Kell Brook v Errol Spence Jr - 27/5/17 Sheffield UK

[smashup]

Wonder how this 2nd loss will effect Brooks future, the surgeon who fitted his titanium plate is ringside with Eddie Hearn and is positive the left eye will need the same operation on it.
Could be the end of Brook

[Primo Carnera]

Wonder how this 2nd loss will effect Brooks future, the surgeon who fitted his titanium plate is ringside with Eddie Hearn and is positive the left eye will need the same operation on it.
Could be the end of Brook

He's got one more fight left. He won't need his arms and legs to beat Khan let alone his eyes.
This fight will happen and the way it will be hyped up to make it sound like a relevant fight and a mega fight will be an embarrassment to British Boxing.

[nuggetdotcom]

Wonder how this 2nd loss will effect Brooks future, the surgeon who fitted his titanium plate is ringside with Eddie Hearn and is positive the left eye will need the same operation on it.
Could be the end of Brook

He's got one more fight left. He won't need his arms and legs to beat Khan let alone his eyes.
This fight will happen and the way it will be hyped up to make it sound like a relevant fight and a mega fight will be an embarrassment to British Boxing.

Whole heartedly agree, the only reason Khan was there was to promote his last hurrah, in a way I would like the fight to take place for Kell to bash the fuck out of him, but my ideal would be for Kell to retire and leave the fucker with nowhere to go.

[powerpuncher]

First off I literally had brook winning 2 rounds. Brook had his moments in some rounds but spence was still landing the better shots and doing better at dictating the pace (although I agree that brook threw him off to an extant for sure). I see at most 4 rounds for brook. The one scorecard where it was only a point difference at the time of the stoppage was awful.

Anyways, these people making excuses now. Brook looked like a very good fighter in there. Potentially even a p4p fighter. He fought that fight I assumed he would. He tried to counter with the jab and be defensive. He executed his game plan but just got beat. Brook impressed me by showing he hasn't lost a step. Spence showed that he could overcome that and stop brook. There is no WW in the world that is better than brook IMO. I think brook was pretty easily the best WW until spence came along.

Spence will destroy Thurman. Spence is a lot better plus it's an awful style matchup for Thurman. Porter would just get countered all night. Garcia doesn't throw enough. Pacqiuao is too old and couldn't handle spence. Crawford is easily his biggest challenge around that weight.

[Ron Swanson]

First off I literally had brook winning 2 rounds. Brook had his moments in some rounds but spence was still landing the better shots and doing better at dictating the pace (although I agree that brook threw him off to an extant for sure). I see at most 4 rounds for brook. The one scorecard where it was only a point difference at the time of the stoppage was awful.

Anyways, these people making excuses now. Brook looked like a very good fighter in there. Potentially even a p4p fighter. He fought that fight I assumed he would. He tried to counter with the jab and be defensive. He executed his game plan but just got beat. Brook impressed me by showing he hasn't lost a step. Spence showed that he could overcome that and stop brook. There is no WW in the world that is better than brook IMO. I think brook was pretty easily the best WW until spence came along.

Spence will destroy Thurman. Spence is a lot better plus it's an awful style matchup for Thurman. Porter would just get countered all night. Garcia doesn't throw enough. Pacqiuao is too old and couldn't handle spence. Crawford is easily his biggest challenge around that weight.

I agree with it all except I gave Brook more rounds than you. Thurman doesn't back anyone, anyone, up. Spence will just hunt him down and break him down.

[Memphis]

First off I literally had brook winning 2 rounds. Brook had his moments in some rounds but spence was still landing the better shots and doing better at dictating the pace (although I agree that brook threw him off to an extant for sure). I see at most 4 rounds for brook. The one scorecard where it was only a point difference at the time of the stoppage was awful.

Anyways, these people making excuses now. Brook looked like a very good fighter in there. Potentially even a p4p fighter. He fought that fight I assumed he would. He tried to counter with the jab and be defensive. He executed his game plan but just got beat. Brook impressed me by showing he hasn't lost a step. Spence showed that he could overcome that and stop brook. There is no WW in the world that is better than brook IMO. I think brook was pretty easily the best WW until spence came along.

Spence will destroy Thurman. Spence is a lot better plus it's an awful style matchup for Thurman. Porter would just get countered all night. Garcia doesn't throw enough. Pacqiuao is too old and couldn't handle spence. Crawford is easily his biggest challenge around that weight.

You literally gave Brook 2 rounds and you see at most 4 rounds for Brook all at the same time? Bizarre.

Who's making excuses? Brook, Brooks promoter, and I think anyone else who's commented said the better man won no? Sure there's speculation about weight, the Golovkin affect, should he shouldnt he. But excuses? There are none.

[powerpuncher]

First off I literally had brook winning 2 rounds. Brook had his moments in some rounds but spence was still landing the better shots and doing better at dictating the pace (although I agree that brook threw him off to an extant for sure). I see at most 4 rounds for brook. The one scorecard where it was only a point difference at the time of the stoppage was awful.

Anyways, these people making excuses now. Brook looked like a very good fighter in there. Potentially even a p4p fighter. He fought that fight I assumed he would. He tried to counter with the jab and be defensive. He executed his game plan but just got beat. Brook impressed me by showing he hasn't lost a step. Spence showed that he could overcome that and stop brook. There is no WW in the world that is better than brook IMO. I think brook was pretty easily the best WW until spence came along.

Spence will destroy Thurman. Spence is a lot better plus it's an awful style matchup for Thurman. Porter would just get countered all night. Garcia doesn't throw enough. Pacqiuao is too old and couldn't handle spence. Crawford is easily his biggest challenge around that weight.

You literally gave Brook 2 rounds and you see at most 4 rounds for Brook all at the same time? Bizarre.

Who's making excuses? Brook, Brooks promoter, and I think anyone else who's commented said the better man won no? Sure there's speculation about weight, the Golovkin affect, should he shouldnt he. But excuses? There are none.

I don't see why that's bizarre? Maybe I'm not understanding what you are saying.

I've seen multiple people in this thread talk about brook being hesitant because of his other eye or that going back down in weight hurt him. Brook gave no excuses which was nice. Plain and simple, Spence was the better fighter and proved it. Brook showed he was still the same good fighter he always was and even admitted that Spence was probably the best fighter he had ever faced.

[Ron Swanson]

I apologies I can't do links on this site for some reason but here is a I think Russian version of the fight if someone wants to watch just cut and paste to the browser

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C1PJbFR54PI

And I have to apologize to powerpuncher, I disagreed saying Kell won more than 2 rounds. I seem to have let the U.K. Announcers sway me. Sucks to know I am so easily manipulated. Upon rewatching and only watching the fight Spence was landing the better more damaging punches, and more, all fight. Props to you powerpuncher for seeing it correct on first viewing.

Edit- what do you know, my link worked. Did it the same as always.

[powerpuncher]

I apologies I can't do links on this site for some reason but here is a I think Russian version of the fight if someone wants to watch just cut and paste to the browser

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C1PJbFR54PI

And I have to apologize to powerpuncher, I disagreed saying Kell won more than 2 rounds. I seem to have let the U.K. Announcers sway me. Sucks to know I am so easily manipulated. Upon rewatching and only watching the fight Spence was landing the better more damaging punches, and more, all fight. Props to you powerpuncher for seeing it correct on first viewing.

Edit- what do you know, my link worked. Did it the same as always.

I was actually shocked that the showtime announces seemed super bias for brook. Spence would land some good punches throughout the round and then brook would land a decent shot and the broadcasters would be like "what a shot by brook! He just won the round with that punch!" I understand the fans cheer for their guy but the announcers were awful for this fight and I generally like Bernstein and Paulie.

Thanks for the apology. I had to watch the fight recorded because I had just gotten back from camping, so I was expecting multiple people to see it like I did even though showtime made it seem like it was so close. Obviously I was wrong.

[sanatogen]

Brook seemed up for the fight right up till the end where the eye must have become a major worry.

9th , 10th were the only rounds that were clearly spences imho

[Master]

First off I literally had brook winning 2 rounds. Brook had his moments in some rounds but spence was still landing the better shots and doing better at dictating the pace (although I agree that brook threw him off to an extant for sure). I see at most 4 rounds for brook. The one scorecard where it was only a point difference at the time of the stoppage was awful.

Anyways, these people making excuses now. Brook looked like a very good fighter in there. Potentially even a p4p fighter. He fought that fight I assumed he would. He tried to counter with the jab and be defensive. He executed his game plan but just got beat. Brook impressed me by showing he hasn't lost a step. Spence showed that he could overcome that and stop brook. There is no WW in the world that is better than brook IMO. I think brook was pretty easily the best WW until spence came along.

Spence will destroy Thurman. Spence is a lot better plus it's an awful style matchup for Thurman. Porter would just get countered all night. Garcia doesn't throw enough. Pacqiuao is too old and couldn't handle spence. Crawford is easily his biggest challenge around that weight.

You literally gave Brook 2 rounds and you see at most 4 rounds for Brook all at the same time? Bizarre.

Who's making excuses? Brook, Brooks promoter, and I think anyone else who's commented said the better man won no? Sure there's speculation about weight, the Golovkin affect, should he shouldnt he. But excuses? There are none.

