Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

[TitoFan]

The assertion "the best boxers in the world are the bigger boxers", is a ridiculously false, incorrect statement.
I fail to see how we're agreeing with each other.
I'm just trying to perform a public service here.

you're saying the exact same thing though.. wilder beats chocolatito because he is bigger, I think it is pretty clear that that is what erics eric s or whatever has been saying from the start..Problem seems to be in the wording of the posts. He seems to be using the word boxer as a description of someone who takes part in the sport of boxing and you seem to be using boxer as a class of one of these sportsmen, boxer is someone skilled jabbing moving so on and on.. anyway you guys really are agreeing with each other. I will post no more about it and read on !

I'm saying Deontay would beat Chocolatito to a pulp, but not because he's a better a boxer, but only because he's so much bigger.

Eric says that because Deontay is bigger, he's the better boxer.



We're certainly not saying the same thing.

[erics44]

i am actually

In football the most skilful players are not always the best players

In boxing the most skilful boxers are not always the best

If you can beat another competitor at any sport consistently then you are better than them at that sport

Simples

[Master]

I would like to archive the thread but it just keeps on going.

[erics44]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

[Primo Carnera]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

But SRL Would still beat Valuev , and that blows your argument out of the water!

[Beanz]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

But SRL Would still beat Valuev , and that blows your argument out of the water!

The thing is if SRL was the same size as Valuev he would not have the same tools because Valuev's physicality actually in many ways puts him at a disadvantage. Stamina, clumsiness. etc. While of course not all heavyweights are that cumbersome a lot of it in Valuev's case is down to his freakish size. The whole P4p thing is just as daft as pitting fighters from different eras without giving them the same advantages and disadvantages, and ignoring the fact that many would just adapt to the more recent fighters style etc. It's fun but it is purely subjective.

[erics44]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

But SRL Would still beat Valuev , and that blows your argument out of the water!

I never said always

anyway, do you actually think he would?

[Primo Carnera]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

But SRL Would still beat Valuev , and that blows your argument out of the water!

I never said always

anyway, do you actually think he would?

yeah I do. don't you?
one question though. over the last 10 years, most people recognize Floyd as the Best Boxer on the planet. But Obviously Wlad has been the best HW and most people may believe that Wlad would beat Floyd.
Does that mean that after all your endless posts criticizing Wlad, that you in actual fact believe that he is the Best Boxer of the last 10 years ?

[Primo Carnera]

I'm sorry mate, but I can't help you. #lostcause