Is Brook a "quitter?"

[Fenster]

Brook was with Warren for years before most of you had apparently ever heard of him. Warren got rid of him, publicly stating he'd never be a champion (Brook dumped him for Eddie).

So no he wouldn't have fought Golovkin as he'd still be in leisure centres defending an international title.

[smashup]

Warren binned Brook because of his drug taking and constantly getting himself in trouble in his personal life, i know this because Brook trains at my brothers mates gym in Fuerterventura over in the Canary Islands.

Brooks a good fighter don't get me wrong but as his career stands at age 31 he has only beaten 2 fighters i consider good which is Jones and Porter.

Add to that 2 massive facial injuries and 2 back to back beatings and you have to wonder if Brook is done now.

Has Hearn really had Brooks best interests at heart or has he cashed in while he could?

[El Kabong]

Kell Brook could have been a somebody (or at least bigger than he is)...not sure why he didn't get the bigger fights earlier in his career. I reckon smashie is right and he hurt his own career. That said he hasn't cheated the fans out of anything in his fights. I think he just bit off way too much fighting GGG and obviously a beating like that stays with you for the long haul.

If you get an eye, cheek, or jaw injury and your defense never improves then odds are it'll happen again and again and again.

He never should have fought GGG. I know he pressed hard for a fight vs Khan and maybe that still happens, but damn, that GGG fight put some age on him.

[smashup]

Kell Brook could have been a somebody (or at least bigger than he is)...not sure why he didn't get the bigger fights earlier in his career. I reckon smashie is right and he hurt his own career. That said he hasn't cheated the fans out of anything in his fights. I think he just bit off way too much fighting GGG and obviously a beating like that stays with you for the long haul.

If you get an eye, cheek, or jaw injury and your defense never improves then odds are it'll happen again and again and again.

He never should have fought GGG. I know he pressed hard for a fight vs Khan and maybe that still happens, but damn, that GGG fight put some age on him.

It's no secret at all that the majority of his "ring absence" was down to his constant fuck ups in his personal life, anyone who chooses to believe he had constant and genuine "sporting" injuries is free to do so, there's A LOT i could tell you about Brook and also a very good reason someone tried to cut his leg off with a Machete

I'm not knocking him at all as a fighter but merely stating his record as it stands peaks at a close victory over Porter which many journalists thought he lost.

He's not going down on the History books is he ffs and he will fight Khan simply because it'll kill him knowing that the names on Khans win list currently eclipse his



Khan - Collazo, Judah, Barrera, Mallignaggi, Algieri, Alexander, Maidana........

Brook - Porter

[Fenster]

Smash, I don't think you'll get in trouble for telling stories about Brook mate, they're not secrets, it's printed all over the shop, all over podcasts, twitter, forums.

Brook got his leg cunt off cos he's a bender.

Brook is a snorting machine.

Those strories have been banded about for years, it's certainly not made him or his team shy.

[holmcall]

Smash, I don't think you'll get in trouble for telling stories about Brook mate, they're not secrets, it's printed all over the shop, all over podcasts, twitter, forums.

Brook got his leg cunt off cos he's a bender.

Brook is a snorting machine.

Those strories have been banded about for years, it's certainly not made him or his team shy.

Dare I ask, what's a bender?"

[Beanz]

Smash, I don't think you'll get in trouble for telling stories about Brook mate, they're not secrets, it's printed all over the shop, all over podcasts, twitter, forums.Brook got his leg cunt off cos he's a bender.Brook is a snorting machine.Those strories have been banded about for years, it's certainly not made him or his team shy.

Dare I ask, what's a bender?"

Ha!

[smashup]

Smash, I don't think you'll get in trouble for telling stories about Brook mate, they're not secrets, it's printed all over the shop, all over podcasts, twitter, forums.

Brook got his leg cunt off cos he's a bender.

Brook is a snorting machine.

Those strories have been banded about for years, it's certainly not made him or his team shy.

Dare I ask, what's a bender?"

[Kirkland Laing]

Brook was with Warren for years before most of you had apparently ever heard of him. Warren got rid of him, publicly stating he'd never be a champion (Brook dumped him for Eddie).

So no he wouldn't have fought Golovkin as he'd still be in leisure centres defending an international title.

To be fair to Warren Brook turned down several big fights Warren offered him including a world title shot. Can't remember who it was going to be against. Brook was off the rails when he was with Warren and maybe only got with the programme a bit when he signed with Hearn. The last year or so with Warren was when Frank was without TV dates so Brook had a good reason for leaving but he had plenty chances previous to that and never took them.

[Fenster]

Brook was with Warren for years before most of you had apparently ever heard of him. Warren got rid of him, publicly stating he'd never be a champion (Brook dumped him for Eddie).

So no he wouldn't have fought Golovkin as he'd still be in leisure centres defending an international title.

