One thing that cannot be argued against is that Ali and Tyson did more for interest in the heavyweight boxing division in their respective eras than any other HW in history.
 |
|
|
|
Thanks: 1
Likes: 4
Dislikes: 0
Old Guard
Array
Re: Tyson on BBC
One thing that cannot be argued against is that Ali and Tyson did more for interest in the heavyweight boxing division in their respective eras than any other HW in history.
Re: Tyson on BBC
For you maybeOriginally Posted by TitoFan
Old Guard
Array
Re: Tyson on BBC
For you maybe
Ok, so you're just gonna disagree... or do you have a counter argument.
Re: Tyson on BBC
Ummm, I was going to say exactly what I said and leave you to loving those two fighters which is of course your right to do. Not everyone likes the same thing and that's ok.For you maybe
Ok, so you're just gonna disagree... or do you have a counter argument.
I think there has never been a bigger hype job than Muhammad Ali, was he good? Yes. Was he great? Yes. Was he the best ever of All-Time? NO. His style went from exciting and brash as a youngster to his mouth being the biggest part of his game and as a boxing fan, I'm not really all that keen on that and that's MY opinion and people may not agree with it, but that's fine they can like what they like. If you like out of the ring stuff, then Ali is your guy....I like in the ring stuff so Ali is NOT my guy and because he always said "I'm the greatest! I'm the greatest!" well saying it is fine and dandy but it doesn't make it so.
Mike Tyson was a throwback and I enjoyed his career as much as anyone else, he had a media storm around him that was huge as well. My only lament of Tyson is that his career seemed sandwiched between the 70's guys and the 90's guys and if he had a fair crack at either group during his prime, then WOW that would have been very special. Not diminishing what he did at all, but I think waiting for Holyfield to be a real heavyweight and plowing through some older guys gave Tyson a chance to take his eye off the prize.....plus the style he used had it's flaws, AGE being a big factor in those flaws. I enjoyed Tyson, I think he was as over world wide as any other great before him but part of what I respect about Tyson so much is that he really and still to this day respects those who came before him. It's like Jimi Hendrix guys would tell him he's the greatest and he'd shy away from that and show some humility which when you're THAT talented, that's big time respect in my book.
So basically as we all have known I'm not a huge Ali fan, Tyson was great but I wish he would have gotten his big time matchups in his prime (as I am certain he wishes as well). Tyson vs Lewis happened waaaaaaaaay late, Tyson vs Holyfield happened late, Tyson vs Foreman and Tyson vs Bowe and Tyson vs Morrison NEVER happened I think all of those would have been brilliant fights which the boxing fans would have loved.
Super Moderator
Array
Re: Tyson on BBC
Respect you views but Ali proved he was the greatest and you can not get better than beating Liston, Frazier and Foreman. No other great heavyweight has a better record.
I would add Joe Louis was huge during the political upheaval that was going on during his reign and Dempsey was the champion at the height of boxing. So they were huge too.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
Old Guard
Array
Re: Tyson on BBC
Ummm, I was going to say exactly what I said and leave you to loving those two fighters which is of course your right to do. Not everyone likes the same thing and that's ok.For you maybe
Ok, so you're just gonna disagree... or do you have a counter argument.
I think there has never been a bigger hype job than Muhammad Ali, was he good? Yes. Was he great? Yes. Was he the best ever of All-Time? NO. His style went from exciting and brash as a youngster to his mouth being the biggest part of his game and as a boxing fan, I'm not really all that keen on that and that's MY opinion and people may not agree with it, but that's fine they can like what they like. If you like out of the ring stuff, then Ali is your guy....I like in the ring stuff so Ali is NOT my guy and because he always said "I'm the greatest! I'm the greatest!" well saying it is fine and dandy but it doesn't make it so.
Mike Tyson was a throwback and I enjoyed his career as much as anyone else, he had a media storm around him that was huge as well. My only lament of Tyson is that his career seemed sandwiched between the 70's guys and the 90's guys and if he had a fair crack at either group during his prime, then WOW that would have been very special. Not diminishing what he did at all, but I think waiting for Holyfield to be a real heavyweight and plowing through some older guys gave Tyson a chance to take his eye off the prize.....plus the style he used had it's flaws, AGE being a big factor in those flaws. I enjoyed Tyson, I think he was as over world wide as any other great before him but part of what I respect about Tyson so much is that he really and still to this day respects those who came before him. It's like Jimi Hendrix guys would tell him he's the greatest and he'd shy away from that and show some humility which when you're THAT talented, that's big time respect in my book.
So basically as we all have known I'm not a huge Ali fan, Tyson was great but I wish he would have gotten his big time matchups in his prime (as I am certain he wishes as well). Tyson vs Lewis happened waaaaaaaaay late, Tyson vs Holyfield happened late, Tyson vs Foreman and Tyson vs Bowe and Tyson vs Morrison NEVER happened I think all of those would have been brilliant fights which the boxing fans would have loved.
All of that..... and you may have overlooked the essence of my post:
"......Ali and Tyson did more for interest in the heavyweight boxing division in their respective eras than any other HW in history....."
Does any of that say I think they were the best?
That's what I thought.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks