UK general election

[El Kabong]

I don't have to repeatedly go to The Thinkery or Brietbart or anywhere else to tell me what I should think. This is a thread about the UK election not an excuse for you to make it about your own personal crusade against communism. I have TODAY posted 21 policy points published today by the Labour Party as it's promise to workers. Also because it is polling day for many in the local elections HERE IN BRITAIN I have asked people about that. You haven't addressed any of it and have had to resort to calling me a whining pussy. I have marched with Class War, Communists in demonstrations because of you have a common goal then you don't go around and vet everybody taking part to make sure you all agree 100% on everything.


That is the whole point. You have no desire to build consensus so in reality you have never once taken part in a debate for the whole history of Saddo. That is the point from which most people start.


Your entire posting history is one big existential howl. Not me, Not Gandalf, Not Bilbo, the king of the whiners my friend is you.

Oh you don't have people tell you what to think, but you assume that I do....why is that? Is it because you don't believe I am capable of forming my own views or is it because you assume that because I use examples which corroborate my stance that my stance is not my own? Or maybe it's because you've neither the capacity nor the balls to debate the actual issues and you'd rather attack me personally, again....I call you a whiny pussy because you ARE a whiny pussy....and hey guess what I formed that idea all on my own reading your claptrap.


Communism is bad full fucking stop.....that you've marched WITH Communists is unsurprising. That you see nothing wrong with Communists is likewise unsurprising. That you are unable or unwilling to actually debate fits with the rest of that narrative. You complain, you offer no solutions, you stand on nothing you stand for nothing, you only stand against. Well here's hoping you and your fucking Communist buddies win out.....I wonder where the peacetime/droughtless famine will hit in the UK? Holomodor, the Great Leap Forward....I guess those were just the "growing pains" of Communism and this time....this time you'll get it right


I've got no desire to build consensus what good is consensus? Groupthink, you want me involved in that? No thank you. What do I get for agreeing with you? You stop bitching for once? I don't believe you're able.


Again, personal attack =/= factual rebuttal.....MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS die under communism FACT. You march alongside the Commies FACT. You are voting for/supporting the mass deaths of your very countrymen by being in favor of Communism FACT. Call me names, but I'm not for murdering my countrymen unlike you

[brocktonblockbust]

How many times Beanz? Just how many times Beanz, does Lyle have to FRY YOUR FAT, JIGGLY BUTT CHEEKS IN SCHMALTZ, b4 u learn? Its getting sad, mate, the way you, like Cotto when he "fought" Canelo, kept getting REEMED UP THE WAZOO.

[brocktonblockbust]

[Beanz]

How many times Beanz? Just how many times Beanz, does Lyle have to FRY YOUR FAT, JIGGLY BUTT CHEEKS IN SCHMALTZ, b4 u learn? Its getting sad, mate, the way you, like Cotto when he "fought" Canelo, kept getting REEMED UP THE WAZOO.

Still nothing to offer then? One could easily draw the conclusion that you are nothing more than a troll with no actual opinions on anything and an investment in nothing more than sowing discord and distracting people from the actual issues affecting them.

[brocktonblockbust]

How many times Beanz? Just how many times Beanz, does Lyle have to FRY YOUR FAT, JIGGLY BUTT CHEEKS IN SCHMALTZ, b4 u learn? Its getting sad, mate, the way you, like Cotto when he "fought" Canelo, kept getting REEMED UP THE WAZOO.

Still nothing to offer then? One could easily draw the conclusion that you are nothing more than a troll with no actual opinions on anything and an investment in nothing more than sowing discord and distracting people from the actual issues affecting them.

Except that you've just described your very own role playing here on this forum. You just cant make this shit up if you tried.

[Gandalf]

Brock you have zero to add to the thread. On that basis maybe it's time for mods to start holding posters who do not add to threads to account. At least Lyle is now semi trying to engage, but you don't and it's all about winding people up. I have read through 3 pages and all you are doing is looking for trouble. Are you bored?

[brocktonblockbust]

Brock you have zero to add to the thread. On that basis maybe it's time for mods to start holding posters who do not add to threads to account. At least Lyle is now semi trying to engage, but you don't and it's all about winding people up. I have read through 3 pages and all you are doing is looking for trouble. Are you bored?

pure fascism right there. I have directly contributed to this thread by discussing Corbyn, May, Labour and other relevant points. You baited me and Lyle into auxilliary stuff.

