Twin Towers WTC v Grenfell Tower

[Beanz]

Do you know what this has nothing to do with Grenfell Tower which still dominates the headlines here and rightfully so. Many of the residents have still not been rehoused. Take your disdain for those living on council estates and your insistence that people are disabled because of lifestyle choices and start a new thread.

Ah yes....behold berating a cancer survivor for not being empathetic enough to the plight of the poor.


I bet the view is great from THAT moral high ground

Nice Lyle. I may be mistaken, but I thought that Miles didn't have chemo or drugs or any other treatment because what he thought might be cancer turned out not to be. Despite that I can remember telling you and Brock to lay off him a while back. I am not taking the moral high ground at all, there are other posters here with AS and I can assure it is incredibly painful every day but I am quite aware it is not cancer. They prescribed my NSAIDS to take and morphine patches to wear but I no longer use them because they make it hard to work. The disabled and the poor are often the same group and you just sound like a heartless bastard all thru this thread. In this country there are numerous cases of people being diagnosed with terminal cancer and then being found fit for work by private American companies insisting they are fit to work. Many, many of them dies within days of being found fit to work. That is why your politics stink. Narrow minded thinking in which money trumps decent values costs lives. Those poor people from Grenfell are dead because profit won over decency.

[El Kabong]

You might want to save those words for someone who is going to bother reading them or responding to them....I've told you already I'm NOT conversing with you anymore. So you take your butthurt and you go elsewhere ok? Ok buh-bye

[Fenster]

Your condition is an inflammation and fusing of the joints in the spine. Your inflammation is likely caused by age, malnutrition and toxins. My friend has exactly that and swears that it has made a huge difference. A very smart fellow who knows his lifestyle stuff. He no longer needs prescription medications.

There are levels of severity to all illnesses/conditions. Just because your mate said his voodoo works a treat doesn't mean it's gonna make a jot of difference to some cunt diagnosed with the "same" condition that permanently needs a walking stick(s) to maintain balance, a mechanical bed to be able to lay down and get up, bathroom aids to use a toilet and sink, home conversions and an inabilty to lift a kettle, butter bread or turn a tap on until their prescription medications have kicked in.

If you want to know what it's like for some raspberry's with ankylosing spondylitis - When you wake up in the morning, instead of going to work, stay in bed, piss and shit yourself then lay there for 6 hours, have about a hundred goes at rolling out the bed until you finally achieve it, hopefully not breaking your wrist or dislocating a shoulder from the fall, then lie on the floor for another 6 hours praying you had a gun to end the torture because you're so pathetic you can't drag yourself upright.

Then the next morning - piss yourself whilst walking to the toilet and see how happy/relieved you feel at not having to experience the horror of yesterday.

And remember you're doing all this without constantly being in agnonsing, paralysing, pain.

[Beanz]

Your condition is an inflammation and fusing of the joints in the spine. Your inflammation is likely caused by age, malnutrition and toxins. My friend has exactly that and swears that it has made a huge difference. A very smart fellow who knows his lifestyle stuff. He no longer needs prescription medications.

There are levels of severity to all illnesses/conditions. Just because your mate said his voodoo works a treat doesn't mean it's gonna make a jot of difference to some cunt diagnosed with the "same" condition that permanently needs a walking stick(s) to maintain balance, a mechanical bed to be able to lay down and get up, bathroom aids to use a toilet and sink, home conversions and an inabilty to lift a kettle, butter bread or turn a tap on until their prescription medications have kicked in.

If you want to know what it's like for some raspberry's with ankylosing spondylitis - When you wake up in the morning, instead of going to work, stay in bed, piss and shit yourself then lay there for 6 hours, have about a hundred goes at rolling out the bed until you finally achieve it, hopefully not breaking your wrist or dislocating a shoulder from the fall, then lie on the floor for another 6 hours praying you had a gun to end the torture because you're so pathetic you can't drag yourself upright.

