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    Tony.B.Liar and his merry men took us to an illegal war , and had an open door policy on immigration.
    Yes everyone should pay tax , not only the rich , but why should a family of 4 from Africa who come with nothing and earn below the tax limit ( that's if thety work at all ) get a free life on me ?
    Bill Gates said today , Europe needs to change its policy on immigration or it will be over run by African migrants.
    Thankyou Tony Blair and co.

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    SJW "Save Humanity's Poor" liberals will be crying soon after they are totally overrun by people who do not care about them or their values or their systems AT ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Yes because they do not believe in public services. If you think you know more about British politics than the Brits why would you even post in this thread? I have nothing against wealthy people I know people who own stately homes who are lovely people but there is no excuse for not paying your taxes or abusing the power that wealth gives you to keep other people down. I mean it's quite uncontroversial stuff but if you think those working in the public sector do not deserve a pay rise at least in line with inflation at 2.9% then you are aligning yourself with the Tories. In the Labour and every other parties manifesto they guaranteed a pay rise of above 1% for firemen etc. Even under the worst "new labour" government when I was a public sector worker for the CPS we were given a pay rise above inflation and certainly above 1%. So yes


    Only the Tories



    There's certainly no shortage of Labour/Lib Dems queued up and ready to protest whenever THE GOVERNMENT fucks up and yet they're still for bigger, "better", more invasive, cradle to grave womb to tomb Central Government even if that Government is idiotic and makes big mistakes like the ones made at Grenfell or in any other council estate with similar issues.....didn't PM Tony Blair LABOUR have some kind of 'Decent Homes Initiative' hmm? And that did what now?



    Who's not paying taxes and why the fuck is that first on your list? The government had more than enough money to fix the problems and they just never saw fit to address those problems. Not the Tories as you say, but also not Labour or Lib Dems. The Lib Dems of Southwark Council only had to pay a small fine for the fire at Lakanal House which took the lives of 6 people in 2009, but that's not enough to keep Jeremy Corbyn from grandstanding on this issue.



    I feel sorry for people dependent on government....fucking abusive relationship that one. In the United States for the 1949 Housing Act entire communities (only the "poor" ones mind you) were destroyed and then those people who owned or rented homes were placed in prison like project buildings and the inner cities went to shit....but hey good intentions is how we measure the successes of left leaning policies we certainly can't judge them based on results.


    I don't want the government doing much for me and because I care about others I do what I can to provide for those in need via charity....I suppose that makes me some kind of vile person since I do not wish for another of my fellow citizens to become a slave to government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Yes because they do not believe in public services. If you think you know more about British politics than the Brits why would you even post in this thread? I have nothing against wealthy people I know people who own stately homes who are lovely people but there is no excuse for not paying your taxes or abusing the power that wealth gives you to keep other people down. I mean it's quite uncontroversial stuff but if you think those working in the public sector do not deserve a pay rise at least in line with inflation at 2.9% then you are aligning yourself with the Tories. In the Labour and every other parties manifesto they guaranteed a pay rise of above 1% for firemen etc. Even under the worst "new labour" government when I was a public sector worker for the CPS we were given a pay rise above inflation and certainly above 1%. So yes


    Only the Tories



    There's certainly no shortage of Labour/Lib Dems queued up and ready to protest whenever THE GOVERNMENT fucks up and yet they're still for bigger, "better", more invasive, cradle to grave womb to tomb Central Government even if that Government is idiotic and makes big mistakes like the ones made at Grenfell or in any other council estate with similar issues.....didn't PM Tony Blair LABOUR have some kind of 'Decent Homes Initiative' hmm? And that did what now?



    Who's not paying taxes and why the fuck is that first on your list? The government had more than enough money to fix the problems and they just never saw fit to address those problems. Not the Tories as you say, but also not Labour or Lib Dems. The Lib Dems of Southwark Council only had to pay a small fine for the fire at Lakanal House which took the lives of 6 people in 2009, but that's not enough to keep Jeremy Corbyn from grandstanding on this issue.



