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    Default Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Miami Beach is one of the nation's cities most vulnerable to climate change — and its leaders are doing something about it. The city, a national leader in addressing climate, has begun to make improvements aimed at protecting residents from rising sea levels.
    In South Florida, the rate of sea-level rise has tripled over the last decade, according to a new study from the University of Miami.

    [...]



    Over the last decade, flooding during high tide in this and other neighborhoods along Miami Beach's western edge has become a regular occurrence. The University of Miami study confirms that the main reason for the increased flood events is sea-level rise. While some elected officials, including Florida's Republican Gov. Rick Scott, aren't ready to acknowledge the threat posed by climate change, here in Miami Beach, it was an issue that helped get Levine elected. "I think I did a campaign commercial in a kayak," he says.

    [...]

    To combat flooding, Miami Beach has launched a $400 million project that's begun installing as many as 80 pump stations throughout the city. In addition, more roads on the island's low-lying western edge will be rebuilt higher..............................


    http://www.npr.org/2016/05/10/476071...ical-willpower




    North Carolina did one better than South Florida.
    They up and outlawed climate change.









    Now..... it's illegal.

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    Dear Kirkland,



    Miami is a city which is located on limestone (which erodes very quickly geologically speaking) and parts are located on both man-made and natural barrier islands (which are constantly moving)......sooooooo



    I'm not really all that shocked or concerned


    Thanks for being so worried.



    Your friend,


    El Kabong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    A town of just about 2,000 people vs 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025





    Geez what a hard choice to make



    And again....the agreement would have "no discernible effect on global temperatures"....and you are never going to address that part are you? That "no discernible effect on global temperatures" part....you're just going to never talk about that and just hope it goes away.

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    Default Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    A town of just about 2,000 people vs 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025





    Geez what a hard choice to make



    And again....the agreement would have "no discernible effect on global temperatures"....and you are never going to address that part are you? That "no discernible effect on global temperatures" part....you're just going to never talk about that and just hope it goes away.
    Lol the huffington post what a fair and balanced news outlet

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    A town of just about 2,000 people vs 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025





    Geez what a hard choice to make



    And again....the agreement would have "no discernible effect on global temperatures"....and you are never going to address that part are you? That "no discernible effect on global temperatures" part....you're just going to never talk about that and just hope it goes away.
    Is it all really just about temperature? Maybe it's okay in your bubble, but out there in big cities across the world people are actually suffocating so that negligent corporations can carry on polluting and making a buck at everyone's expense. This is where the rich should cough up (pun intended) as they are making money from suffering. There is a very nice beach area out here, but it is made horrible by nearby heavy industry. I think there comes a point where you say "What are we as a society about? Making money for the few and making the rest suffer, or let's just have a little bit of moderation?" It's not such a lefty, radical suggestion to make.

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    Default Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement

    http://resistancereport.com/politics...blicans-paris/


    Here’s how much Exxon paid Republicans who urged Trump to ditch Paris climate deal

    Senator John Barrasso (R-Wyoming): $728,766

    Senator Roy Blunt (R-Missouri):
    $1,143,574
    Senator John Boozman (R-Arkansas): $281,352
    Senator Thad Cochran (R-Mississippi): $462,890
    Senator John Cornyn (R-Texas): $3,031,956

    Senator Mike Crapo (R-Idaho):
    $440,937
    Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas): $2,484,520
    Senator Mike Enzi (R-Wyoming): $513,733
    Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah): $772,179
    Senator Mike Lee (R-Utah): $281,620
    Senator Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky): $1,975,245
    Senator Rand Paul (R-Kentucky): $286,465
    Senator David Perdue (R-Georgia): $184,250
    Senator Jim Risch (R-Idaho): $209,900
    Senator Pat Roberts (R-Kansas): $817,150
    Senator Mike Rounds (R-South Dakota): $204,900
    Senator Tim Scott (R-South Carolina): $523,276
    Senator Richard Shelby (R-Alabama): $532,846
    Senator Luther Strange (R-Alabama): (NO DATA AVAILABLE)
    Senator Thom Tillis (R-North Carolina): $263,400

    Senator Roger Wicker (R-Mississippi):
    $686,876
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    A town of just about 2,000 people vs 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025





    Geez what a hard choice to make



    And again....the agreement would have "no discernible effect on global temperatures"....and you are never going to address that part are you? That "no discernible effect on global temperatures" part....you're just going to never talk about that and just hope it goes away.
    Is it all really just about temperature? Maybe it's okay in your bubble, but out there in big cities across the world people are actually suffocating so that negligent corporations can carry on polluting and making a buck at everyone's expense. This is where the rich should cough up (pun intended) as they are making money from suffering. There is a very nice beach area out here, but it is made horrible by nearby heavy industry. I think there comes a point where you say "What are we as a society about? Making money for the few and making the rest suffer, or let's just have a little bit of moderation?" It's not such a lefty, radical suggestion to make.
    When people say "Climate Change" they mean temperature right until you make that a moot point and then it's goal post moving time.


    What cities? Where? Do list them off please.



