Joshua v Klitschko in Vegas?

[Master]

I get that but the fighters benefit most, so you might as well say they're not worth the money they get paid.

AJ-Wlad - £30 million was amassed from UK PPV.

You expect them to leave all those millions behind for the sake of who? You. Because you're unwilling to pay for your entertainment.

Now for people that can't afford it then it's entirely different, fuck, i'm even ditching this Sky lark now. However, it still doesn't change the fact it's the fighters that benefit.

Fighters benefit but they are used as an excuse by promoters and TV companies for doing this when it is they that are pushing it to maximise their profits. Sky have grossly over paid on the football so have to recoup their money back and one way is the excessive use of ppv.

If these people stopped pushing ppv the fighters would have little option but to take the next best deal. It is in the interest of Sky and Eddie to manufacture these fight to be ppv when they are clearly not.

Fighters are used as an excuse?
Just out of curiousity, who exactly do you think earns the most money out of a ppv event?
A. The fighters
B. The promoter
C. The TV Company
D. The Taxman
Better still, it would be great if you put them in order.
That way, you work out who you should be castigating.

It is blood sucking business model perpetuated by the TV companies and promoters who are to blame, the fighters will retire but these greedy people will remain for many years to come.

[Fenster]

The fighter is on 80% of those major Matchroom PPV shows. Every penny spent relating to them (undercard, etc) comes out of their pot.

[Primo Carnera]

I get that but the fighters benefit most, so you might as well say they're not worth the money they get paid.

AJ-Wlad - £30 million was amassed from UK PPV.

You expect them to leave all those millions behind for the sake of who? You. Because you're unwilling to pay for your entertainment.

Now for people that can't afford it then it's entirely different, fuck, i'm even ditching this Sky lark now. However, it still doesn't change the fact it's the fighters that benefit.

Fighters benefit but they are used as an excuse by promoters and TV companies for doing this when it is they that are pushing it to maximise their profits. Sky have grossly over paid on the football so have to recoup their money back and one way is the excessive use of ppv.

If these people stopped pushing ppv the fighters would have little option but to take the next best deal. It is in the interest of Sky and Eddie to manufacture these fight to be ppv when they are clearly not.

Fighters are used as an excuse?
Just out of curiousity, who exactly do you think earns the most money out of a ppv event?
A. The fighters
B. The promoter
C. The TV Company
D. The Taxman
Better still, it would be great if you put them in order.
That way, you work out who you should be castigating.

It is blood sucking business model perpetuated by the TV companies and promoters who are to blame, the fighters will retire but these greedy people will remain for many years to come.

No disrespect Máté, but you talk some horseshit when you try to swerve the question. Just fucking answer it mate.
@Fenster even gave you a bit of help with the answer.

[Beanz]

I get that but the fighters benefit most, so you might as well say they're not worth the money they get paid.

AJ-Wlad - £30 million was amassed from UK PPV.

You expect them to leave all those millions behind for the sake of who? You. Because you're unwilling to pay for your entertainment.

Now for people that can't afford it then it's entirely different, fuck, i'm even ditching this Sky lark now. However, it still doesn't change the fact it's the fighters that benefit.

Fighters benefit but they are used as an excuse by promoters and TV companies for doing this when it is they that are pushing it to maximise their profits. Sky have grossly over paid on the football so have to recoup their money back and one way is the excessive use of ppv.

If these people stopped pushing ppv the fighters would have little option but to take the next best deal. It is in the interest of Sky and Eddie to manufacture these fight to be ppv when they are clearly not.

Fighters are used as an excuse?
Just out of curiousity, who exactly do you think earns the most money out of a ppv event?
A. The fighters
B. The promoter
C. The TV Company
D. The Taxman
Better still, it would be great if you put them in order.
That way, you work out who you should be castigating.

It is blood sucking business model perpetuated by the TV companies and promoters who are to blame, the fighters will retire but these greedy people will remain for many years to come.

No disrespect Máté, but you talk some horseshit when you try to swerve the question. Just fucking answer it mate.
@Fenster even gave you a bit of help with the answer.

Even on Mastermind people do not have to answer the question. Who are you Geremia Paxmano?

[Primo Carnera]

I get that but the fighters benefit most, so you might as well say they're not worth the money they get paid.

AJ-Wlad - £30 million was amassed from UK PPV.

You expect them to leave all those millions behind for the sake of who? You. Because you're unwilling to pay for your entertainment.

Now for people that can't afford it then it's entirely different, fuck, i'm even ditching this Sky lark now. However, it still doesn't change the fact it's the fighters that benefit.

Fighters benefit but they are used as an excuse by promoters and TV companies for doing this when it is they that are pushing it to maximise their profits. Sky have grossly over paid on the football so have to recoup their money back and one way is the excessive use of ppv.

If these people stopped pushing ppv the fighters would have little option but to take the next best deal. It is in the interest of Sky and Eddie to manufacture these fight to be ppv when they are clearly not.

Fighters are used as an excuse?
Just out of curiousity, who exactly do you think earns the most money out of a ppv event?
A. The fighters
B. The promoter
C. The TV Company
D. The Taxman
Better still, it would be great if you put them in order.
That way, you work out who you should be castigating.

It is blood sucking business model perpetuated by the TV companies and promoters who are to blame, the fighters will retire but these greedy people will remain for many years to come.

No disrespect Máté, but you talk some horseshit when you try to swerve the question. Just fucking answer it mate.
@Fenster even gave you a bit of help with the answer.

Even on Mastermind people do not have to answer the question. Who are you Geremia Paxmano?

