Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?

[erics44]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

[Primo Carnera]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

But SRL Would still beat Valuev , and that blows your argument out of the water!

[Beanz]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

But SRL Would still beat Valuev , and that blows your argument out of the water!

The thing is if SRL was the same size as Valuev he would not have the same tools because Valuev's physicality actually in many ways puts him at a disadvantage. Stamina, clumsiness. etc. While of course not all heavyweights are that cumbersome a lot of it in Valuev's case is down to his freakish size. The whole P4p thing is just as daft as pitting fighters from different eras without giving them the same advantages and disadvantages, and ignoring the fact that many would just adapt to the more recent fighters style etc. It's fun but it is purely subjective.

[erics44]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

But SRL Would still beat Valuev , and that blows your argument out of the water!

I never said always

anyway, do you actually think he would?

[Primo Carnera]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

But SRL Would still beat Valuev , and that blows your argument out of the water!

I never said always

anyway, do you actually think he would?

yeah I do. don't you?
one question though. over the last 10 years, most people recognize Floyd as the Best Boxer on the planet. But Obviously Wlad has been the best HW and most people may believe that Wlad would beat Floyd.
Does that mean that after all your endless posts criticizing Wlad, that you in actual fact believe that he is the Best Boxer of the last 10 years ?

[erics44]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

But SRL Would still beat Valuev , and that blows your argument out of the water!

I never said always

anyway, do you actually think he would?

yeah I do. don't you?
one question though. over the last 10 years, most people recognize Floyd as the Best Boxer on the planet. But Obviously Wlad has been the best HW and most people may believe that Wlad would beat Floyd.
Does that mean that after all your endless posts criticizing Wlad, that you in actual fact believe that he is the Best Boxer of the last 10 years ?

nah I doubt srl would beat valuev, id like to think he would but I doubt it

Mayweather is no where near the best boxer on the planet, best lb4lb probably

on paper wlad would have been the best boxer on the planet

but we all know how much he was allowed to cheat, so in a fair fight I couldn't be so sure

[Primo Carnera]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

But SRL Would still beat Valuev , and that blows your argument out of the water!

I never said always

anyway, do you actually think he would?

yeah I do. don't you?
one question though. over the last 10 years, most people recognize Floyd as the Best Boxer on the planet. But Obviously Wlad has been the best HW and most people may believe that Wlad would beat Floyd.
Does that mean that after all your endless posts criticizing Wlad, that you in actual fact believe that he is the Best Boxer of the last 10 years ?

nah I doubt srl would beat valuev, id like to think he would but I doubt it

Mayweather is no where near the best boxer on the planet, best lb4lb probably
but we all know how much he was allowed to cheat, so in a fair fight I couldn't be so sure

So basically, you're saying that anyone below Cruiserweight has virtually no chance of being one of the best Boxers in the World. So all the "smaller" boxers are a load of shit basically.
so , for example, let's use Carl Frampton as an example, or even Lee Selby. Because they couldn't beat bigger guys, the bigger guys are better? so despite being arguably in the top 5 in their division, they're probably only about the 5000th best boxers on the planet ! yeah, nice one.

[erics44]

@Primo Carnera yes, isn't that obvious?

they might be up there lb4lb, comparing them against other fighters of their own size and weight

then there is a lose claim for someone outside the HW to be the best boxer in the world

but in reality they aren't

lb4lb has always been around but only since the HW division went shit and somewhere other than America, and only since Floyd hit 35ish and 0 and kept going on about it, has it come so much to prominence

and people now actually believe the best fighters in the world can be welterweights

[TitoFan]

It's the most interesting thread at the minute tho innit

But SRL Would still beat Valuev , and that blows your argument out of the water!

I never said always

anyway, do you actually think he would?

yeah I do. don't you?
one question though. over the last 10 years, most people recognize Floyd as the Best Boxer on the planet. But Obviously Wlad has been the best HW and most people may believe that Wlad would beat Floyd.
Does that mean that after all your endless posts criticizing Wlad, that you in actual fact believe that he is the Best Boxer of the last 10 years ?

nah I doubt srl would beat valuev, id like to think he would but I doubt it

Mayweather is no where near the best boxer on the planet, best lb4lb probably
but we all know how much he was allowed to cheat, so in a fair fight I couldn't be so sure

So basically, you're saying that anyone below Cruiserweight has virtually no chance of being one of the best Boxers in the World. So all the "smaller" boxers are a load of shit basically.
so , for example, let's use Carl Frampton as an example, or even Lee Selby. Because they couldn't beat bigger guys, the bigger guys are better? so despite being arguably in the top 5 in their division, they're probably only about the 5000th best boxers on the planet ! yeah, nice one.

"The best boxers in the world are the bigger boxers"

That........ is the original quote.

Glad to see someone else give the brick wall a shot, though.

[Primo Carnera]

I'm sorry mate, but I can't help you. #lostcause