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    Default Re: Floyd vs Prince Naz

    For me, this question begs another question: how much of Naseem Hamed’s decline was attributable to the fact that he fought way above his natural weight class. I mean, did he ever even once have a reach advantage?

    Maybe its just me, but I don’t pay too much attention to fighters below lightweight. So when I first heard about this matchup, I viewed Hamed as roughly the same size as PBF. Those small guys all look alike. ;-)

    But in reality, PBF has a 4 inch / 8 inch height / reach advantage. He’s just a much bigger guy. As was Barrera, albeit not as much.

    I know of no other fighter who is judged so much by how he fought against larger opponents. I mean, Duran was dominated by Hagler, imo, but all you hear is how held his ground and sneered at a naturally bigger HOFer. The Prince gets similarly schooled by HOFer Barrera...and all we hear about is how he was exposed.

    Maybe that’s his fault. He wanted the big money fights and no one really pays too much attention to bantamweights. Be that as it may, it just seems that this fact is always overlooked.
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    Default Re: Floyd vs Prince Naz

    Naz was small but he had freakish power and wiped out a lot because of that even when he had been hurt later in his career.

    Naz was never the same after his fallout with his trainer Ingle. After that he relied on his power. However Naz was the best featherweight in the division at one time.

    Steve Robinson had height and reach on Naz and in his first fight at the weight he blew him away. That Naz was truly awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manju View Post
    For me, this question begs another question: how much of Naseem Hamed’s decline was attributable to the fact that he fought way above his natural weight class. I mean, did he ever even once have a reach advantage?

    Maybe its just me, but I don’t pay too much attention to fighters below lightweight. So when I first heard about this matchup, I viewed Hamed as roughly the same size as PBF. Those small guys all look alike. ;-)

    But in reality, PBF has a 4 inch / 8 inch height / reach advantage. He’s just a much bigger guy. As was Barrera, albeit not as much.

    I know of no other fighter who is judged so much by how he fought against larger opponents. I mean, Duran was dominated by Hagler, imo, but all you hear is how held his ground and sneered at a naturally bigger HOFer. The Prince gets similarly schooled by HOFer Barrera...and all we hear about is how he was exposed.

    Maybe that’s his fault. He wanted the big money fights and no one really pays too much attention to bantamweights. Be that as it may, it just seems that this fact is always overlooked.
    Wait, he moved up 4 pounds from Super Bantamweight to Featherweight and you think it is all about that? Most all fighters move up at some point or another. Naz was short and stocky at Super Bantamweight too. That's how he got the power from his legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Manju View Post
    For me, this question begs another question: how much of Naseem Hamed’s decline was attributable to the fact that he fought way above his natural weight class. I mean, did he ever even once have a reach advantage?

    Maybe its just me, but I don’t pay too much attention to fighters below lightweight. So when I first heard about this matchup, I viewed Hamed as roughly the same size as PBF. Those small guys all look alike. ;-)

    But in reality, PBF has a 4 inch / 8 inch height / reach advantage. He’s just a much bigger guy. As was Barrera, albeit not as much.

    I know of no other fighter who is judged so much by how he fought against larger opponents. I mean, Duran was dominated by Hagler, imo, but all you hear is how held his ground and sneered at a naturally bigger HOFer. The Prince gets similarly schooled by HOFer Barrera...and all we hear about is how he was exposed.

    Maybe that’s his fault. He wanted the big money fights and no one really pays too much attention to bantamweights. Be that as it may, it just seems that this fact is always overlooked.
    Wait, he moved up 4 pounds from Super Bantamweight to Featherweight and you think it is all about that? Most all fighters move up at some point or another. Naz was short and stocky at Super Bantamweight too. That's how he got the power from his legs.
    Naz had huge legs.
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    I bet you were a proper Naz lover weren't you Master
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    I bet you were a proper Naz lover weren't you Master
    Hated the fucker, so glad when Barrera beat him. Probably appreciated him later.
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    That surprises me. Fair enough.

    I didn't hate him as he made me laugh some of the time but always cheered on his opponent. Yet I felt short changed when he walked away and wanted him back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    That surprises me. Fair enough.

    I didn't hate him as he made me laugh some of the time but always cheered on his opponent. Yet I felt short changed when he walked away and wanted him back.
    I had a similar experience with Naz. Guy made me laugh constantly so I enjoyed him. But it drove me crazy how overrated he was. He was really good don't get me wrong. But there was a reason he was kept away from Marquez. All the physical talent in the world doesn't help you if you are against someone with skills and talent.

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