All in the interests of healthy debate . He still ain't answered though.
Anyway, I'd expect that reply from you seeing as you've been swerving my questions for the last few days.😉

[Beanz]

I get that but the fighters benefit most, so you might as well say they're not worth the money they get paid. AJ-Wlad - £30 million was amassed from UK PPV. You expect them to leave all those millions behind for the sake of who? You. Because you're unwilling to pay for your entertainment.Now for people that can't afford it then it's entirely different, fuck, i'm even ditching this Sky lark now. However, it still doesn't change the fact it's the fighters that benefit.

Fighters benefit but they are used as an excuse by promoters and TV companies for doing this when it is they that are pushing it to maximise their profits. Sky have grossly over paid on the football so have to recoup their money back and one way is the excessive use of ppv. If these people stopped pushing ppv the fighters would have little option but to take the next best deal. It is in the interest of Sky and Eddie to manufacture these fight to be ppv when they are clearly not.

Fighters are used as an excuse? Just out of curiousity, who exactly do you think earns the most money out of a ppv event?A. The fighters B. The promoterC. The TV Company D. The TaxmanBetter still, it would be great if you put them in order.That way, you work out who you should be castigating.

It is blood sucking business model perpetuated by the TV companies and promoters who are to blame, the fighters will retire but these greedy people will remain for many years to come.

No disrespect Máté, but you talk some horseshit when you try to swerve the question. Just fucking answer it mate. @Fenster even gave you a bit of help with the answer.

Even on Mastermind people do not have to answer the question. Who are you Geremia Paxmano?

All in the interests of healthy debate . He still ain't answered though. Anyway, I'd expect that reply from you seeing as you've been swerving my questions for the last few days.😉

Uh...Yeah.. OK.

[Master]

Primo, what is wrong with you? I am saying there is no need for ppv format. It happens in US and UK for boxing fans but not in Germany where Wlad is more popular than AJ will ever be.

[Primo Carnera]

Primo, what is wrong with you? I am saying there is no need for ppv format. It happens in US and UK for boxing fans but not in Germany where Wlad is more popular than AJ will ever be.

Mate, I detest some of these ridiculous PPV's as much as you do. I also feel that Joe Public is getting rinsed in the UK .
But you have to be realistic and accept that the reason there are more PPV's is because of the demand of the fighters. Yes , promoters and TV Stations are making money, but that's what they're there to do.
And you turn around and say "fighters are earning but they'll be retired soon , but the promoters and TV Leeches will still be taking the money."
Well , you could actually turn that around and say "The fighters are taking the money out of the sport and will ride off into the sunset, but the promoters and TV will carry on investing in the sport and putting money back into it."
Hey, the top fighters know their market value and best of luck to them. But you can't deny the Promoters and TV the money they make because they're stumping up the dough and taking the risks!
Bit of perspective needed bud.

[Master]

Primo, what is wrong with you? I am saying there is no need for ppv format. It happens in US and UK for boxing fans but not in Germany where Wlad is more popular than AJ will ever be.

Mate, I detest some of these ridiculous PPV's as much as you do. I also feel that Joe Public is getting rinsed in the UK .
But you have to be realistic and accept that the reason there are more PPV's is because of the demand of the fighters. Yes , promoters and TV Stations are making money, but that's what they're there to do.
And you turn around and say "fighters are earning but they'll be retired soon , but the promoters and TV Leeches will still be taking the money."
Well , you could actually turn that around and say "The fighters are taking the money out of the sport and will ride off into the sunset, but the promoters and TV will carry on investing in the sport and putting money back into it."
Hey, the top fighters know their market value and best of luck to them. But you can't deny the Promoters and TV the money they make because they're stumping up the dough and taking the risks!
Bit of perspective needed bud.

They invest to make money and make huge profits any risks/mistakes they make they pass it on to subscribers. Let's not feel too sorry for them.

[Beanz]

Primo, what is wrong with you? I am saying there is no need for ppv format. It happens in US and UK for boxing fans but not in Germany where Wlad is more popular than AJ will ever be.

Mate, I detest some of these ridiculous PPV's as much as you do. I also feel that Joe Public is getting rinsed in the UK .
But you have to be realistic and accept that the reason there are more PPV's is because of the demand of the fighters. Yes , promoters and TV Stations are making money, but that's what they're there to do.
And you turn around and say "fighters are earning but they'll be retired soon , but the promoters and TV Leeches will still be taking the money."
Well , you could actually turn that around and say "The fighters are taking the money out of the sport and will ride off into the sunset, but the promoters and TV will carry on investing in the sport and putting money back into it."
Hey, the top fighters know their market value and best of luck to them. But you can't deny the Promoters and TV the money they make because they're stumping up the dough and taking the risks!
Bit of perspective needed bud.

Actually that is a bit oversimplifying things. Fighters sell their own tickets and are taking that risk all career by trying to balance sponsorship, often a day job and then ability to attract fans that will pay them for tickets. As they become more successful and prove themselves as having the pulling power, promoters will start to shoulder more of that risk and start selling and promoting more on behalf of the fighter. Most fighters do not make it to the level where they do not have to worry about personally shifting tickets. Big Promotional companies and Television Corporations can absorb that risk because they are set up to do just that promote. They do not have to embrace the risks the fighters do and have both a stable of fighters and a whole card to offset that. They win all ways. Fighters are there to make money. That is why it is called prizefighting. The fighters then often go on and to train and mange other fighters or at the very least inspire grass roots boxing which fills the gyms and grows the talent pool from which promoters cherry pick. So no, actually there is no way to argue that the boxers themselves are taking the money out of the sport. They are the sport. They employ everyone from trainers to managers and enable promoters, not the other way around.