Golovkin-Canelo OFFICIAL!!!- Sept 16th

[Master]

I agree the fight will not be as hard as Jacob's. I think if GGG did fight Jacobs again, he will not allow him to weigh in as high as he did and would easily beat him.

Canelo made money for as long as he could and I am glad he signed but it was not without a push.

I always refer back to May-Pac. Remember how much money was on the line and they still pissed about for 5 odd years. Like you said this fight is happening at the right time. GGG might have slipped a little which may have increased the younger mans chances. I think Jacobs will be just as difficult if they do rematch. I'm not sure Jacobs will accept a re-hydration clause and how will fans look upon GGG if he starts making these sorts of demands?

Those are reasonable demands which are there for the safety of the fighters to make sure that the fight is fair and based on skill. I do not think it is an unreasonable demand.

[Alpha]

I agree the fight will not be as hard as Jacob's. I think if GGG did fight Jacobs again, he will not allow him to weigh in as high as he did and would easily beat him.

Canelo made money for as long as he could and I am glad he signed but it was not without a push.

I always refer back to May-Pac. Remember how much money was on the line and they still pissed about for 5 odd years. Like you said this fight is happening at the right time. GGG might have slipped a little which may have increased the younger mans chances. I think Jacobs will be just as difficult if they do rematch. I'm not sure Jacobs will accept a re-hydration clause and how will fans look upon GGG if he starts making these sorts of demands?

Those are reasonable demands which are there for the safety of the fighters to make sure that the fight is fair and based on skill. I do not think it is an unreasonable demand.

I'm not disagreeing with you but only the IBF officially has those restrictions. If GGG tried to enforce those requirements on Jacobs for a shot at say the WBA strap I'm not sure he would be able to. Also with Jacobs' style the weight in my opinion was only helpful in helping him to absorb the shots from GGG and possibly made his own shots a little heavier. It was not a pressure style where the weight would definitely play a part.

[Master]

I agree the fight will not be as hard as Jacob's. I think if GGG did fight Jacobs again, he will not allow him to weigh in as high as he did and would easily beat him.

Canelo made money for as long as he could and I am glad he signed but it was not without a push.

I always refer back to May-Pac. Remember how much money was on the line and they still pissed about for 5 odd years. Like you said this fight is happening at the right time. GGG might have slipped a little which may have increased the younger mans chances. I think Jacobs will be just as difficult if they do rematch. I'm not sure Jacobs will accept a re-hydration clause and how will fans look upon GGG if he starts making these sorts of demands?

Those are reasonable demands which are there for the safety of the fighters to make sure that the fight is fair and based on skill. I do not think it is an unreasonable demand.

I'm not disagreeing with you but only the IBF officially has those restrictions. If GGG tried to enforce those requirements on Jacobs for a shot at say the WBA strap I'm not sure he would be able to. Also with Jacobs' style the weight in my opinion was only helpful in helping him to absorb the shots from GGG and possibly made his own shots a little heavier. It was not a pressure style where the weight would definitely play a part.

Absorbing the punches helped Jacobs survive round 5 and made a huge difference for him. It was near cheating not to follow the agreed IBF rules.

[Alpha]

I agree the fight will not be as hard as Jacob's. I think if GGG did fight Jacobs again, he will not allow him to weigh in as high as he did and would easily beat him.

Canelo made money for as long as he could and I am glad he signed but it was not without a push.

I always refer back to May-Pac. Remember how much money was on the line and they still pissed about for 5 odd years. Like you said this fight is happening at the right time. GGG might have slipped a little which may have increased the younger mans chances. I think Jacobs will be just as difficult if they do rematch. I'm not sure Jacobs will accept a re-hydration clause and how will fans look upon GGG if he starts making these sorts of demands?

Those are reasonable demands which are there for the safety of the fighters to make sure that the fight is fair and based on skill. I do not think it is an unreasonable demand.

I'm not disagreeing with you but only the IBF officially has those restrictions. If GGG tried to enforce those requirements on Jacobs for a shot at say the WBA strap I'm not sure he would be able to. Also with Jacobs' style the weight in my opinion was only helpful in helping him to absorb the shots from GGG and possibly made his own shots a little heavier. It was not a pressure style where the weight would definitely play a part.

Absorbing the punches helped Jacobs survive round 5 and made a huge difference for him. It was near cheating not to follow the agreed IBF rules.

