no difference to the way i see this fight going.

OK then, whatever you say

[Fenster]

Get out of here with the "Brit" thing. I've been listening to loads of American podcasts, fans and writers alike are all over Joshua.

I've been specifically looking for reasons to BACK Wlad, as i'm a million miles from a "Brit" that thinks this is easy for AJ. However, as someone that has followed Wlad's ENTIRE career, even when looking for nothing but positives I always see a negative.

People that think Wlad will win through past experience are the ones that need to have another look.

[El Kabong]

Get out of here with the "Brit" thing. I've been listening to loads of American podcasts, fans and writers alike are all over Joshua.

I've been specifically looking for reasons to BACK Wlad, as i'm a million miles from a "Brit" that thinks this is easy for AJ. However, as someone that has followed Wlad's ENTIRE career, even when looking for nothing but positives I always see a negative.

People that think Wlad will win through past experience are the ones that need to have another look.

Alright, I'm not saying you guys can't shouldn't believe what you believe, I'm just saying everyone is very quick to get out of the Wlad era and I'm thinking it's a bit premature to judge him on JUST the Fury fight, but I suppose we'll all just have to wait and see.

[Kirkland Laing]

Ever since he got humiliated by Sanders he's been safety first and risk averse. Top of the list in this fight for him is not getting sparked and going out like that. The question is if in 2017 he's still got enough jab and grab skills left to keep Joshua away from his chin till the later rounds. Maybe Joshua will be able to get past that jab and knock him out but I have a feeling Junior will have enough left to bore his way through twelve rounds. I can actually see him being happy with a points loss and maybe a rematch down the line but Joshua may struggle to do the distance. It's actually quite a decent fight. I can't believe I'm looking forward to watching another Junior fight.

[El Kabong]

Ever since he got humiliated by Sanders he's been safety first and risk averse. Top of the list in this fight for him is not getting sparked and going out like that. The question is if in 2017 he's still got enough jab and grab skills left to keep Joshua away from his chin till the later rounds. Maybe Joshua will be able to get past that jab and knock him out but I have a feeling Junior will have enough left to bore his way through twelve rounds. I can actually see him being happy with a points loss and maybe a rematch down the line but Joshua may struggle to do the distance. It's actually quite a decent fight. I can't believe I'm looking forward to watching another Junior fight.

OH NO a shocking KO loss in his career.....Why he's the first....AND ONLY heavyweight for that to ever happen to!!!!!


Risk averse? He fought Sam Peter AFTER losing to Sanders and Brewster when he was likewise in a place of WIN or RETIRE...but no no, he's "risk averse" .....and even if you mean IN THE RING ....my God the fucking tragedy that is attempting NOT to get punched in the head.




Are you certain you're not retarded? Fucking Hell, you're missing a good opportunity if you aren't

[Master]

Ever since he got humiliated by Sanders he's been safety first and risk averse. Top of the list in this fight for him is not getting sparked and going out like that. The question is if in 2017 he's still got enough jab and grab skills left to keep Joshua away from his chin till the later rounds. Maybe Joshua will be able to get past that jab and knock him out but I have a feeling Junior will have enough left to bore his way through twelve rounds. I can actually see him being happy with a points loss and maybe a rematch down the line but Joshua may struggle to do the distance. It's actually quite a decent fight. I can't believe I'm looking forward to watching another Junior fight.

OH NO a shocking KO loss in his career.....Why he's the first....AND ONLY heavyweight for that to ever happen to!!!!!


Risk averse? He fought Sam Peter AFTER losing to Sanders and Brewster when he was likewise in a place of WIN or RETIRE...but no no, he's "risk averse" .....and even if you mean IN THE RING ....my God the fucking tragedy that is attempting NOT to get punched in the head.




Are you certain you're not retarded? Fucking Hell, you're missing a good opportunity if you aren't

Calm down, I can not think of any other great heavyweight champion like Wlad who has come back from such devastating losses. Wlad has been champion over 10 years and had more defences than anyone except Louis but you have to admit he does hold/hug even if he is not worried about being knocked out. Povetkin is one classic example.