[Gandalf]

Brock you have zero to add to the thread. On that basis maybe it's time for mods to start holding posters who do not add to threads to account. At least Lyle is now semi trying to engage, but you don't and it's all about winding people up. I have read through 3 pages and all you are doing is looking for trouble. Are you bored?

pure fascism right there. I have directly contributed to this thread by discussing Corbyn, May, Labour and other relevant points. You baited me and Lyle into auxilliary stuff.

Fascism? So, you still have nothing to add about the election.

[El Kabong]

Brock you have zero to add to the thread. On that basis maybe it's time for mods to start holding posters who do not add to threads to account. At least Lyle is now semi trying to engage, but you don't and it's all about winding people up. I have read through 3 pages and all you are doing is looking for trouble. Are you bored?

Semi trying to engage?

Semi?

[brocktonblockbust]

Brock you have zero to add to the thread. On that basis maybe it's time for mods to start holding posters who do not add to threads to account. At least Lyle is now semi trying to engage, but you don't and it's all about winding people up. I have read through 3 pages and all you are doing is looking for trouble. Are you bored?

Semi trying to engage?

Semi?

yep Lyle pretty much just got called a half-ass. WTF FFS. What snideness.

[brocktonblockbust]

Banning unpaid internships is ridiculous. They are UNPAID. YOu are effectively saying someone cannot work for free in order to get some exposure and experience. There Miles...... companies should consider the possibility of work-from-home internship options. The biggest barriers to any unpaid internship are without a doubt (unless you live in the frikkin sticks) rent and transport costs, but many of an intern’s responsibilities could be done from home. Research, website-updating, proof-reading and report-writing need just the internet and a desk, and perhaps one single solitary freaking day at the office.

[Gandalf]

Banning unpaid internships is ridiculous. They are UNPAID. YOu are effectively saying someone cannot work for free in order to get some exposure and experience. There Miles...... companies should consider the possibility of work-from-home internship options. The biggest barriers to any unpaid internship are without a doubt (unless you live in the frikkin sticks) rent and transport costs, but many of an intern’s responsibilities could be done from home. Research, website-updating, proof-reading and report-writing need just the internet and a desk, and perhaps one single solitary freaking day at the office.

Back to the topic of slavery. Unpaid internship is effectively slavery. At least have the decency to pay them something for the time they are giving and throw in a free sandwich for lunch. Talk about a free lunch.

You tell 'em Corbyn. Enough of this neo liberal lunacy. Time to double the wages for the toilet cleaner and half the wages for the executive. If they don't like it they can do what I did. Leave.

[brocktonblockbust]

Banning unpaid internships is ridiculous. They are UNPAID. YOu are effectively saying someone cannot work for free in order to get some exposure and experience. There Miles...... companies should consider the possibility of work-from-home internship options. The biggest barriers to any unpaid internship are without a doubt (unless you live in the frikkin sticks) rent and transport costs, but many of an intern’s responsibilities could be done from home. Research, website-updating, proof-reading and report-writing need just the internet and a desk, and perhaps one single solitary freaking day at the office.

Back to the topic of slavery. Unpaid internship is effectively slavery. At least have the decency to pay them something for the time they are giving and throw in a free sandwich for lunch. Talk about a free lunch.

You tell 'em Corbyn. Enough of this neo liberal lunacy. Time to double the wages for the toilet cleaner and half the wages for the executive. If they don't like it they can do what I did. Leave.

that is obvious, that people should be paid, but one of the issues raised in the OP was AGAINST unpaid internships NOT BCUZ PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAID (which we all agree they should be) but because it would benefit the priviledged: I disagree wiht THAT reason because guess what?.....Balancing a paid job and an unpaid internship is a life lesson. Suck it up. If you're going to take on an internship AND support yourself, then you're going to have to find a paying job, too. And balance them both. Does it suck? You betcha. But it's also a lesson that you're better off learning earlier than later. Hard work (often) pays off.

