Lomachenko? Name 1-3 fighters he needs to face to satisfy you.

[Fenster]

Garcia - who just fought at 140, two weight divisions above Loma's current weight.

Right. And the fight before last he was at 135... and before that he was at super featherweight.
In this day and age where fighters go through weight divisions like pancakes at an "all you can eat", it's anything but a stretch to see Loma in there with Mikey.

Or should we keep feeding him wide-eyed youngsters?

So you want a guy with 10 fights to move up in weight to challenge one of the P4P best in the world. A guy with 10 fights that hasn't even cleaned out his current division. For a guy with 10 fights he sure must be special.

That was my point. Thanks.

[TitoFan]

Garcia - who just fought at 140, two weight divisions above Loma's current weight.

Right. And the fight before last he was at 135... and before that he was at super featherweight.
In this day and age where fighters go through weight divisions like pancakes at an "all you can eat", it's anything but a stretch to see Loma in there with Mikey.

Or should we keep feeding him wide-eyed youngsters?

So you want a guy with 10 fights to move up in weight to challenge one of the P4P best in the world. A guy with 10 fights that hasn't even cleaned out his current division. For a guy with 10 fights he sure must be special.

That was my point. Thanks.

He's already been anointed. He was given a title shot in his 2nd pro fight.

Sure... he hasn't "cleaned out his division yet"... he's only got 10 pro fights. There's a little more than 10 contenders at 130.

So.... again.... should we continue feeding him wide-eyed youngsters? So he can mug for the camera?

I'll probably get tired of it.







Thanks.

[powerpuncher]

I'm confused at your motive here. Loma has only 10 professional fights. We get that. He has about 400 amateur fights so he isn't some normal fighter with 10 fights. We all know that he is one of the best fighters in the world. In order to prove that he is the best though, he has to have a signature win.

There are a few fighters at his weight class that would be good fights. Loma would definitely be favored in them all but they are better than Marriaga for sure. Rigo is obviously under him in weight but is a very good fighter and would be a great technical fight. I would love a Garcia fight at 135 too.

Here is the thing though, I'm fine if he wants to stay at 130 and clean out the division. He needs to fight the top guys of the division though. Not just decent competition. I mean why not make the Vladez fight instead of the fighter that Valdez beat? I just don't think Loma needs to take easier fights at this time in his career.

[TitoFan]

You can't on the one hand claim lofty p4p status on a guy with 10 pro fights, and then back away when given worthy candidates to fight. It's hypocritical. Don't think anyone really enjoyed tonight's main event, as it was anything but competitive. If a guy's gonna be crowned p4p # 1... or Top 3... or whatever... then put him in against other top fighters who won't be intimidated by the hype train. To also claim weight differences, especially given these guys are basically the same size.... smells of Canelo avoiding GGG all over again.

[TitoFan]

In any case, I'll stick to my answer. Lomachenko facing Mikey Garcia would really satisfy me.

[Alpha]

I think every fight from here needs to be relevant for Loma. I'm not really interested in a Salido rematch anymore unless he does something to warrant it (win a belt or defeats a contender). If Loma stays at 130 it needs to be unification's. If he wants to challenge himself and back up his talk he targets Mikey. There was talk of Loma going to 135 for Flanagan, why does the tune change when Garcia will be in the other corner?

[Fenster]

If he wants to challenge himself and back up his talk he targets Mikey. There was talk of Loma going to 135 for Flanagan, why does the tune change when Garcia will be in the other corner?

Loma has said he wont fight Garcia?

Barring Garcia - which is clearly everyones favourite - i'd prefer Davis at 130 than Linares/Flanagan etc at lightweight, although they're all top matchups.

[Alpha]

Both guys seem to want the fight but there is already politics at play. The Davis fight is probably just as hard to make. Personally I think Berchelt or Corrales are easier fights to make on ESPN. I just hope Loma isn't kept treading water. I give him a pass here as the Salido fight fell through, as well as Corrales I think. And the ESPN dealing coming into affect. Mikey is trying to make big fights. Loma has to keep pace.

[ykdadamaja]

Garcia looked to have moved out of the weight classification.... so that looks like that being out of the question....

But, Rigo should be there... rematch Salido.... and probably Rances Barthelemy........ that would do for me. Just to make him more legit without chasing the prima donna's... ya know?!