To be fair to Warren Brook turned down several big fights Warren offered him including a world title shot. Can't remember who it was going to be against. Brook was off the rails when he was with Warren and maybe only got with the programme a bit when he signed with Hearn. The last year or so with Warren was when Frank was without TV dates so Brook had a good reason for leaving but he had plenty chances previous to that and never took them.

To be fair that's Warren's side of the story. Brook's mob claim they were constantly offered false promises which led to them dumping him. Regardless, he was constantly accused of never stepping up (with Frank and Eddie), now he's lost at the highest level his handlers are being accused of overmatching him. Fighter and promoter (whoever it is) can't win either way.

[Master]

Brook was with Warren for years before most of you had apparently ever heard of him. Warren got rid of him, publicly stating he'd never be a champion (Brook dumped him for Eddie).

So no he wouldn't have fought Golovkin as he'd still be in leisure centres defending an international title.

To be fair to Warren Brook turned down several big fights Warren offered him including a world title shot. Can't remember who it was going to be against. Brook was off the rails when he was with Warren and maybe only got with the programme a bit when he signed with Hearn. The last year or so with Warren was when Frank was without TV dates so Brook had a good reason for leaving but he had plenty chances previous to that and never took them.

To be fair that's Warren's side of the story. Brook's mob claim they were constantly offered false promises which led to them dumping him. Regardless, he was constantly accused of never stepping up (with Frank and Eddie), now he's lost at the highest level his handlers are being accused of overmatching him. Fighter and promoter (whoever it is) can't win either way.

Brook and Hearn must be crying all the way to their bank which has millions of pounds of money they can use to dry their eyes.

[erics44]

Brook was with Warren for years before most of you had apparently ever heard of him. Warren got rid of him, publicly stating he'd never be a champion (Brook dumped him for Eddie).

So no he wouldn't have fought Golovkin as he'd still be in leisure centres defending an international title.

To be fair to Warren Brook turned down several big fights Warren offered him including a world title shot. Can't remember who it was going to be against. Brook was off the rails when he was with Warren and maybe only got with the programme a bit when he signed with Hearn. The last year or so with Warren was when Frank was without TV dates so Brook had a good reason for leaving but he had plenty chances previous to that and never took them.

To be fair that's Warren's side of the story. Brook's mob claim they were constantly offered false promises which led to them dumping him. Regardless, he was constantly accused of never stepping up (with Frank and Eddie), now he's lost at the highest level his handlers are being accused of overmatching him. Fighter and promoter (whoever it is) can't win either way.

i hear what you are saying, he doesn't step up its brooks fault, he steps up and loses and its his promoters fault, but I think theres more too it than that

when he wasn't stepping up he was a novice who hadn't made any money

during his time with hearn he had been built into a genuine world champion, ok since winning the title he hadn't really done anything but he was still a name and could have filled bramall lane before the golovkin fight against a lesser opponent than spence or golovkin

So he was in a fantastic position, could have made money and continued his career in a number of ways, yet they chose to move up 2 divisions and fight a beast

[Kirkland Laing]

Brook was with Warren for years before most of you had apparently ever heard of him. Warren got rid of him, publicly stating he'd never be a champion (Brook dumped him for Eddie).

So no he wouldn't have fought Golovkin as he'd still be in leisure centres defending an international title.

To be fair to Warren Brook turned down several big fights Warren offered him including a world title shot. Can't remember who it was going to be against. Brook was off the rails when he was with Warren and maybe only got with the programme a bit when he signed with Hearn. The last year or so with Warren was when Frank was without TV dates so Brook had a good reason for leaving but he had plenty chances previous to that and never took them.

To be fair that's Warren's side of the story. Brook's mob claim they were constantly offered false promises which led to them dumping him. Regardless, he was constantly accused of never stepping up (with Frank and Eddie), now he's lost at the highest level his handlers are being accused of overmatching him. Fighter and promoter (whoever it is) can't win either way.

At one point Warren was publicising the offers he was making to Brook in the papers while waiting for an answer from Team Brook (his dad was calling the shots at this point) and I'm sure there was a bona fide world title offer made to Brook that was in the papers at the time.

[imp]

I think Brook will never be able to recover from this.

Some of what chris Eubank SNR said actually made sense in a warrior code type of way..lol

https://youtu.be/xnw1_ZXrSi4

[holmcall]

Tor Hammer was a quitter. Freitas against Chico was a quitter. Duran against SR was a quitter. Even Cotto against Margo was a quitter, But the difference between Hammer quitting and Cotto quitting is all the difference you need to understand that quitting can mean different things depending on the context.

Brook did not quit. he was beaten into submission and took his knee to save is eyes.Maybe in a dictionary sense he qui, but certain not in a boxing sense.

IMHO