I don't see why that's bizarre? Maybe I'm not understanding what you are saying.

I've seen multiple people in this thread talk about brook being hesitant because of his other eye or that going back down in weight hurt him. Brook gave no excuses which was nice. Plain and simple, Spence was the better fighter and proved it. Brook showed he was still the same good fighter he always was and even admitted that Spence was probably the best fighter he had ever faced.

Brook did say Spence is the best and he is the real deal all the questions about him were answered.

Brook showed heart in the 10th and gave it one last effort but was not good enough. No shame in that loss.

[Hulk]

First off I literally had brook winning 2 rounds. Brook had his moments in some rounds but spence was still landing the better shots and doing better at dictating the pace (although I agree that brook threw him off to an extant for sure). I see at most 4 rounds for brook. The one scorecard where it was only a point difference at the time of the stoppage was awful.Anyways, these people making excuses now. Brook looked like a very good fighter in there. Potentially even a p4p fighter. He fought that fight I assumed he would. He tried to counter with the jab and be defensive. He executed his game plan but just got beat. Brook impressed me by showing he hasn't lost a step. Spence showed that he could overcome that and stop brook. There is no WW in the world that is better than brook IMO. I think brook was pretty easily the best WW until spence came along.Spence will destroy Thurman. Spence is a lot better plus it's an awful style matchup for Thurman. Porter would just get countered all night. Garcia doesn't throw enough. Pacqiuao is too old and couldn't handle spence. Crawford is easily his biggest challenge around that weight.

Yep. It's Crawford vs. Spence within a year for P4P supremacy.

[Hulk]

First off I literally had brook winning 2 rounds. Brook had his moments in some rounds but spence was still landing the better shots and doing better at dictating the pace (although I agree that brook threw him off to an extant for sure). I see at most 4 rounds for brook. The one scorecard where it was only a point difference at the time of the stoppage was awful.Anyways, these people making excuses now. Brook looked like a very good fighter in there. Potentially even a p4p fighter. He fought that fight I assumed he would. He tried to counter with the jab and be defensive. He executed his game plan but just got beat. Brook impressed me by showing he hasn't lost a step. Spence showed that he could overcome that and stop brook. There is no WW in the world that is better than brook IMO. I think brook was pretty easily the best WW until spence came along.Spence will destroy Thurman. Spence is a lot better plus it's an awful style matchup for Thurman. Porter would just get countered all night. Garcia doesn't throw enough. Pacqiuao is too old and couldn't handle spence. Crawford is easily his biggest challenge around that weight.

Yep. It's Crawford vs. Spence within a year for P4P supremacy.

[Memphis]

I think the fight went pretty much as most people expected, I thought Spence might have gotten to him a bit sooner but despite what some dopey cunts out there are saying, Brook's a tough bastard. I think anything other than his eye and he would have ploughed on. You cant really blame a guy for jacking it in with an eye problem when his other one got caved in the previous fight. We want our fighters to be brave, but not stupid.

Actually I take that back. Russian Matt Damon was stupid as fuck and it made for a cracking fight and one of the best stoppages ever. Groves could have been thrown a chair and hit the fucker over the bonce with it, he was not going over!

I thought Groves was bang in trouble early doors but it was deceptive. Groves started to break him down bit by bit but because of Matt Damons poker (vacant) face and metronomic march forward it didn't look like anything Groves did was having an affect. His tight Euro guard started to drop ever so sligtly pretty quikly though.

Some talented boys on the undercard. One (Fowler) should have been DQ'd, came across as a right prick.

[Fenster]

I think the fight went pretty much as most people expected, I thought Spence might have gotten to him a bit sooner but despite what some dopey cunts out there are saying, Brook's a tough bastard. I think anything other than his eye and he would have ploughed on. You cant really blame a guy for jacking it in with an eye problem when his other one got caved in the previous fight. We want our fighters to be brave, but not stupid.

Actually I take that back. Russian Matt Damon was stupid as fuck and it made for a cracking fight and one of the best stoppages ever. Groves could have been thrown a chair and hit the fucker over the bonce with it, he was not going over!

I thought Groves was bang in trouble early doors but it was deceptive. Groves started to break him down bit by bit but because of Matt Damons poker (vacant) face and metronomic march forward it didn't look like anything Groves did was having an affect. His tight Euro guard started to drop ever so sligtly pretty quikly though.

Some talented boys on the undercard. One (Fowler) should have been DQ'd, came across as a right prick.

- reading this I started imagining Shane, Barry and everyone else in team Groves ploughing into Matt just to get him off his feet. Barry running around screaming for Haye - "help him up the steps, quick help him up the steps"