[TitoFan]

I think every fight from here needs to be relevant for Loma. I'm not really interested in a Salido rematch anymore unless he does something to warrant it (win a belt or defeats a contender). If Loma stays at 130 it needs to be unification's. If he wants to challenge himself and back up his talk he targets Mikey. There was talk of Loma going to 135 for Flanagan, why does the tune change when Garcia will be in the other corner?

Because Mikey Garcia is the total package and is a star in his own right. He's been a bit under the radar, as opposed to Loma, but he's got every bit as much self-confidence that Loma has. Frankly, I wouldn't blame Loma for avoiding him.

[Fenster]

I'm confused at your motive here. Loma has only 10 professional fights. We get that. He has about 400 amateur fights so he isn't some normal fighter with 10 fights. We all know that he is one of the best fighters in the world. In order to prove that he is the best though, he has to have a signature win.

Well that right there explains exactly why he can be considered P4P no.1

Amateur fights?

He's not just a unique incredibly skilled two weight world champion within 10 fights he's also the greatest ever amateur. If his amateur career is a reason to fasttrack him then equally it must be factored into his current standing.

[powerpuncher]

I'm confused at your motive here. Loma has only 10 professional fights. We get that. He has about 400 amateur fights so he isn't some normal fighter with 10 fights. We all know that he is one of the best fighters in the world. In order to prove that he is the best though, he has to have a signature win.

Well that right there explains exactly why he can be considered P4P no.1

Amateur fights?

He's not just a unique incredibly skilled two weight world champion within 10 fights he's also the greatest ever amateur. If his amateur career is a reason to fasttrack him then equally it must be factored into his current standing.

I agree. So then why are you keep bringing up the point that he only has 10 pro fights as an excuse to not fight too competition?

[Fenster]

I'm confused at your motive here. Loma has only 10 professional fights. We get that. He has about 400 amateur fights so he isn't some normal fighter with 10 fights. We all know that he is one of the best fighters in the world. In order to prove that he is the best though, he has to have a signature win.

Well that right there explains exactly why he can be considered P4P no.1

Amateur fights?

He's not just a unique incredibly skilled two weight world champion within 10 fights he's also the greatest ever amateur. If his amateur career is a reason to fasttrack him then equally it must be factored into his current standing.

I agree. So then why are you keep bringing up the point that he only has 10 pro fights as an excuse to not fight too competition?

You're reading into my posts something that's not intended. I'm not a fan of any fighter i'm a fan of boxing. If it was up to me I would match all fighters against the toughest possible opposition EVERY fight. No "gimmes," no soft defenses, no easy touches. I couldn't care less about what any fighter earns, their life, career, anything.

I'd have Loma facing Crawford at 140 next let alone Garcia.

[Spicoli]

I'll be honest I'm beginning to hold the toying and cocky shat against him. Not his "greatness" and dominance but conduct while possessing overwhelming advantages as we saw last night. If you're superior...just hammer the nail don't tickle and tap it. Showmanship makes the sport go round but ffs they were running on like he was beating an elite when all he was doing as it went was carrying him to clown. Especially when the opponent was coming -up- in weight and conveniently stuffed into top rankings in a division he had never competed just to make another showcase easier to swallow. His reputation and rep was based on losses, however tough he was. For starters he can fight someone his own flipping size. He has 3 fellow champs in same division. Move to clear it out with Corrales being more likely as he was also featured on espn but I do think Berchelt would provide more of a contest. Davis would be good after a couple more fights, maybe, but think hell would freeze over before promotions work together. Or move up and be represent the weight you're already actually at. Forget all the Crawford stuff..lets slow the roll and do the time and advance properly not leap frog divisions based on anointed 'superiority'. Oh and don't get so cocky he takes wind up hooks he has no business being hit with. Boredom and that sort of thing becomes part of a guys overall presentation and it catches up quick.

[Kirkland Laing]

If Arum does a longer term deal with ESPN and guys like Lomachenko and Crawford are stuck there for several fights I just don't think ESPN will come up with the scratch to make fights like Lomachenko-Garcia or Crawford-Spence a possibility and that's even if Arum wants to make them which is questionable to say the least. Does anybody know the purses for Saturday night's fights or the purses for the upcoming Crawford fight?