But he followed the WBC and WBA rules.

[Master]

I thought WBC and WBA had similar rules? If they do not, they should as the Gatti fight showed the clear abuse of the weight gain can be dangerous.

[Alpha]

I thought WBC and WBA had similar rules? If they do not, they should as the Gatti fight showed the clear abuse of the weight gain can be dangerous.

No only the IBF has a day of the fight weigh in with a 10 pound re-hydration clause. I agree all the sanctioning bodies should follow suit. I wonder if Canelo will bother with the IBF?

[Fenster]

Listened to an Abel Sanchez interview this morning, he explained perfectly why the Jacobs rematch isn't happening - Money.

However good a fight Jacobs gave Golovkin he lost and it did shit numbers. He said Jacobs needs to make a name for himself now, fight Lemiuex, fight another big name, make the money men demand the rematch as the people that fund fights are not currently interested.

You can't argue with that.

Fans don't like it - the divvies will call it a "duck" - but it's the truth. A plain simple fact in boxing is - the bigger the risk the bigger the reward, if that's not the case then the fight is not worth considering.

[Alpha]

Listened to an Abel Sanchez interview this morning, he explained perfectly why the Jacobs rematch isn't happening - Money.

However good a fight Jacobs gave Golovkin he lost and it did shit numbers. He said Jacobs needs to make a name for himself now, fight Lemiuex, fight another big name, make the money men demand the rematch as the people that fund fights are not currently interested.

You can't argue with that.

Fans don't like it - the divvies will call it a "duck" - but it's the truth. A plain simple fact in boxing is - the bigger the risk the bigger the reward, if that's not the case then the fight is not worth considering.

That's how I feel Oscar and Canelo have been approaching GGG up until this point.

[Primo Carnera]

Listened to an Abel Sanchez interview this morning, he explained perfectly why the Jacobs rematch isn't happening - Money.

However good a fight Jacobs gave Golovkin he lost and it did shit numbers. He said Jacobs needs to make a name for himself now, fight Lemiuex, fight another big name, make the money men demand the rematch as the people that fund fights are not currently interested.

You can't argue with that.

Fans don't like it - the divvies will call it a "duck" - but it's the truth. A plain simple fact in boxing is - the bigger the risk the bigger the reward, if that's not the case then the fight is not worth considering.

That's how I feel Oscar and Canelo have been approaching GGG up until this point.

It's not really the same though is it.
1. GGG did fight Jacobs in the first place.
2. Nobody can tell me fighting Khan and Liam Smith are bigger money fights than GGG.
If that's what they did think, they're clearly wrong.

[TitoFan]

Listened to an Abel Sanchez interview this morning, he explained perfectly why the Jacobs rematch isn't happening - Money.

However good a fight Jacobs gave Golovkin he lost and it did shit numbers. He said Jacobs needs to make a name for himself now, fight Lemiuex, fight another big name, make the money men demand the rematch as the people that fund fights are not currently interested.

You can't argue with that.

Fans don't like it - the divvies will call it a "duck" - but it's the truth. A plain simple fact in boxing is - the bigger the risk the bigger the reward, if that's not the case then the fight is not worth considering.

That's how I feel Oscar and Canelo have been approaching GGG up until this point.

Except it isn't (IMO). C'mon, there's no way you can categorize how Team Canelo has been approaching GGG as... "Money."

The money for GGG-Canelo was going to be there from Day One. But for some reason (which we all know), Oscar came up with the cute term... "Marinate."

We also all know that Canelo did his best to lure GGG toward 154, but GGG wouldn't budge. Why should he? Team Canelo talked shitloads about Canelo not being ready for 160.

Yet in that relatively short span of time you mention, Canelo was miraculously somehow and all of a sudden ready to fight Junior at 164.5 (damn those 0.5 divisions).

Finally, after having fought at that weight, and the world seeing that Canelo can fight at MW and above, the veil has been lifted and Team Canelo has no choice but to cash in their chips now. Otherwise, they risk ridicule from their ultra-loyal fan base. (I have to specify from whom because he already gets ridiculed by some of us hardcore boxing fans).

[Ron Swanson]

Listened to an Abel Sanchez interview this morning, he explained perfectly why the Jacobs rematch isn't happening - Money.

