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The Sh*t talking on twitter from whoever is typing Rigo's Tweets and Whoever might be typing Lomas tweets (maybe that's loma, but more like Klimas) don't even mention a number. Its promo bantering to see to get people worked up and clamoring for it . The Tweets from that article are from 2 years ago (where rigo couldn't draw flies to crap and he and Klitchsko were exiled from hbo for having a boring style). The numbers are obviously going to be different at this point. I actually like that Rigo attempted to fight a more crowd pleasing style after that but i don't know if much has changed for Rigo draw wise. It doesn't matter to me as different fighters will appeal to different fans. It just seems historically typical of rock nation fighters to call out big targets from the bottom and trying to skip the line to swoop in for big money fights and then try to get a "fair shake\ advantages" afterwards. If Rigo steps right in to fight Loma, like ward did with Kovalev... i see that as Loma's peoples fault not rigo's (hey they most they can say is no... doesnt hurt to try ) but i see it as one of boxing's problems now. There is no respect for the rules, earning a shot or climbing a ladder anymore.... its all whining about buys, and power trip promoters and trivial bargaining details. I have problems with Roc nation and anyone whos trying to rewrite the game with no respect for the process that proceeded them .
Yes, 2 years ago and it was lies. The important take away is they are still lying. They are still even last negotiations only offering 500k. They said they offered more until Rigo's side showed the contract and then they admitted they only offered 500k. Which might sound like a good chunk but for example when Loma was 1-1 and Gary Russell had never fought for a title they fought for a vacant belt with Loma getting
631,350
Russell getting
420,900

Remember neither had been a champion yet and Loma was 1-1. His star has grown and Rigo is an established champion. 500k is not remotely a fair offer in this situation. That's why they didn't admit what they offered until they were forced to admit.

If Loma gets on his Twitter or someone tells him what is happening on it we may get the fight because he is being abused. Because while Rigo was the first reply saying he agrees to the fight Loma hasn't said yes.

I'm cool with many options for Loma. They've admitted they will never fight Crawford saying "it is suicide". That's fair. A Mikey fight is great. But Miley says "if Loma wants to fight he needs to go to 135 and prove he can fight there so people don't say I picked on the little guy". So if Loma wants to fight at 135, cool. It leads somewhere. If Loma refuses Rigo and fights some nobody at 130 that's not cool. I'd even accept a Salido fight if they allow Salido to fight when he wants to fight. Or of course any of the champions. But turning down a legend to fight a stay busy fight is what I don't want to see.

Lomas date is only 37 days away. He's training. He will be ready. Will his opponent? Rigo is really the only guy talking about fighting him right now and the only fighter people are talking about him fighting. It's the logical fight.
Ok so the question i have is if Loma needs to go to 135 and prove himself before fighting Mikey, why does rigo jump to 130 and precede the other fighters at 130 and get to fight Loma without doing the same? I respect what Mikey is saying and its what i've been saying all along. Theres an easy way to make sure someone can't avoid you... work your way up get on their radar and become the mandatory... If they still don't want to fight they either run like hell and jump networks or something like Stevenson or they drop the belt and stand there with a dumb look on their face like Canelo. The landscape has a way of sorting out these discrepancies. As much I respect Rigo, you cant get dropped by a network for fighting boring fights, get stripped of a title for inactivity, have to fight in China, Japan, Wales and then have youre last fight at 122 overturned to a no contest and expect to smack-talk your way to the front of the line at 130 because you want your pockets lined. It is true what Mikey says about being raked over the coals for fighting a smaller guy. I get that people want to see big fights, but just throwing everything (including the rankings and nobodies that worked their way up the honest way to become mandatories) out the window dishonors the sport and sours the results when the excuses roll in...
You won't get any excuses after from me. I even want Loma to win. It will be a better fight if he does. You can check my history. You will find no fight where I made excuses after a fight. The closest you will find is me saying I disagree with the result. Which, I think everyone disagrees with results from time to time.

As for Rigo being dropped for being boring. That's the company line. He was dropped for ruining the status quo. Rigo became boring when he was a threat to Donaire and he continued being boring because he ruined a profiting fighter. What HBO does is underpay these fighters from Eastern Europe/Asia with help from the promoters/managers.(we're familiar with this in the States from MLB "why would we take an American player at full price when we can have a similar player from the Dominican Republic for pennies on the dollar")

People get this stuff all mixed up. Klimas went on and on about Wards side being dirtbags. But look what happens now, Kovalev wants to work with Wards side. That should tell people everything. Kovalev got screwed by Duva and Klimas and they tried to blame Wards side but the evidence comes out. Any guess who wrote the racist tweets? Kovalev doesn't seem to command the language quite so well. Now Loma(same manager Klimas) has tweets that look exactly the same hmmm.(not racist but pictures look the same) At what point do we go "maybe this guy who keeps lying is the problem, maybe he's lying to his fighters too".

As for Mikey wanting Loma to move up and prove himself being compared to Loma asking Rigo to move up and prove himself. Loma isn't asking Rigo to move up and prove himself. He thinks Rigo doesn't want to fight. What seems more likely, the guy that is saying he will meet every demand he wants to fight is lying and he doesn't want to fight. Or the guy that keeps lying is lying again? I find it far more likely Klimas is misleading Loma just as he mislead Kovalev.

I get the idea that hopping around weights isn't ideal. But we will probably never have a chance again to see a 2 time gold medal winner fight another 2 time gold medal winner. This is an exceptional situation which calls for exceptions. I just want the fight, it's history.

Again, I'm not saying it's Lomas only option. If he fights another titlist, great. If he fights a feel out fight at 135, great. I'm just saying if he isn't going to do one of those things he should fight Rigo.