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    Default Re: Daniel Jacobs- Underrated!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I've watched the fight several times, never seen Jacobs win. I can get the draw, with a struggle, but the win I can't see without pretending Golovkin lost.

    I didn't watch the fight thinking Jacob's was cannon fodder though, I thought he was a top fighter before. I think that played a big part in the scoring. Due to expectation Jacob's success was overplayed, Golovkin's overlooked.

    Miles post sums it up - a perception that Jacobs threw/landed more punches when in fact Golovkin threw something like a hundred more, 200 more jabs and out-threw him in nearly every round. And that completely ignores Golovkin always looked to be dictating the pace/ring.
    Golovkins jab was on point. I just weigh power punches more. And Jacobs landed more power punches in nearly every round. 8/12 by compubox. But I think it was more than that. In the fight thread people were laughing at how far off they felt compubox was.

    First viewing I thought it could go either way. The more times I watch it the more clearly I pick Jacobs because of ring generalship and power punches.

    What's to be taken from it though is GGG is a great fighter, so for Jacobs to be right with him means he's damn good too.

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    Default Re: Daniel Jacobs- Underrated!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I've watched the fight several times, never seen Jacobs win. I can get the draw, with a struggle, but the win I can't see without pretending Golovkin lost.

    I didn't watch the fight thinking Jacob's was cannon fodder though, I thought he was a top fighter before. I think that played a big part in the scoring. Due to expectation Jacob's success was overplayed, Golovkin's overlooked.

    Miles post sums it up - a perception that Jacobs threw/landed more punches when in fact Golovkin threw something like a hundred more, 200 more jabs and out-threw him in nearly every round. And that completely ignores Golovkin always looked to be dictating the pace/ring.
    Golovkins jab was on point. I just weigh power punches more. And Jacobs landed more power punches in nearly every round. 8/12 by compubox. But I think it was more than that. In the fight thread people were laughing at how far off they felt compubox was.

    First viewing I thought it could go either way. The more times I watch it the more clearly I pick Jacobs because of ring generalship and power punches.

    What's to be taken from it though is GGG is a great fighter, so for Jacobs to be right with him means he's damn good too.

    Punches landed is not accurate or definitive, it's just the opinion of the individual compubox enumerator, only punches thrown can be accurately recorded.

    And "power punches" are recorded as any punch thrown that isn't a jab. Therefore a tap whilst in a clinch is recorded as a power punch, a slap, swing, push-punch. Again, what is "landed" should never even be considered.
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    How is Jacobs underrated? Maybe before Golovkin beat him, but not now. Ron is right in that being able to keep Golovkin so honest he really made a statement. I think whatever side of the argument you fall on it is agreed it was a close fight. For me Golovkin did the job he needed to against his best opponent yet. Surprised Jacobs team are letting momentum slide by not even throwing names out there. GGG is all set and Jacob is just treading water. He needs to fight soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    How is Jacobs underrated? Maybe before Golovkin beat him, but not now. Ron is right in that being able to keep Golovkin so honest he really made a statement. I think whatever side of the argument you fall on it is agreed it was a close fight. For me Golovkin did the job he needed to against his best opponent yet. Surprised Jacobs team are letting momentum slide by not even throwing names out there. GGG is all set and Jacob is just treading water. He needs to fight soon.
    He called out BJS and Lemiuex. They said they would rather fight each other. But when that didn't happen neither looked at him.

    Chavez Jr seems to be calling Jacobs out under the premise he was weight drained vs Canelo and will be better at 168. If Jacobs took that fight I wouldn't respect it but I'd understand it.

    I suspect if Charlo beats Heiland we'll see Charlo vs Jacobs for a belt. I don't know what Jacobs is rated by that organisation so I'm not saying it by any evidence. Just what I suspect. Neither is a lucrative opponent, both are talented. I don't see others jumping to fight them. We already know Canelo doesn't want Charlo and GGG is not interested in a Jacobs rematch. It's no stretch to assume GGG isn't interested in Charlo and Canelo would not want Jacobs. So why not Charlo vs Jacobs?

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    Default Re: Daniel Jacobs- Underrated!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
    How is Jacobs underrated? Maybe before Golovkin beat him, but not now. Ron is right in that being able to keep Golovkin so honest he really made a statement. I think whatever side of the argument you fall on it is agreed it was a close fight. For me Golovkin did the job he needed to against his best opponent yet. Surprised Jacobs team are letting momentum slide by not even throwing names out there. GGG is all set and Jacob is just treading water. He needs to fight soon.
    He called out BJS and Lemiuex. They said they would rather fight each other. But when that didn't happen neither looked at him.

    Chavez Jr seems to be calling Jacobs out under the premise he was weight drained vs Canelo and will be better at 168. If Jacobs took that fight I wouldn't respect it but I'd understand it.

    I suspect if Charlo beats Heiland we'll see Charlo vs Jacobs for a belt. I don't know what Jacobs is rated by that organisation so I'm not saying it by any evidence. Just what I suspect. Neither is a lucrative opponent, both are talented. I don't see others jumping to fight them. We already know Canelo doesn't want Charlo and GGG is not interested in a Jacobs rematch. It's no stretch to assume GGG isn't interested in Charlo and Canelo would not want Jacobs. So why not Charlo vs Jacobs?
    Charlo / Jacobs is a great fight. Jacobs has more than made his point.
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