    Beanz your tattling on ExxonMobil is noted BUT the Paris Accords were never passed through Congress (thanks Obama) and therefore it was always President Trump's call alone. Also they urged Trump to leave? Dude read that Accord, see the terms and conditions and tell me not only are they 100% good for the climate they are 100% good for the economy AND other nations w were following suit in the exact same manner. Nations told members of the Paris Accord "Fuck you, pay me" but naaash man everything is equal.
    Last edited by El Kabong; 06-14-2017 at 01:43 AM.

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    Default Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement

    Rather than having to type out all the counter facts that dismiss Trump's claims regarding job and economy losses to be caused by the Paris Accord, I'll just post this here.


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7769826.html



    Never mind whether or not one believes in climate change. That's a non-winnable argument. The point here is that Trump, like every other politician before him (yes... Trump is turning into quite the politician), uses numbers at his convenience. Use some, ignore others. Elementary, my dear Watson. Trumpet (no pun intended) the jobs lost in coal..... ignore the jobs NOW to be lost in the emerging clean energy industries. It's all a precarious balance. One FACT that screams out louder than any others, is that dozens of industry CEOs urged Trump NOT to withdraw from the agreement.

    But again... the counterarguments about America first... nobody else is doing their share... blah, blah, blah.... will continue to rain down. Never mind that a strong US President would've reassured the world that America isn't abandoning its efforts to protect the environment, even if at the same time expressing concerns about other countries' roles in doing the same. Trump just takes the ball and goes home.... game over.

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    Default Re: Trump withdraws from the 2015 Paris Climate agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    A town of just about 2,000 people vs 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025





    Geez what a hard choice to make



    And again....the agreement would have "no discernible effect on global temperatures"....and you are never going to address that part are you? That "no discernible effect on global temperatures" part....you're just going to never talk about that and just hope it goes away.
    Is it all really just about temperature? Maybe it's okay in your bubble, but out there in big cities across the world people are actually suffocating so that negligent corporations can carry on polluting and making a buck at everyone's expense. This is where the rich should cough up (pun intended) as they are making money from suffering. There is a very nice beach area out here, but it is made horrible by nearby heavy industry. I think there comes a point where you say "What are we as a society about? Making money for the few and making the rest suffer, or let's just have a little bit of moderation?" It's not such a lefty, radical suggestion to make.
    When people say "Climate Change" they mean temperature right until you make that a moot point and then it's goal post moving time.


    What cities? Where? Do list them off please.



    Beanz your tattling on ExxonMobil is noted BUT the Paris Accords were never passed through Congress (thanks Obama) and therefore it was always President Trump's call alone. Also they urged Trump to leave? Dude read that Accord, see the terms and conditions and tell me not only are they 100% good for the climate they are 100% good for the economy AND other nations w were following suit in the exact same manner. Nations told members of the Paris Accord "Fuck you, pay me" but naaash man everything is equal.
    You should try visiting Pohang where the Posco corporation belches out pollution on a daily basis. Pollution that causes cancer, asthma, and immune disorders. I would suggest any area where there is largescale manufacturing or heavy metal production or coal burning. Go to Hong Kong and see how it looks, go to Seoul, go to any major city these days. Humans are living like rats in cages and not only are we putting them through that, but we are suffocating them because we refuse to get real on very serious problems.

    Your global warming denial is alarming. Why is your country so strange? Half the country thinks man walked with dinosaurs, a sizeable minority do not believe that climate change is real, and many of you are in denial about what your country does around the world. It's weird you know. Sometimes you need to look beyond the bubble to see how strange it looks. It's not just you guys, the Brits just voted the Tories back in again. It's all very strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    A town of just about 2,000 people vs 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025





    Geez what a hard choice to make



    And again....the agreement would have "no discernible effect on global temperatures"....and you are never going to address that part are you? That "no discernible effect on global temperatures" part....you're just going to never talk about that and just hope it goes away.
    What about the other thousands of miles of US coastline you fucking idiot? And what 2.7 million jobs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    What about the other thousands of miles of US coastline you fucking idiot? And what 2.7 million jobs?
    You mean the thousands of miles not located right next to the ever changing Mississippi delta? What about it?


    Thanks for calling me an idiot.


    The estimated jobs lost had the United States stayed in the Paris Accords....thought you had been paying attention to that, but whatever, I understand. Anything Trump does = WRONG and anything YOU say = right. I'll agree with you, only if you want me to do so Kirkland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    What about the other thousands of miles of US coastline you fucking idiot? And what 2.7 million jobs?
    You mean the thousands of miles not located right next to the ever changing Mississippi delta? What about it?


    Thanks for calling me an idiot.


    The estimated jobs lost had the United States stayed in the Paris Accords....thought you had been paying attention to that, but whatever, I understand. Anything Trump does = WRONG and anything YOU say = right. I'll agree with you, only if you want me to do so Kirkland.
    Just because Donald Trump says something doesn't make it true. There are no millions of projected job losses if American stays in the Paris agreement. Quite the opposite. Clean energy means huge amounts of new well paying jobs. Solar energy already employs nearly three times as many Americans as are employed in the US oil and gas industries.

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