"intelligent" man WON'T STOP when a COP orders him to STOP---guess what happened???

[Master]

It doesn't surprise me that Gandalf has evaded my question in typical Lefty fashion but let's try it again Gandalf and I would like to ask master and Tito fan man to man come on man up right now and answer this question man two men without any kind of evasion. If a police officer look you squarely in the eye and said if you keep walking I am going to take you down. Stop right there or else stop please stop right there I'm going to take you down. Are you telling me that you would keep walking and tell him f*** you? I can guarantee that neither Master nor Tito friend nor Gandalf would do that in that situation

A police officer must be aware that not everyone will comply for a variety of reasons. They could be deaf, mentally ill, be an addict, may have had a bad experience with police, just having a very bad day. How an officer behaves and reacts is crucial to manage the situation.

[brocktonblockbust]

It doesn't surprise me that Gandalf has evaded my question in typical Lefty fashion but let's try it again Gandalf and I would like to ask master and Tito fan man to man come on man up right now and answer this question man two men without any kind of evasion. If a police officer look you squarely in the eye and said if you keep walking I am going to take you down. Stop right there or else stop please stop right there I'm going to take you down. Are you telling me that you would keep walking and tell him f*** you? I can guarantee that neither Master nor Tito friend nor Gandalf would do that in that situation

A police officer must be aware that not everyone will comply for a variety of reasons. They could be deaf, mentally ill, be an addict, may have had a bad experience with police, just having a very bad day. How an officer behaves and reacts is crucial to manage the situation.

Now that right there is the closest statement that anyone has made here that opposes my view that I can respect. It is true that the person could have been deaf or retarded or something or mentally ill and in that case the policeman has to definitely take that into consideration. However I think after he heard the man cursing him and saying "no way, I didn't do anything wrong , don't bother me no way bro" I think it's pretty clear that point that the man was not mentally ill. Also @TitoFan you cannot just compare jaywalking with getting punched 20 times in the face. That is not the way it went down bro and you know it. You are deliberately skipping a couple of steps in that sequence of events. When he tried to take him down the man vehemently resisted and put up a fight and started flailing his arms back at the officers face. In that case if you get punched in the face a couple of times by someone who you are trying to subdue then I believe you can Strike Back.

[Spicoli]

Ironically enough the only one under criminal investigation is the officer as all charges were dropped against the man. I know California has some screwed up roadways and traffic-pedestrian laws but really, how is this even considered jaywalking. Stopping, yield right of way and crossing strictly from corner to corner seems pretty basic. No traffic signals at all. The jaywalking is simply a default cause to stop and question a 'suspicious' person here. He never identified himself and likewise never asked him to produce identification. And how common is it to radio for back up prior to stopping a jaywalker He might have been calling in a stop but it's not clear. At no time can you hear the guy 'curse' the officer over all of the radio chatter in the car. The cop lost total control of the situation and was also po'd at his Aunt yelling to him from the car and went from 0-60 because a citizen rightfully questioned him on what grounds he was being stopped and pleaded his innocence. This isn't a left or right thing, it's an abuse of power thing. When your own Department is already inferring you were out of line and it's against policy there really is no defense. This kid will get a nice chunk of change at the end of the day.

[brocktonblockbust]

he wasnt thrown to the ground bcuz he questioned why he was being stopped.

He was thrown to the ground because the officer told him to stop 10 or 15 times and he kept walking away. The officer then said IF YOU DONT STOP I WILL TAKE YOU DOWN.

WHAT KIND OF A FOOL AT THAT POINT DOES OTHERWISE. THATS WHY HE GOT THROWN DOWN.

THEN HE HAD THE GALL TO FLAIL AND FIGHT BACK AND PUNCH.

[TitoFan]

Also @TitoFan you cannot just compare jaywalking with getting punched 20 times in the face. That is not the way it went down bro and you know it. You are deliberately skipping a couple of steps in that sequence of events. When he tried to take him down the man vehemently resisted and put up a fight and started flailing his arms back at the officers face. In that case if you get punched in the face a couple of times by someone who you are trying to subdue then I believe you can Strike Back.

I watched the video again. When he went to take him down, the man resisted, but the takedown took a split second. Once the guy was on the ground, the cop proceeded to pummel him. There's no way in that video you saw the guy punching the cop in the face. He had barely been slammed to the ground when the cop started to pummel him.

I get it that you don't like the prototypical hoodlum talking back at cops... I get it. It's a stupid move. But it doesn't excuse a cop, who's supposedly highly trained, to assault a human being in that fashion. Again, even after apprehending a murder suspect after a shootout and a high speed chase, there's no excuse for that kind of pummeling.

You're wrong, and you know it. Of course you won't back down, but it makes no difference.

I hope the cop gets charged, convicted, and jailed for assault and battery. There's gotta be some way to get it through the thick skull of these 'roided assholes that their badge and uniform isn't a licence to abuse citizens. And if he gets made someone's bitch while in prison..... well I guess that's just too bad.

[brocktonblockbust]

Also @TitoFan you cannot just compare jaywalking with getting punched 20 times in the face. That is not the way it went down bro and you know it. You are deliberately skipping a couple of steps in that sequence of events. When he tried to take him down the man vehemently resisted and put up a fight and started flailing his arms back at the officers face. In that case if you get punched in the face a couple of times by someone who you are trying to subdue then I believe you can Strike Back.

I watched the video again. When he went to take him down, the man resisted, but the takedown took a split second. Once the guy was on the ground, the cop proceeded to pummel him. There's no way in that video you saw the guy punching the cop in the face. He had barely been slammed to the ground when the cop started to pummel him.

I get it that you don't like the prototypical hoodlum talking back at cops... I get it. It's a stupid move. But it doesn't excuse a cop, who's supposedly highly trained, to assault a human being in that fashion. Again, even after apprehending a murder suspect after a shootout and a high speed chase, there's no excuse for that kind of pummeling.

You're wrong, and you know it. Of course you won't back down, but it makes no difference.

I hope the cop gets charged, convicted, and jailed for assault and battery. There's gotta be some way to get it through the thick skull of these 'roided assholes that their badge and uniform isn't a licence to abuse citizens. And if he gets made someone's bitch while in prison..... well I guess that's just too bad.

as he took him down, the suspect turned and threw a punch/flailed an arm at the cop's face, or at least he would not be subdued and in wriggling and twisting could have injured the cop. Up til that point you cant say the suspect had cooperated AT ALL and you know it, SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK AS HE WAS BEING TAKEN DOWN HE WOULD SUDDENLY, MAGICALLY MAKE IT EASY FOR THE COP?

[Gandalf]

Brock, you've lost your mind, mate. The poor bloke did nothing wrong and was being harrassed by a man in a uniform. If you were to ask me who the criminal was I would have to say the one who was stalking a member of the public and then proceeded to beat him up. There is no public duty in behaving like that, you are basically at the same level of a street thug yourself. To then waste how much tax payer money in getting a fleet of cars involved and how many officers? My goodness, it's a joke, but not a funny one for the poor chap beaten up like that. To even defend it is lame Brock.

[Master]

Brock lost his mind years ago.

[TitoFan]

Also @TitoFan you cannot just compare jaywalking with getting punched 20 times in the face. That is not the way it went down bro and you know it. You are deliberately skipping a couple of steps in that sequence of events. When he tried to take him down the man vehemently resisted and put up a fight and started flailing his arms back at the officers face. In that case if you get punched in the face a couple of times by someone who you are trying to subdue then I believe you can Strike Back.

I watched the video again. When he went to take him down, the man resisted, but the takedown took a split second. Once the guy was on the ground, the cop proceeded to pummel him. There's no way in that video you saw the guy punching the cop in the face. He had barely been slammed to the ground when the cop started to pummel him.

I get it that you don't like the prototypical hoodlum talking back at cops... I get it. It's a stupid move. But it doesn't excuse a cop, who's supposedly highly trained, to assault a human being in that fashion. Again, even after apprehending a murder suspect after a shootout and a high speed chase, there's no excuse for that kind of pummeling.

You're wrong, and you know it. Of course you won't back down, but it makes no difference.

I hope the cop gets charged, convicted, and jailed for assault and battery. There's gotta be some way to get it through the thick skull of these 'roided assholes that their badge and uniform isn't a licence to abuse citizens. And if he gets made someone's bitch while in prison..... well I guess that's just too bad.

as he took him down, the suspect turned and threw a punch/flailed an arm at the cop's face, or at least he would not be subdued and in wriggling and twisting could have injured the cop. Up til that point you cant say the suspect had cooperated AT ALL and you know it, SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK AS HE WAS BEING TAKEN DOWN HE WOULD SUDDENLY, MAGICALLY MAKE IT EASY FOR THE COP?

As he was being body-slammed into the concrete street, he instinctively did what any self-preserving human being would do. He put out his arms to break his fall in the split second he was being taken down. If you want to pass this off as the guy punching the cop, go right ahead. Only the cop and his mother would back you up on that one. It's ridiculous, Brock. You're defending the indefensible.

Nothing but a stiff prison sentence and a million dollar lawsuit will teach these brain-dead, uniformed assholes to keep their 'roid rage binges to themselves.

Actually... he's lucky that as he was pummeling the guy 20 times in the face, a friend or family member didn't walk up behind him and put one in the back of his head.