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    Default Re: Floyd haters keep saying he ducked GGG

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    If you base Floyd beating Golovkin on the Jacobs fight - a 6'1 quick middleweight with a reach advantage that fights nothing like Floyd - then equally you have to consider Floyd "losing" to Castilo.

    So based on how easily a 5'7, "slow" lightweight was able to pressure Floyd then a 5'11 middleweight with a longer reach, fantastic jab, bone crunching power and a granite strong bonce would absolutely kill him.

    Yeah.. I wonder why Floyd never attempted winning a middleweight title.
    Jacobs ain't 6ft 1 and GGG is not 5ft 11. I don't care what the "Stats" say, we know they're bollocks.
    Jacobs is about 6 foot and I know that's a lot taller than Floyd, but Floyd makes up for that with his defensive skills , reactions and counter punching.
    GGG is about 5ft 9 I would say. No doubt Floyd wouldn't have felt the power anything like GGG possessed , but I do believe he could avoid that for 12 rounds.
    Regardless of an inch here or there, Jacobs is much bigger than Floyd (height and weight), I don't see how anything can be taken from him in comparison with Floyd. Apart from all the physical/style differences Jacobs had the power to make Golovkin wary of being countered, something little Floyd certainly doesn't have the benefit of.

    Contrary to what some people here believe, Golovkin isn't some thick face first brawler that mindlessly chases bods around the ring all night. He's an absolute master at cutting the ring off and trapping fighters. He works off a constant jab.

    Good luck to Floyd when he's trapped on the ropes, as many a weaker lesser talent frequently does to him, and his unable to wrestle the far bigger stronger man off as he's getting holes blasted all over his arms and torso.

    I suppose maybe he could survive 12 rounds, he certainly ain't winning anything.
    Curious. How many fights did you pick Floyd to lose?
    It does not matter, Floyd is not winning this one. It is the equivalent of saying Floyd could beat a prime Hagler.
    No it is not. Hagler is far better. You keep changing the situation to make yourself appear right. If you had any confidence in your argument you wouldn't need to use intellectual dishonesty.
    I am trying to discribe how absurd it is in many ways as possible that Floyd could not beat GGG.

    I do not think Hagler was far better than GGG.
    Like I've said before, I'm a fan of GGG, but the first MW of any sort of quality that he had to fight , and he struggled. Some (including me I have to say) thought Jacobs won.
    This isn't a criticism of GGG , he still closes the ring down well and he still has awesome power, but it puts a bit of perspective as to the level he is at.
    To be fair, he is 35 now and maybe, just maybe slowly on the slide.
    Put that against Hagler's career and it doesn't stand up to be honest.
    Forget putting it career to career, just watch them fight. Hagler was better and anyone who doesn't see that, because it's quite clear, is either a fanboy or not good at judging talent. GGG is a hell of a fighter. But Hagler is an all time great fighter.
    So there you have it @Master, you are officially a plum!!

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    I thought people would tire of this "small man vs big man" circus after bumblebee Khan got obliterated by the rhino Canelo.

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    Default Re: Floyd haters keep saying he ducked GGG

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    If you base Floyd beating Golovkin on the Jacobs fight - a 6'1 quick middleweight with a reach advantage that fights nothing like Floyd - then equally you have to consider Floyd "losing" to Castilo.

    So based on how easily a 5'7, "slow" lightweight was able to pressure Floyd then a 5'11 middleweight with a longer reach, fantastic jab, bone crunching power and a granite strong bonce would absolutely kill him.

    Yeah.. I wonder why Floyd never attempted winning a middleweight title.
    Jacobs ain't 6ft 1 and GGG is not 5ft 11. I don't care what the "Stats" say, we know they're bollocks.
    Jacobs is about 6 foot and I know that's a lot taller than Floyd, but Floyd makes up for that with his defensive skills , reactions and counter punching.
    GGG is about 5ft 9 I would say. No doubt Floyd wouldn't have felt the power anything like GGG possessed , but I do believe he could avoid that for 12 rounds.
    Regardless of an inch here or there, Jacobs is much bigger than Floyd (height and weight), I don't see how anything can be taken from him in comparison with Floyd. Apart from all the physical/style differences Jacobs had the power to make Golovkin wary of being countered, something little Floyd certainly doesn't have the benefit of.

    Contrary to what some people here believe, Golovkin isn't some thick face first brawler that mindlessly chases bods around the ring all night. He's an absolute master at cutting the ring off and trapping fighters. He works off a constant jab.

    Good luck to Floyd when he's trapped on the ropes, as many a weaker lesser talent frequently does to him, and his unable to wrestle the far bigger stronger man off as he's getting holes blasted all over his arms and torso.

    I suppose maybe he could survive 12 rounds, he certainly ain't winning anything.
    Curious. How many fights did you pick Floyd to lose?
    It does not matter, Floyd is not winning this one. It is the equivalent of saying Floyd could beat a prime Hagler.
    No it is not. Hagler is far better. You keep changing the situation to make yourself appear right. If you had any confidence in your argument you wouldn't need to use intellectual dishonesty.
    I am trying to discribe how absurd it is in many ways as possible that Floyd could not beat GGG.

    I do not think Hagler was far better than GGG.
    Like I've said before, I'm a fan of GGG, but the first MW of any sort of quality that he had to fight , and he struggled. Some (including me I have to say) thought Jacobs won.
    This isn't a criticism of GGG , he still closes the ring down well and he still has awesome power, but it puts a bit of perspective as to the level he is at.
    To be fair, he is 35 now and maybe, just maybe slowly on the slide.
    Put that against Hagler's career and it doesn't stand up to be honest.
    Forget putting it career to career, just watch them fight. Hagler was better and anyone who doesn't see that, because it's quite clear, is either a fanboy or not good at judging talent. GGG is a hell of a fighter. But Hagler is an all time great fighter.
    So there you have it @Master, you are officially a plum!!
    Why because Ron says? Yes because he is the fountain of all knowledge and not just a miserable twat.
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