    I feel sorry for people dependent on government....fucking abusive relationship that one. In the United States for the 1949 Housing Act entire communities (only the "poor" ones mind you) were destroyed and then those people who owned or rented homes were placed in prison like project buildings and the inner cities went to shit....but hey good intentions is how we measure the successes of left leaning policies we certainly can't judge them based on results.


    I don't want the government doing much for me and because I care about others I do what I can to provide for those in need via charity....I suppose that makes me some kind of vile person since I do not wish for another of my fellow citizens to become a slave to government.
    Sorry to disappoint you but we are not your fellow citizens and it is no good you trying to impose the American model onto the rest of the world. I don't think you understand the difference between councils and the government the Lib Dems and Labour, new Labour under Blair and true Labour before and after him. It would take quite a long time to explain and be a huge waste of energy because you have your mind made up. You cannot use America in trying to understand the UK. Particularly now when you are being run like a corporation which is the complete opposite of what governments are elected to do.
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    This is the attitude of the most arrogant Government the UK has ever had. Cheering when they manage to freeze the wages of emergency services after the last few weeks we have had.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    Sorry to disappoint you but we are not your fellow citizens and it is no good you trying to impose the American model onto the rest of the world. I don't think you understand the difference between councils and the government the Lib Dems and Labour, new Labour under Blair and true Labour before and after him. It would take quite a long time to explain and be a huge waste of energy because you have your mind made up. You cannot use America in trying to understand the UK. Particularly now when you are being run like a corporation which is the complete opposite of what governments are elected to do.
    Yeah again so 100% Tories fault and NOT just government in general....k, got it. Get your pitchfork and torch and storm Parliament

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    This is the attitude of the most arrogant Government the UK has ever had. Cheering when they manage to freeze the wages of emergency services after the last few weeks we have had.


    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ants?CMP=fb_gu
    But all the MPs vote for themselves for a pay rise regardless of which party they are members of, they are all fucking full of shit sorry to say Jeremy for all his bullshit far left crap has private education for his kid, what a fucking idiot do as I say not as I do.
    I hate the Tory's and Jeremy the twerp fuck what a fucking bunch of ass holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    This is the attitude of the most arrogant Government the UK has ever had. Cheering when they manage to freeze the wages of emergency services after the last few weeks we have had.


    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ants?CMP=fb_gu
    But all the MPs vote for themselves for a pay rise regardless of which party they are members of, they are all fucking full of shit sorry to say Jeremy for all his bullshit far left crap has private education for his kid, what a fucking idiot do as I say not as I do.
    I hate the Tory's and Jeremy the twerp fuck what a fucking bunch of ass holes.
    Well you're going to get a bit of a talking to ain't ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    This is the attitude of the most arrogant Government the UK has ever had. Cheering when they manage to freeze the wages of emergency services after the last few weeks we have had.


    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ants?CMP=fb_gu
    But all the MPs vote for themselves for a pay rise regardless of which party they are members of, they are all fucking full of shit sorry to say Jeremy for all his bullshit far left crap has private education for his kid, what a fucking idiot do as I say not as I do.
    I hate the Tory's and Jeremy the twerp fuck what a fucking bunch of ass holes.
    Corbyn's wife, from whom he is separated, sent his son to a comprehensive against his wishes and the issue here is why for 7 years the public sector wage rise has been capped at 1%. The Labour party under Corbyn tried to reverse the cap on Public sector Pay, a rise to at least keep up with inflation so that Fire Fighters, Paramedics, Nurses etc do not become part of the working poor and who exactly would vote against that?




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    Sorry to disappoint you but we are not your fellow citizens and it is no good you trying to impose the American model onto the rest of the world. I don't think you understand the difference between councils and the government the Lib Dems and Labour, new Labour under Blair and true Labour before and after him. It would take quite a long time to explain and be a huge waste of energy because you have your mind made up. You cannot use America in trying to understand the UK. Particularly now when you are being run like a corporation which is the complete opposite of what governments are elected to do.
    Yeah again so 100% Tories fault and NOT just government in general....k, got it. Get your pitchfork and torch and storm Parliament
    Again since when does supporting the opposition mean not supporting democracy ? You seem to have no interest in anything but opposing things for the sake of it. That is not debating it is you literally making up your opponents position. Incredibly lame and tiresome way to carry on.
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