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    Default Re: Rigo fooled Lomas people into saying his name

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Seems like Rigo's team are the ones having their bluff called tbh



    "Egis Klimas does not fight in the ring, Egis Klimas is not making a fight, Egis Klimas has promoters who are making a fight. Rigondeaux and his team knows Top Rank's number. If Top Rank will come to me and say Rigondeaux is ready to fight then I will approve that fight together with Lomachenko."
    The highly regarded Ukrainian is scheduled to fight in August but is looking for a suitable opponent.
    "If they're going to come, Top Rank, and they're going to say,'they want to fight' and make a deal with Top Rank, Top Rank will come back to us and we will approve the fight. I don't have any problems," said Klimas, who reiterated - "I don't go and fight and train, I don't make the fight That's what we have promoters for but if they want to come in and fight at 130 - we have no problem. We will be very happy.
    "If they make the August date, we're very happy to fight Rigondeaux."

    http://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenk...ndeaux--117909
    Call Top Rank, call Top Rank. We know Bob wants no part of Rigo. Interesting that now Klimas doesn't make fights. A couple days ago Klimas said come to 130 and they can do it. Rigo said yes and now Klimas has no choice in the matter. Dude straight up changed his story and you want to believe both stories that contradict each other. Rigo's story has always been "let's fight"

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    Default Re: Rigo fooled Lomas people into saying his name

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Seems like Rigo's team are the ones having their bluff called tbh



    "Egis Klimas does not fight in the ring, Egis Klimas is not making a fight, Egis Klimas has promoters who are making a fight. Rigondeaux and his team knows Top Rank's number. If Top Rank will come to me and say Rigondeaux is ready to fight then I will approve that fight together with Lomachenko."
    The highly regarded Ukrainian is scheduled to fight in August but is looking for a suitable opponent.
    "If they're going to come, Top Rank, and they're going to say,'they want to fight' and make a deal with Top Rank, Top Rank will come back to us and we will approve the fight. I don't have any problems," said Klimas, who reiterated - "I don't go and fight and train, I don't make the fight That's what we have promoters for but if they want to come in and fight at 130 - we have no problem. We will be very happy.
    "If they make the August date, we're very happy to fight Rigondeaux."

    http://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenk...ndeaux--117909
    Call Top Rank, call Top Rank. We know Bob wants no part of Rigo. Interesting that now Klimas doesn't make fights. A couple days ago Klimas said come to 130 and they can do it. Rigo said yes and now Klimas has no choice in the matter. Dude straight up changed his story and you want to believe both stories that contradict each other. Rigo's story has always been "let's fight"
    Bob is Bob nobody believes anything he says. I am sure both fighters would get in a ring tomorrow, the rest is just show business and politics. All this posturing is just that, for percentages, leverage, publicity etc. From both sides
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    Default Re: Rigo fooled Lomas people into saying his name

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Seems like Rigo's team are the ones having their bluff called tbh



    "Egis Klimas does not fight in the ring, Egis Klimas is not making a fight, Egis Klimas has promoters who are making a fight. Rigondeaux and his team knows Top Rank's number. If Top Rank will come to me and say Rigondeaux is ready to fight then I will approve that fight together with Lomachenko."
    The highly regarded Ukrainian is scheduled to fight in August but is looking for a suitable opponent.
    "If they're going to come, Top Rank, and they're going to say,'they want to fight' and make a deal with Top Rank, Top Rank will come back to us and we will approve the fight. I don't have any problems," said Klimas, who reiterated - "I don't go and fight and train, I don't make the fight That's what we have promoters for but if they want to come in and fight at 130 - we have no problem. We will be very happy.
    "If they make the August date, we're very happy to fight Rigondeaux."

    http://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenk...ndeaux--117909
    Call Top Rank, call Top Rank. We know Bob wants no part of Rigo. Interesting that now Klimas doesn't make fights. A couple days ago Klimas said come to 130 and they can do it. Rigo said yes and now Klimas has no choice in the matter. Dude straight up changed his story and you want to believe both stories that contradict each other. Rigo's story has always been "let's fight"
    Bob is Bob nobody believes anything he says. I am sure both fighters would get in a ring tomorrow, the rest is just show business and politics. All this posturing is just that, for percentages, leverage, publicity etc. From both sides
    Not just posturing. Rigo's side wants the fight. In the end fighters are responsible if their team protects them. It's their career. Loma is my 2nd favorite fighter but he needs to fight guys that are on his level and there aren't many to choose from at that level. One is ready to go, on short notice.