[Gandalf]

Banning unpaid internships is ridiculous. They are UNPAID. YOu are effectively saying someone cannot work for free in order to get some exposure and experience. There Miles...... companies should consider the possibility of work-from-home internship options. The biggest barriers to any unpaid internship are without a doubt (unless you live in the frikkin sticks) rent and transport costs, but many of an intern’s responsibilities could be done from home. Research, website-updating, proof-reading and report-writing need just the internet and a desk, and perhaps one single solitary freaking day at the office.

Back to the topic of slavery. Unpaid internship is effectively slavery. At least have the decency to pay them something for the time they are giving and throw in a free sandwich for lunch. Talk about a free lunch.

You tell 'em Corbyn. Enough of this neo liberal lunacy. Time to double the wages for the toilet cleaner and half the wages for the executive. If they don't like it they can do what I did. Leave.

that is obvious, that people should be paid, but one of the issues raised in the OP was AGAINST unpaid internships NOT BCUZ PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAID (which we all agree they should be) but because it would benefit the priviledged: I disagree wiht THAT reason because guess what?.....Balancing a paid job and an unpaid internship is a life lesson. Suck it up. If you're going to take on an internship AND support yourself, then you're going to have to find a paying job, too. And balance them both. Does it suck? You betcha. But it's also a lesson that you're better off learning earlier than later. Hard work (often) pays off.

Tell that to the millions either not being paid or not being paid enough to live on. Hard work often isn't enough. I remember working 12 hour days and then every year get told the pay rise was less than inflation because shareholders were more important, that we were not allowed to have a union, that our contract hours were kept to a minimum so they didn't have to pay much on vacation periods, that company pensions were being abolished. Those were some of the reasons I gave up on the UK and by all accounts it has become far more vicious. Zero hours contracts, less job security, harder to form unions, great inequality, just awful. Working hard more often than not does not pay off. If wages go down over a decade you end up working harder just to stay the same or more likely fall behind. Yet the elite have doubled their wealth in the same time. You seem to support this status quo, Trump certainly does in wanting to reduce taxes for the rich.

Corbyn represents the first serious challenge to this nonsense in decades and people have every opportunity to get the wax out of their ears and see sense. The UK under May will be visionless, all they know how to do is tighten the screws. They will destroy the NHS, they are threatening the world with nuclear war, they kneel at the altar of finance. The people exist only to be extracted and used.

[Beanz]

Banning unpaid internships is ridiculous. They are UNPAID. YOu are effectively saying someone cannot work for free in order to get some exposure and experience. There Miles...... companies should consider the possibility of work-from-home internship options. The biggest barriers to any unpaid internship are without a doubt (unless you live in the frikkin sticks) rent and transport costs, but many of an intern’s responsibilities could be done from home. Research, website-updating, proof-reading and report-writing need just the internet and a desk, and perhaps one single solitary freaking day at the office.

Back to the topic of slavery. Unpaid internship is effectively slavery. At least have the decency to pay them something for the time they are giving and throw in a free sandwich for lunch. Talk about a free lunch.

You tell 'em Corbyn. Enough of this neo liberal lunacy. Time to double the wages for the toilet cleaner and half the wages for the executive. If they don't like it they can do what I did. Leave.

that is obvious, that people should be paid, but one of the issues raised in the OP was AGAINST unpaid internships NOT BCUZ PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAID (which we all agree they should be) but because it would benefit the priviledged: I disagree wiht THAT reason because guess what?.....Balancing a paid job and an unpaid internship is a life lesson. Suck it up. If you're going to take on an internship AND support yourself, then you're going to have to find a paying job, too. And balance them both. Does it suck? You betcha. But it's also a lesson that you're better off learning earlier than later. Hard work (often) pays off.

The trouble with internships is that they unfairly favour the rich and privileged. You seem eager despite not being rich yourself to want to carry on the entrenchment of this defunct value system and are mixing it up with aspiration and personall advancement. It is very easy to be an intern at Daddies firm when he gives you an allowance and a range rover and a flat in Mayfair. It is another mater entirely when you have to pay your own rent, have no living parents and have to rely on public transport. You know this but choose to ignore it in order to side with people who would willingly read on you like something distasteful on the pavement. Trump is not your friend and countries should not be run like companies with nepotism at the top.