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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    Exactly, dude doing the interview almost immediately had a lump in his throat when he suggested Loma was number one. Who e beat....who e beat. Fucking 'Journalist'
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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Kovalev fans will be saying he hurt his shoulder next like Pac man.

    Just accept the greater skillset on this occasion.

    Kovalev fouled by hitting on the back of the head and that is a far more dangerous situation.

    I hope they fight again.

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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    No one wants to see an immediate rematch.

    Kov needs to earn a shot and the best way would be to beat Adonis.
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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    I wanted Ward beaten to a pulp as much as anybody. But twice is enough for me. Kovalev had all the chances in the world to reverse the results of the first fight. As someone said earlier.... you feel you're getting hit low and the ref does nothing about it? Retaliate! You know Ward's gonna wrestle and get shots off inside? Maul back. It's not like Ward is the bigger man. I've seen enough. On to greener pastures. Unfortunately, the chances of Ward now retiring undefeated have taken a quantum step forward. He can go back to relative inactivity.... pick and choose a few more opponents.... and cash in his chips. Kov was my main hope and it's vanished.

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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    Is there anyone here with the stones to say if Ward doesn't land that last shot low Segey would win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Is there anyone here with the stones to say if Ward doesn't land that last shot low Segey would win?
    No but the ref should see it and call it. Also it denied a legitimate ending for Ward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Is there anyone here with the stones to say if Ward doesn't land that last shot low Segey would win?
    Why would anyone need to? Kovolev looked like he was done so just let a blatant shot to the sack slide? To be honest Im not surprised by your fucked up logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Is there anyone here with the stones to say if Ward doesn't land that last shot low Segey would win?
    No but the ref should see it and call it. Also it denied a legitimate ending for Ward.
    I agree completely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Is there anyone here with the stones to say if Ward doesn't land that last shot low Segey would win?
    Why would anyone need to? Kovolev looked like he was done so just let a blatant shot to the sack slide? To be honest Im not surprised by your fucked up logic.
    Ah, personal attack and putting words in my mouth while not answering the question. You know you expose yourself when you use that type of argument right?

    To your first question. Because it is absurd to boil an entire fight down to a low blow when the low blow didn't determine the fight. To your second, I have never said to let the low blow slide. But I appreciate your attempt to obfuscate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Is there anyone here with the stones to say if Ward doesn't land that last shot low Segey would win?
    Why would anyone need to? Kovolev looked like he was done so just let a blatant shot to the sack slide? To be honest Im not surprised by your fucked up logic.
    Ah, personal attack and putting words in my mouth while not answering the question. You know you expose yourself when you use that type of argument right?

    To your first question. Because it is absurd to boil an entire fight down to a low blow when the low blow didn't determine the fight. To your second, I have never said to let the low blow slide. But I appreciate your attempted to obfuscate
    OK, I thought it was pretty clear that I'd answered. Not in the way you wanted I'll give you that, but answer nonetheless I did.

    Anyhoo. Lets make this crystal. I've clearly construed
    Is there anyone here with the stones to say if Ward doesn't land that last shot low Segey would win?
    as
    If you think Kovalev could have come back you're an idiot so the low blow didnt actually matter
    So I apologise for that.

    What did you mean? Whats the point in this comment?
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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    Not a conclusive ending, which is a shame. It was definitely low blows too, and the referee jumped in much to early.

    Having said that, Ward wasn't rusty this time and he knew what to expect from Kovalevs power. I think Andre worked Kovalev out and Sergei couldn't do anything with him at all. He was getting frustrated, which makes you tired and he was ready to be taken out by Ward at the time of the stoppage.

    It looked to me a little bit like Kovalev was looking for a way out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Is there anyone here with the stones to say if Ward doesn't land that last shot low Segey would win?
    Why would anyone need to? Kovolev looked like he was done so just let a blatant shot to the sack slide? To be honest Im not surprised by your fucked up logic.
    Ah, personal attack and putting words in my mouth while not answering the question. You know you expose yourself when you use that type of argument right?

    To your first question. Because it is absurd to boil an entire fight down to a low blow when the low blow didn't determine the fight. To your second, I have never said to let the low blow slide. But I appreciate your attempted to obfuscate
    OK, I thought it was pretty clear that I'd answered. Not in the way you wanted I'll give you that, but answer nonetheless I did.

    Anyhoo. Lets make this crystal. I've clearly construed
    Is there anyone here with the stones to say if Ward doesn't land that last shot low Segey would win?
    as
    If you think Kovalev could have come back you're an idiot so the low blow didnt actually matter
    So I apologise for that.

    What did you mean? Whats the point in this comment?
    The point is that many things happened in this fight and the whole of the fight should be considered. But some want to ignore the whole of the fight for one detail that did not determine the winner.

    It's like talking about Morales vs Pacquiao I and only discussing Pacquiao's wrong socks.(if that was the bad socks fight)

    But more than that there is a clear trend in this sport where it's people trying to tear down a fight or fighter vs those that think they deserve credit. And talking about the low blow ad nauseam is clearly to tear down the winner. It is not to let people know there was a low blow, otherwise one video would be enough. One comment. But it's again and again and again. It's not even about the low blow, it's "Andre can get no credit. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. Look. No credit".(not pointing a finger at anyone specific) And it stands in the way of actually discussing the fight.

    I want to hear what makes Kovalev's jab so good. Where his right went? How Ward managed to make the hook such a part of this fight? On and on, all the aspects. Not one repeated until the thread dies.
    Last edited by Ron Swanson; 06-21-2017 at 07:15 AM.

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    Default Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    ...and Dwyer was part of Ward's legal team.

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