    People shouldn't be glossing over the fact Loma's team is trying to force people into short camp fights either. Rigo is one of the few that it wouldn't be an issue because he just fought and it was only one round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
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    Seems like Rigo's team are the ones having their bluff called tbh"Egis Klimas does not fight in the ring, Egis Klimas is not making a fight, Egis Klimas has promoters who are making a fight. Rigondeaux and his team knows Top Rank's number. If Top Rank will come to me and say Rigondeaux is ready to fight then I will approve that fight together with Lomachenko."The highly regarded Ukrainian is scheduled to fight in August but is looking for a suitable opponent."If they're going to come, Top Rank, and they're going to say,'they want to fight' and make a deal with Top Rank, Top Rank will come back to us and we will approve the fight. I don't have any problems," said Klimas, who reiterated - "I don't go and fight and train, I don't make the fight That's what we have promoters for but if they want to come in and fight at 130 - we have no problem. We will be very happy."If they make the August date, we're very happy to fight Rigondeaux."http://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenk...ndeaux--117909
    Call Top Rank, call Top Rank. We know Bob wants no part of Rigo. Interesting that now Klimas doesn't make fights. A couple days ago Klimas said come to 130 and they can do it. Rigo said yes and now Klimas has no choice in the matter. Dude straight up changed his story and you want to believe both stories that contradict each other. Rigo's story has always been "let's fight"
    Bob is Bob nobody believes anything he says. I am sure both fighters would get in a ring tomorrow, the rest is just show business and politics. All this posturing is just that, for percentages, leverage, publicity etc. From both sides
    Not just posturing. Rigo's side wants the fight. In the end fighters are responsible if their team protects them. It's their career. Loma is my 2nd favorite fighter but he needs to fight guys that are on his level and there aren't many to choose from at that level. One is ready to go, on short notice. People shouldn't be glossing over the fact Loma's team is trying to force people into short camp fights either. Rigo is one of the few that it wouldn't be an issue because he just fought and it was only one round.
    Let's hope they make it happen then.

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    Default Re: Rigo fooled Lomas people into saying his name

    Rigo blew a great opportunity to have a stage and make a case by losing his cool and getting wrapped up in "make it up as we go-gate" with Flores mess. Now we know it was a matter of time and levels clear in a round but I'd like him to clean that up. He knows he needs Loma more than roles reversed.

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    Default Re: Rigo fooled Lomas people into saying his name

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Seems like Rigo's team are the ones having their bluff called tbh



    "Egis Klimas does not fight in the ring, Egis Klimas is not making a fight, Egis Klimas has promoters who are making a fight. Rigondeaux and his team knows Top Rank's number. If Top Rank will come to me and say Rigondeaux is ready to fight then I will approve that fight together with Lomachenko."
    The highly regarded Ukrainian is scheduled to fight in August but is looking for a suitable opponent.
    "If they're going to come, Top Rank, and they're going to say,'they want to fight' and make a deal with Top Rank, Top Rank will come back to us and we will approve the fight. I don't have any problems," said Klimas, who reiterated - "I don't go and fight and train, I don't make the fight That's what we have promoters for but if they want to come in and fight at 130 - we have no problem. We will be very happy.
    "If they make the August date, we're very happy to fight Rigondeaux."

    http://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenk...ndeaux--117909
    Call Top Rank, call Top Rank. We know Bob wants no part of Rigo. Interesting that now Klimas doesn't make fights. A couple days ago Klimas said come to 130 and they can do it. Rigo said yes and now Klimas has no choice in the matter. Dude straight up changed his story and you want to believe both stories that contradict each other. Rigo's story has always been "let's fight"
    Did you even read the article Beanz posted? Klimas accepted the fight. How can he make it any clearer than say "I don't have any problems, if they want to come in and fight at 130 - we have no problem. We will be very happy, If they make the August date, we're very happy to fight Rigondeaux."

    And if you know "Bob wont have anything to do with Rigo" why bring it up in the first place?

    So you knew the fight was impossible to make - as Arum is Loma's promoter - yet for some bizarre reason you're claiming Loma is ducking Rigo even though his manager is on record saying he gives it the green light.
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    Default Re: Rigo fooled Lomas people into saying his name

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Seems like Rigo's team are the ones having their bluff called tbh



    "Egis Klimas does not fight in the ring, Egis Klimas is not making a fight, Egis Klimas has promoters who are making a fight. Rigondeaux and his team knows Top Rank's number. If Top Rank will come to me and say Rigondeaux is ready to fight then I will approve that fight together with Lomachenko."
    The highly regarded Ukrainian is scheduled to fight in August but is looking for a suitable opponent.
    "If they're going to come, Top Rank, and they're going to say,'they want to fight' and make a deal with Top Rank, Top Rank will come back to us and we will approve the fight. I don't have any problems," said Klimas, who reiterated - "I don't go and fight and train, I don't make the fight That's what we have promoters for but if they want to come in and fight at 130 - we have no problem. We will be very happy.
    "If they make the August date, we're very happy to fight Rigondeaux."

    http://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenk...ndeaux--117909
    Call Top Rank, call Top Rank. We know Bob wants no part of Rigo. Interesting that now Klimas doesn't make fights. A couple days ago Klimas said come to 130 and they can do it. Rigo said yes and now Klimas has no choice in the matter. Dude straight up changed his story and you want to believe both stories that contradict each other. Rigo's story has always been "let's fight"
    Did you even read the article Beanz posted? Klimas accepted the fight. How can he make it any clearer than say "I don't have any problems, if they want to come in and fight at 130 - we have no problem. We will be very happy, If they make the August date, we're very happy to fight Rigondeaux."

    And if you know "Bob wont have anything to do with Rigo" why bring it up in the first place?