Then the next morning - piss yourself whilst walking to the toilet and see how happy/relieved you feel at not having to experience the horror of yesterday.

And remember you're doing all this without constantly being in agnonsing, paralysing, pain.

My friend has told me what it is like. The constant need for pain meds and anti inflammatories. How exercise is no longer possible. How sleeping became a nightmare. It worked. Life is still more limited but relieved of pain, sleeping better etc. If the spine has already fused then you will have a hard time without surgery, but if you catch it early enough and give your body the nutrition we do not get from diet alone because most of our food is depleted (even the good stuff) it can be relieved and controlled. If it works then good. If not don't ever mention it again. There is nothing voodoo about minerals that you don't have enough of. They get the body working in symbiosis again. The disease happens because your body isn't working as it should. It's likely a deficiency. Everything happens for a reason. Most disease is a deficiency. Mine certainly was. There is a reason the Royals live so long and healthily. They likely have information that we all need. No bread, no oils, organic and get your nutrients on top.

Your arrogance, ignorance and naivety seemingly knows no bounds.

[walrus]

Your condition is an inflammation and fusing of the joints in the spine. Your inflammation is likely caused by age, malnutrition and toxins. My friend has exactly that and swears that it has made a huge difference. A very smart fellow who knows his lifestyle stuff. He no longer needs prescription medications.

There are levels of severity to all illnesses/conditions. Just because your mate said his voodoo works a treat doesn't mean it's gonna make a jot of difference to some cunt diagnosed with the "same" condition that permanently needs a walking stick(s) to maintain balance, a mechanical bed to be able to lay down and get up, bathroom aids to use a toilet and sink, home conversions and an inabilty to lift a kettle, butter bread or turn a tap on until their prescription medications have kicked in.

If you want to know what it's like for some raspberry's with ankylosing spondylitis - When you wake up in the morning, instead of going to work, stay in bed, piss and shit yourself then lay there for 6 hours, have about a hundred goes at rolling out the bed until you finally achieve it, hopefully not breaking your wrist or dislocating a shoulder from the fall, then lie on the floor for another 6 hours praying you had a gun to end the torture because you're so pathetic you can't drag yourself upright.

Then the next morning - piss yourself whilst walking to the toilet and see how happy/relieved you feel at not having to experience the horror of yesterday.

And remember you're doing all this without constantly being in agnonsing, paralysing, pain.

My friend has told me what it is like. The constant need for pain meds and anti inflammatories. How exercise is no longer possible. How sleeping became a nightmare. It worked. Life is still more limited but relieved of pain, sleeping better etc. If the spine has already fused then you will have a hard time without surgery, but if you catch it early enough and give your body the nutrition we do not get from diet alone because most of our food is depleted (even the good stuff) it can be relieved and controlled. If it works then good. If not don't ever mention it again. There is nothing voodoo about minerals that you don't have enough of. They get the body working in symbiosis again. The disease happens because your body isn't working as it should. It's likely a deficiency. Everything happens for a reason. Most disease is a deficiency. Mine certainly was. There is a reason the Royals live so long and healthily. They likely have information that we all need. No bread, no oils, organic and get your nutrients on top.

Your arrogance, ignorance and naivety seemingly knows no bounds.

I find inflammatory meds very
Helpful

[Spicoli]

Wow . six pages in half a day, does anyone here actually do manual work away from a keyboard .

[Beanz]

Wow . six pages in half a day, does anyone here actually do manual work away from a keyboard .

Actually yesterday I was writing all day and editing so yes I did dip a bit in between. A few developers on here too all though they were not contributing.

[walrus]

Your condition is an inflammation and fusing of the joints in the spine. Your inflammation is likely caused by age, malnutrition and toxins. My friend has exactly that and swears that it has made a huge difference. A very smart fellow who knows his lifestyle stuff. He no longer needs prescription medications.

There are levels of severity to all illnesses/conditions. Just because your mate said his voodoo works a treat doesn't mean it's gonna make a jot of difference to some cunt diagnosed with the "same" condition that permanently needs a walking stick(s) to maintain balance, a mechanical bed to be able to lay down and get up, bathroom aids to use a toilet and sink, home conversions and an inabilty to lift a kettle, butter bread or turn a tap on until their prescription medications have kicked in.

If you want to know what it's like for some raspberry's with ankylosing spondylitis - When you wake up in the morning, instead of going to work, stay in bed, piss and shit yourself then lay there for 6 hours, have about a hundred goes at rolling out the bed until you finally achieve it, hopefully not breaking your wrist or dislocating a shoulder from the fall, then lie on the floor for another 6 hours praying you had a gun to end the torture because you're so pathetic you can't drag yourself upright.

Then the next morning - piss yourself whilst walking to the toilet and see how happy/relieved you feel at not having to experience the horror of yesterday.

And remember you're doing all this without constantly being in agnonsing, paralysing, pain.

My friend has told me what it is like. The constant need for pain meds and anti inflammatories. How exercise is no longer possible. How sleeping became a nightmare. It worked. Life is still more limited but relieved of pain, sleeping better etc. If the spine has already fused then you will have a hard time without surgery, but if you catch it early enough and give your body the nutrition we do not get from diet alone because most of our food is depleted (even the good stuff) it can be relieved and controlled. If it works then good. If not don't ever mention it again. There is nothing voodoo about minerals that you don't have enough of. They get the body working in symbiosis again. The disease happens because your body isn't working as it should. It's likely a deficiency. Everything happens for a reason. Most disease is a deficiency. Mine certainly was. There is a reason the Royals live so long and healthily. They likely have information that we all need. No bread, no oils, organic and get your nutrients on top.

Your arrogance, ignorance and naivety seemingly knows no bounds.

I find inflammatory meds very
Helpful

It would help you too, Walrus. Natural anti inflammatories. Calcium plus magnesium plus 77 trace minerals for maximum absorbtion. Please don't call me any names though. Only trying to help. I have my arm and shoulder pain too and potential MG. It really does help relieve pain and no prescription pills.

Omg that stuff fenster is talking about scared the shit out of me. @Fenster I really hope you don't suffer from that, you probably specified but it sounds so bad I can't read it. @miles what is mg not familiar with that one other than the abbreviation for milligram

[walrus]

Myasthenia Gravis. A weird condition where the eyes start going wonky and muscles stop working properly. I am otherwise okay, but some strange symptoms going on whence my crusade to stay as healthy as I can and get all the nutrients I need.

So you have potential mg not definite? Is it diagnosed only by symptoms or can they tell by blood test etc. sounds slightly in the realm of ms. Kind of scary. I just had a physical and the doctor checked my prostate. It was traumatizing, he had hands the size of a professional football player. I have a stack of papers for blood work, just standard check up stuff but every morning I forget and have a glass of orange juice then can't get the test cause it needs to be fasting

[Beanz]

You are such a rude man. I know someone with your condition whose life has been changed by nutrition and you insult me after I try to suggest something to you.

You are the naive one taking the harmful meds in the first place and you are ignorant about how your body is obviously out of balance and defunctioning.

What a horrible, sour, old man you are. It was you who could never change. Like Lyle, I have no reason to exchange with you. All you have are insults and put downs because nobody agrees with you on things. We get it you 'Don't give a fuck' and we 'are all cunts'.

I know your condition and made a simple suggestion. I know it has worked for others too. Whatever. You are obviously far less knowlegable and flexible than I thought.

Fenster has explained to you in very candid terms the reality of living with a chronic long term health condition. Did it not cross your mind for one minute that he and others like myself suffering from such a debilitating condition might have explored countless options in an effort to better live with the disease? It is very misunderstood and you are only adding to that misunderstanding with your insistence that it somehow down to bad choices by those suffering.

