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[Spicoli]

Marriaga is an excellent opponent. It's a testament to Loma that he's so ridiculously good that a proven top level whacker is seen as a "gimme" for a geezer that hasn't even had 10 fights.

You speak odds and betting...purely for entertainment purposes of course ...better than anyone I've seen, they've listed Loma as a 100-1 favorite now. Sound reasonable or are they blinded by the light. Seems astonishing considering Marriaga just took young Valdez to the brink.

[Ron Swanson]

I think the odds are based on Marriaga never having beaten a good fighter. His best win is over the 11th best Mexican at 126, the #60 fighter at 126. Ratings wise it's his best win by far.

But that ignores good losses. WaLters won wide, but the more recent fight against Valdez was very good. Valdez clearly beat him but Marriaga made a damn good account of himself.

I think the thought is that gamblers will look at his horrid opposition, and they are right to think it is horrid I was shocked when I really looked more deeply into it, and look at how he lost against the only remotely decent opponents. And they think gamblers won't consider how competitive he was v Valdez.

The number 29 guy at 126 facing the number 1 guy at 130 probably should be very wide. But those are just numbers, numbers don't fight. And Marriaga is better than those numbers.

If I can find a place to get 100-1 I'll drop 100 on it because why not.

Edit-what I'm finding is +1600, not worth it to me.

[Alpha]

Marriaga is an excellent opponent. It's a testament to Loma that he's so ridiculously good that a proven top level whacker is seen as a "gimme" for a geezer that hasn't even had 10 fights.

You speak odds and betting...purely for entertainment purposes of course ...better than anyone I've seen, they've listed Loma as a 100-1 favorite now. Sound reasonable or are they blinded by the light. Seems astonishing considering Marriaga just took young Valdez to the brink.

Those odds are way out of whack especially considering the Floyd/ Mac odds.

[Fenster]

@Spicoli - The odds are about what I expect them to be, there's a difference between making a fight entertaining/out-performing your odds and actually winning.

Marriaga is 16/1 (personally I think that's slightly to big). So if you think there's a case for him winning then you have a great price.

However, I would assess it like this - can Marriaga outbox Loma? No. Can he out hustle/muscle him? Not likely, he's got a height and reach advantage but moving up to 130, so no significant size advantage. That means he needs a stoppage. Can he KO him? Yes (on paper). He has an 80% KO ratio and proved his class against top-class Valdez and Walters. However, there's no evidence that Loma is susceptible to taking a shot and has no stamina worries. When you factor in cuts and injuries then 16/1 for a proven puncher doesn't look so bad (22/1 to win by stoppage).

Like Alpha said - compared to McGregor (4/1) then Marriaga at 4x the price is a steal. ((Floyd-McGregor has to be completely ignored from a betting standpoint, it's an abnormality)).