Is Brook a "quitter?"

[TitoFan]

Been away a couple of days and just saw the fight. I'm amazed at how quickly people jump in with the "quitter" label. Brook has proven to be a warrior, and to call someone like that a "quitter" is ignorant. It's the "Roman gladiator" mentality of some. To hell with the guy's health... he took a knee because his eye was damaged and couldn't see... but he's a "quitter" anyway. What B.S.

[Gandalf]

He did quit, but it is very understandable. What I cannot understand is a) why Brook fought Golovkin 2 weights more than his regular weight and b) why he then fought such a dangerous fighter immediately after having his eye bashed in like that? I think these have been 2 very poor decisions that have likely shortened his career. I just scratch my head trying to make sense of it.

[sanatogen]

He did quit, but it is very understandable. What I cannot understand is a) why Brook fought Golovkin 2 weights more than his regular weight and b) why he then fought such a dangerous fighter immediately after having his eye bashed in like that? I think these have been 2 very poor decisions that have likely shortened his career. I just scratch my head trying to make sense of it.

Looking at who's he's fought in recent years and the bouts of inactivity. These might be the clue as to why he went for these big fights.

[J_Undisputed]

I don't think you can call brook a quitter. With an injury like that, you know something is wrong. It can be like unlike anything you felt. (Except for brook, having already experienced it before with GGG). He only would have sustained more permanent damage and probably worse. When you're in a panic like that, even though your body is raging with with adrenaline to deal with the pain, it does nothing for the shortness of breath, and the vertigo you can experience as the swelling in the tissue surrounding your nasal cavities may start to close off your air passages and you start to breath through you mouth (hanging your jaw out there to be broken)

Whether or not the plate contributed to the injury, could have to do with who did the work. Usually the plates that people are thinking of are not what most people think. Its not some call inclusive Phantom of the Opera Shaped plate that has you looking like a mortal kombat/terminator mashup up freakshow under the skin. It more like small strip that is screwed in place bridging the break. Sometimes they may need to graft bone in order to have enough bone to anchor it to and stimulate bone growth with the implant for density. (if anyone had dental implants, its the same principle). There was a guy (Todd Fedoruk) in the NHL who Had implants on both sides after being separately smashed by two different heavyweights in 2 different incidents. He still went on to be an enforcer for a little bit before changing his game. You can see all the work done on him (light x shapes and bicycle chain Shapes) in the xray.



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[erics44]

He did quit, but it is very understandable. What I cannot understand is a) why Brook fought Golovkin 2 weights more than his regular weight and b) why he then fought such a dangerous fighter immediately after having his eye bashed in like that? I think these have been 2 very poor decisions that have likely shortened his career. I just scratch my head trying to make sense of it.

I cant understand it either

do you think it would have happened if brook was with a different promoter? warren maybe?

[Master]

He did quit, but it is very understandable. What I cannot understand is a) why Brook fought Golovkin 2 weights more than his regular weight and b) why he then fought such a dangerous fighter immediately after having his eye bashed in like that? I think these have been 2 very poor decisions that have likely shortened his career. I just scratch my head trying to make sense of it.

I cant understand it either

do you think it would have happened if brook was with a different promoter? warren maybe?

Spence and the sanctioning body would not have allowed Brook to make a voluntary defence. There was no other easy option and another promoter would not have made any difference.

[erics44]

He did quit, but it is very understandable. What I cannot understand is a) why Brook fought Golovkin 2 weights more than his regular weight and b) why he then fought such a dangerous fighter immediately after having his eye bashed in like that? I think these have been 2 very poor decisions that have likely shortened his career. I just scratch my head trying to make sense of it.

I cant understand it either

do you think it would have happened if brook was with a different promoter? warren maybe?

Spence and the sanctioning body would not have allowed Brook to make a voluntary defence. There was no other easy option and another promoter would not have made any difference.

what about the GGG fight, think that would have happened?

do you think warren would have had him drop 2 weight divisions after that?

[Fenster]

Brook was with Warren for years before most of you had apparently ever heard of him. Warren got rid of him, publicly stating he'd never be a champion (Brook dumped him for Eddie).

So no he wouldn't have fought Golovkin as he'd still be in leisure centres defending an international title.

[smashup]

Warren binned Brook because of his drug taking and constantly getting himself in trouble in his personal life, i know this because Brook trains at my brothers mates gym in Fuerterventura over in the Canary Islands.

Brooks a good fighter don't get me wrong but as his career stands at age 31 he has only beaten 2 fighters i consider good which is Jones and Porter.

Add to that 2 massive facial injuries and 2 back to back beatings and you have to wonder if Brook is done now.

Has Hearn really had Brooks best interests at heart or has he cashed in while he could?

[Kirkland Laing]

Brook was with Warren for years before most of you had apparently ever heard of him. Warren got rid of him, publicly stating he'd never be a champion (Brook dumped him for Eddie).

So no he wouldn't have fought Golovkin as he'd still be in leisure centres defending an international title.

To be fair to Warren Brook turned down several big fights Warren offered him including a world title shot. Can't remember who it was going to be against. Brook was off the rails when he was with Warren and maybe only got with the programme a bit when he signed with Hearn. The last year or so with Warren was when Frank was without TV dates so Brook had a good reason for leaving but he had plenty chances previous to that and never took them.

[sanatogen]

Been away a couple of days and just saw the fight. I'm amazed at how quickly people jump in with the "quitter" label. Brook has proven to be a warrior, and to call someone like that a "quitter" is ignorant. It's the "Roman gladiator" mentality of some. To hell with the guy's health... he took a knee because his eye was damaged and couldn't see... but he's a "quitter" anyway. What B.S.

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