    So you knew the fight was impossible to make - as Arum is Loma's promoter - yet for some bizarre reason you're claiming Loma is ducking Rigo even though his manager is on record saying he gives it the green light.
    You have a reading comprehension issue. I am not claiming Loma is ducking. I'm saying Lomas people are keeping him away from Rigo. Klimas said "come to 130 and we'll do it". Now he says contact Top Rank and they'll contact us. You see how once all his demands were met and he had no more room to change his story he changed his story. We have no problem with the fight is not even remotely the same as "okay, let's fight" and you know it. If they say okay, let's fight then it all falls on Bob. They have Loma confirmed as wanting the fight and Rigo confirmed as wanting the fight. Bob looks stupid if he doesn't make the fight so he makes the fight.

    But, contact Top Rank and they'll contact us just opens new doors to get out of. Last negotiations Rigo said 124, they said no 126, Rigo said 126 with hydration clause, they said no, Rigo said okay 126 but I want to get paid, they said no. At that point Top Rank stopped all communications. Top Rank hasn't spoken with them since. Contact Top Rank and they'll contact us is "leave us alone"

    Two days, Loma has Twitter, why hasn't he said he wants the fight? Why didn't Klimas say they want the fight? The answer is simple, they don't want the fight.

    I don't think Loma has any problem with the fight but it's clear his people do and denying it only allows Top Rank to pick and choose.

    Keep track, anyone that sees any person from that side say they want the fight let me know. I'll be glad to read it or watch it. But I won't be holding my breath

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    Default Re: Rigo fooled Lomas people into saying his name

    Let me make this more clear. Bob doesn't want the fight. We know this.

    So the only way to the fight is if everyone else says they do. Even then it might not happen but it's the only possibility

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    Default Re: Rigo fooled Lomas people into saying his name

    Could be just me, but it sounds like Rigo is echoing the same Roc Nation rhetoric. They want everything handed to them and they want to get paid x amount, be in control of etc in the modern mayweather model of promotion and don't realize that Arum is not about to be bullied like Duva was. Klimas has a ringside seat to the Roc nation f*ckery with the ward/Kov rematch and i don't think he wants to be involved with them again anytime soon, Duva said as much before that fight about doing business with them again.

    Ol' bob isn't gonna bend over for them, especially while he's probably looking to migrate his fighters to a free tv format. First Pac on espn and HBO is looking to shave their boxing budget supposedly... so Then maybe later Crawford and Loma. If Rigo was an in house fighter, i doubt there would be much trouble making this match, just like the walters match... just my two....
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    Default Re: Rigo fooled Lomas people into saying his name

    Klimas is the one who f'd Kovalev. Seriously, people don't know who to blame.

    Klimas f's Kovalev and now he lies to Loma and Rigo and it's Roc Nations fault? This is madness. We know Klimas lied about this because we watched him.

    And Loma is following their lead. Refusing to simply say "I want the fight"

    https://mobile.twitter.com/VasylLoma...5473180674?p=v

    But Rigo the bully comes with the quickness, of course no response back to him.

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    And how the f is the guy that gave into all the demands being accused of making it his way? Is he asking for 122? Is he asking for 124? Is he asking 126, is he asking 128? Or is he saying he will go up 2 entire divisions to meet the other teams demands? That's right, he's the one agreeing, not demanding so stop twisting.

    And for that matter. Fans think Lomas side made a fair offer last time. Then why did they lie about what they offered? Loma publically agreed to 1 million

    https://www.badlefthook.com/2015/8/1...ght-on-twitter

    But the bid had far more than 1.5 million, especially when you consider HBO AND gate! So why did they only offer 500k? That's not what was agreed. This stuff is rather simple. If you can see people lying you stop believing them.

    I like Loma more than Rigo too but you have to sit there with your fingers in your ears and your eyes closed to not see which side is lying.
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    Default Re: Rigo fooled Lomas people into saying his name

    The Sh*t talking on twitter from whoever is typing Rigo's Tweets and Whoever might be typing Lomas tweets (maybe that's loma, but more like Klimas) don't even mention a number. Its promo bantering to see to get people worked up and clamoring for it . The Tweets from that article are from 2 years ago (where rigo couldn't draw flies to crap and he and Klitchsko were exiled from hbo for having a boring style). The numbers are obviously going to be different at this point. I actually like that Rigo attempted to fight a more crowd pleasing style after that but i don't know if much has changed for Rigo draw wise. It doesn't matter to me as different fighters will appeal to different fans. It just seems historically typical of rock nation fighters to call out big targets from the bottom and trying to skip the line to swoop in for big money fights and then try to get a "fair shake\ advantages" afterwards. If Rigo steps right in to fight Loma, like ward did with Kovalev... i see that as Loma's peoples fault not rigo's (hey they most they can say is no... doesnt hurt to try ) but i see it as one of boxing's problems now. There is no respect for the rules, earning a shot or climbing a ladder anymore.... its all whining about buys, and power trip promoters and trivial bargaining details. I have problems with Roc nation and anyone whos trying to rewrite the game with no respect for the process that proceeded them .
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