[El Kabong]

Calm down, I can not think of any other great heavyweight champion like Wlad who has come back from such devastating losses. Wlad has been champion over 10 years and had more defences than anyone except Louis but you have to admit he does hold/hug even if he is not worried about being knocked out. Povetkin is one classic example.

Lennox Lewis recovered from his losses to be an OK boxer, Joe Louis recovered from the loss to Schmelling to do alright for himself.


The clinching is a part of his strategy. OK let's look at Wlad vs Povetkin....Wlad wanted Povetkin at distance, Povetkin wanted quite the opposite, Wlad uses the jab to keep Povetkin at distance, Povetkin slips the jab to get on the inside. Once on the inside it's Povetkin's job to put the work in.....what are Wlad's options when that happens? A) Tie up, the ref breaks you and you're reset B ) Throw punches while Povetkin is in his best range .......hmmmm, which would be the BEST choice.....hmmmmm....guess it'll remain a mystery

[Kirkland Laing]

Ever since he got humiliated by Sanders he's been safety first and risk averse. Top of the list in this fight for him is not getting sparked and going out like that. The question is if in 2017 he's still got enough jab and grab skills left to keep Joshua away from his chin till the later rounds. Maybe Joshua will be able to get past that jab and knock him out but I have a feeling Junior will have enough left to bore his way through twelve rounds. I can actually see him being happy with a points loss and maybe a rematch down the line but Joshua may struggle to do the distance. It's actually quite a decent fight. I can't believe I'm looking forward to watching another Junior fight.

OH NO a shocking KO loss in his career.....Why he's the first....AND ONLY heavyweight for that to ever happen to!!!!!


Risk averse? He fought Sam Peter AFTER losing to Sanders and Brewster when he was likewise in a place of WIN or RETIRE...but no no, he's "risk averse" .....and even if you mean IN THE RING ....my God the fucking tragedy that is attempting NOT to get punched in the head.




Are you certain you're not retarded? Fucking Hell, you're missing a good opportunity if you aren't

Peter was a short fat slow plodder. He looked like one of those morbidly obese people they have to knock a wall down for and use a crane to get them out of their house. Or as you call them in America, an XL.

And Junior was humiliated. Stumbling round the ring, up and down like a whore's drawers. Let's enjoy that fight again.

[El Kabong]

Peter was a short fat slow plodder. He looked like one of those morbidly obese people they have to knock a wall down for and use a crane to get them out of their house. Or as you call them in America, an XL.

And Junior was humiliated. Stumbling round the ring, up and down like a whore's drawers. Let's enjoy that fight again.

Ahhhhh revisionist history, your specialty...



Such slow, such plodding...gee I wonder why people had Sam Peter as a favorite in that fight.....nah he was what did you call him....oh yeah


morbidly obese


Not "fat", not "out of shape", not "rotund"......morbidly obese.


You're a fucking joke son, 243 and he's "morbidly obese".....fucking JOKE

[Memphis]

Personally, I dont think I can come out of this disappointed. Sure I want Joshua to win, but if he loses, he will lose in the right way and Wlad will have to beat him in the right way. Joshua will make him be aggressive/commanding.

My concern for Joshua is the Wlad left hook. Thats the one he potentially wont see coming. I think the jab, cross and hook of Wlad have all lost a bit of zip but they're still better than anything Molina Breazeale and Martin had to offer. I dont see the jab and right cross causing him too much of a problem unless he's knackered.

[El Kabong]

Personally, I dont think I can come out of this disappointed. Sure I want Joshua to win, but if he loses, he will lose in the right way and Wlad will have to beat him in the right way. Joshua will make him be aggressive/commanding.

My concern for Joshua is the Wlad left hook. Thats the one he potentially wont see coming. I think the jab, cross and hook of Wlad have all lost a bit of zip but they're still better than anything Molina Breazeale and Martin had to offer. I dont see the jab and right cross causing him too much of a problem unless he's knackered.

There you have it....although I would like nothing more than Wlad to win, avenge his loss to Fury, and retire (after beating Wilder) we pretty much agree on everything else.

If AJ wins quick and clean then no doubt about it he'll be the man of the division and I wouldn't be disappointed with that at all.