AS (ankylosing spondylitis) is often thought to only affect young males and be simply a case of back pain. That is clearly not true 2 of my 3 half sisters and both my half brothers have it, as does my 70 year old father. We all have it in differing degrees.My youngest half brother is not yet out if his 20's and is already bent over like a question mark, it is horrendous and heart breaking to see a young man with a third of his spine fused. the majority of people with AS have the HLA-B27 antigen. The genetic element is clearly beyond dispute. My half siblings mother is a medicinal herbalist and nutritionist and so they have never eaten wheat or gluten since being born in the 1980's and your naive idea that it is simply down to a body being out of balance and can be alleviated with supplements and minerals is just you wanting to the expert on everything as usual. It is nonsense. AS is a auto immune disorder like most arthritic conditions and there is no cure. Anti inflammatory drugs can help alleviate some of the symptoms yet despite the fact that I don't even take them you are suggesting that I harmed myself by taking them in the first place? Do you think they give you morphine because you are bored or something? and you are calling me rude? your lack of empathy borders on the psychopathic Miles.


Slinging around expressions like


"I know your condition" and "you are ignorant about how your body is obviously out of balance and defunctioning" does nothing to help and just betrays your own chronic lack of respect for other posters.


You did not even eat vegetables until very recently and now you are lecturing us on nutrition? You are boasting about sending off to America for organic supplements and buying into the sick INFOWARS bullshit marketing thing when we have had holistic and herbal treatments, organic veg and alternative complimentary therapies here for decades. We grow stuff in our gardens and make tinctures and essential oils etc and they can help some arthritic conditions but they will not unfuse your spine, but no you have the inside track because you subscribe to some nutjob on the internet. What a foolish horrible little man you are.

[brocktonblockbust]

Do you know what this has nothing to do with Grenfell Tower which still dominates the headlines here and rightfully so. Many of the residents have still not been rehoused. Take your disdain for those living on council estates and your insistence that people are disabled because of lifestyle choices and start a new thread.

Ah yes....behold berating a cancer survivor for not being empathetic enough to the plight of the poor.


I bet the view is great from THAT moral high ground

Nice Lyle. I may be mistaken, but I thought that Miles didn't have chemo or drugs or any other treatment because what he thought might be cancer turned out not to be. Despite that I can remember telling you and Brock to lay off him a while back. I am not taking the moral high ground at all, there are other posters here with AS and I can assure it is incredibly painful every day but I am quite aware it is not cancer. They prescribed my NSAIDS to take and morphine patches to wear but I no longer use them because they make it hard to work. The disabled and the poor are often the same group and you just sound like a heartless bastard all thru this thread. In this country there are numerous cases of people being diagnosed with terminal cancer and then being found fit for work by private American companies insisting they are fit to work. Many, many of them dies within days of being found fit to work. That is why your politics stink. Narrow minded thinking in which money trumps decent values costs lives. Those poor people from Grenfell are dead because profit won over decency.

Who would be stupid enough to follow the evil advice of US insurance squads? That some stupid shir right there.

[El Kabong]

Maybe brockton will take the time to read and respond to your posts....not me, I no longer care what you have to say

[Beanz]

Maybe brockton will take the time to read and respond to your posts....not me, I no longer care what you have to say

Ok. Thanks Lyle.

Was really hanging out for a reply from you there. My day seems incomplete now. You are like the missing roughage in a constipated person's diet. You may taste like shit but you sure are good for us. Your bible thumping bit where you went all Moses, was that not conversing then, you know the


"Behold, berating a cancer survivor for not being empathtic enough to the plight of the poor"


bit

or the bit about Brockton responding to my posts


Was that not just a teensy ikkle bit like conversing ?

[Batman]

Why don't you all stand back take 5 and pop into the "amazing incident" thread and marvel at the goat video

[El Kabong]

Why don't you all stand back take 5 and pop into the "amazing incident" thread and marvel at the goat video

....but that cow that was knocked out reminded me of the POOOOOOR