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    Default Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement

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    'Trump pulls out of Paris Accord, stocks rise. Why isn't the end of civilization priced into the market? '-Scott Adams

    Paris Accord to cost U.S. 1.1 million industrial jobs & cost every U.S. family an extra 20% per yr on electric bill.
    Why is the economic cost the only one under consideration? If you willfully ignore other factors - factors that have the potential to be even more costly, economically speaking - then you truly fail to make an objective, informed decision.
    We have moved well into environmental protection. It has no teeth and China doesn't have to do anything for a decade or more and they have overtaken us in emissions. The fact that this would cost us three trillion dollars is unnacptable. We are 20 trillion in debt. We just need to look at the bottom line. Trump is fulfilling a campaign promise that the people voted him in for. We would also have to give India billions of dollars in foreign aid as that's what they wanted prior to agreeing to sign. Many countries won't follow the rules as there is no inspections or penalties for not following the agreement. It really was just a feel good photo op and a waste of money putting a bunch of dignitaries in fancy hotels as they hammered out this useless deal.
    Stop making excuses, Walrus. If you really want a decent world for tomorrow then things have to change. Maybe the air is good where you are, but where I live people have to wear masks just to go outside. Microscopic particles get lodged in the lungs and cause asthma, lung disease and cancer. That isn't even mentioning global warming. The least we can do is keep the air clean and keep the planet inhabitable. The burning of coal and use of petrol is done simply because a few entities make a lot of money and want to maintain the existing order. There is plenty of energy out there and it can be clean and not particularly expensive as seen in India where solar energy is at record low prices due to investment. Trump is ignorant and/or vested in the status quo. Obviously he doesn't care as him and his closest are not going to be around fracking, high pollution areas or low level islands. I guess that is why they have all those nuclear bunkers all prepared and none of us are getting in. They risk it all and know they have an escape route. Nobody else does.

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    Default Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
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    'Trump pulls out of Paris Accord, stocks rise. Why isn't the end of civilization priced into the market? '-Scott Adams

    Paris Accord to cost U.S. 1.1 million industrial jobs & cost every U.S. family an extra 20% per yr on electric bill.
    Why is the economic cost the only one under consideration? If you willfully ignore other factors - factors that have the potential to be even more costly, economically speaking - then you truly fail to make an objective, informed decision.
    We have moved well into environmental protection. It has no teeth and China doesn't have to do anything for a decade or more and they have overtaken us in emissions. The fact that this would cost us three trillion dollars is unnacptable. We are 20 trillion in debt. We just need to look at the bottom line. Trump is fulfilling a campaign promise that the people voted him in for. We would also have to give India billions of dollars in foreign aid as that's what they wanted prior to agreeing to sign. Many countries won't follow the rules as there is no inspections or penalties for not following the agreement. It really was just a feel good photo op and a waste of money putting a bunch of dignitaries in fancy hotels as they hammered out this useless deal.
    Stop making excuses, Walrus. If you really want a decent world for tomorrow then things have to change. Maybe the air is good where you are, but where I live people have to wear masks just to go outside. Microscopic particles get lodged in the lungs and cause asthma, lung disease and cancer. That isn't even mentioning global warming. The least we can do is keep the air clean and keep the planet inhabitable. The burning of coal and use of petrol is done simply because a few entities make a lot of money and want to maintain the existing order. There is plenty of energy out there and it can be clean and not particularly expensive as seen in India where solar energy is at record low prices due to investment. Trump is ignorant and/or vested in the status quo. Obviously he doesn't care as him and his closest are not going to be around fracking, high pollution areas or low level islands. I guess that is why they have all those nuclear bunkers all prepared and none of us are getting in. They risk it all and know they have an escape route. Nobody else does.
    The whole Paris deal was based on reducing the temperature two tenths of one degree. The whole thing was a side show. I'm stocked up in my mansion with a safe room and a bunker so I'm good no matter what

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    Default Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement

    Just when I thought Trump could not get any dumber he then goes and does this.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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