However good a fight Jacobs gave Golovkin he lost and it did shit numbers. He said Jacobs needs to make a name for himself now, fight Lemiuex, fight another big name, make the money men demand the rematch as the people that fund fights are not currently interested.

You can't argue with that.

Fans don't like it - the divvies will call it a "duck" - but it's the truth. A plain simple fact in boxing is - the bigger the risk the bigger the reward, if that's not the case then the fight is not worth considering.

One of the saddest posts I have ever read. Jacobs won by many peoples opinions. Not the majority, but many. He deserves a rematch. He's out there calling for a rematch. You can't just point to the numbers because the numbers were effected by the fact most thought it was a gimme fight. Proven by the 8/1 odds.

Nobody sees a gimme anymore. It would absolutely get better numbers for part 2. Do you have the nerve to deny it would get better numbers? Please don't dodge the question, don't change the question. Do you think a rematch would get better/worse/same numbers? If you think, as any sane man would, it would get better numbers then the initial numbers are irrelevant.

[Kirkland Laing]

Listened to an Abel Sanchez interview this morning, he explained perfectly why the Jacobs rematch isn't happening - Money.

However good a fight Jacobs gave Golovkin he lost and it did shit numbers. He said Jacobs needs to make a name for himself now, fight Lemiuex, fight another big name, make the money men demand the rematch as the people that fund fights are not currently interested.

You can't argue with that.

Fans don't like it - the divvies will call it a "duck" - but it's the truth. A plain simple fact in boxing is - the bigger the risk the bigger the reward, if that's not the case then the fight is not worth considering.

One of the saddest posts I have ever read. Jacobs won by many peoples opinions. Not the majority, but many. He deserves a rematch. He's out there calling for a rematch. You can't just point to the numbers because the numbers were effected by the fact most thought it was a gimme fight. Proven by the 8/1 odds.

Nobody sees a gimme anymore. It would absolutely get better numbers for part 2. Do you have the nerve to deny it would get better numbers? Please don't dodge the question, don't change the question. Do you think a rematch would get better/worse/same numbers? If you think, as any sane man would, it would get better numbers then the initial numbers are irrelevant.

It would do very similar numbers. Maybe a bit more, maybe a bit less. Either way it wouldn't be a viable fight to make. HBO aren't buying as many fights as they used to and they're just not going to come up with the scratch again for a rematch. The numbers don't add up to make it a doable proposition. So that's that.

If HBO offered Golovkin a twenty million dollar guarantee tomorrow to rematch Jacobs in his next fight Golovkin would snap their hand off. But instead they're offering him the chance to make that kind of money, more than he's so far earned in his entire career, fighting Alvarez, so that's what he's doing. Whichever fighter offers him the most money for his next fight after Alvarez is the fight he'll take. It's all about the benjamins baby.

[Fenster]

Listened to an Abel Sanchez interview this morning, he explained perfectly why the Jacobs rematch isn't happening - Money.

However good a fight Jacobs gave Golovkin he lost and it did shit numbers. He said Jacobs needs to make a name for himself now, fight Lemiuex, fight another big name, make the money men demand the rematch as the people that fund fights are not currently interested.

You can't argue with that.

Fans don't like it - the divvies will call it a "duck" - but it's the truth. A plain simple fact in boxing is - the bigger the risk the bigger the reward, if that's not the case then the fight is not worth considering.

One of the saddest posts I have ever read. Jacobs won by many peoples opinions. Not the majority, but many. He deserves a rematch. He's out there calling for a rematch. You can't just point to the numbers because the numbers were effected by the fact most thought it was a gimme fight. Proven by the 8/1 odds.

Nobody sees a gimme anymore. It would absolutely get better numbers for part 2. Do you have the nerve to deny it would get better numbers? Please don't dodge the question, don't change the question. Do you think a rematch would get better/worse/same numbers? If you think, as any sane man would, it would get better numbers then the initial numbers are irrelevant.

You asking me or Abel Sanchez?

Yeah the fight will probably do better numbers. Will it do better enough to make it worthwhile for Team Golovkin? That's the question.

Personally I'm not bothered about the rematch, i'd prefer to see Jacobs take on some other top middles, that way he can make a stronger case for the rematch anyway.

Jacobs didn't become a superstar on the back of that fight. He overachieved in the eyes of boxing fans, that's all. A minority think he won. He didn't. Move on...

[Master]

Jacob's v Saunders would be a good match winner gets triple G.