Nathan Cleverly-Badou Jack - Excellent fight! (Floyd undercard).

[Batman]

I cant really remember the De Gale fight, am I right in thinking the De Gale was bossing it and then gassed badly and done well to hang on till the end by which point the cards were pretty close?

[GaMo]

I cant really remember the De Gale fight, am I right in thinking the De Gale was bossing it and then gassed badly and done well to hang on till the end by which point the cards were pretty close?

Didn't he get his teeth knocked out

[powerpuncher]

Cleverly is just not that good. He is decent but I believe he has seen better days. Jack isn't great by any means, but he is a solid fighter with solid skills. I don't know if there will be a stoppage, but Jack should win this one pretty easily

[powerpuncher]

Cleverly is just not that good. He is decent but I believe he has seen better days. Jack isn't great by any means, but he is a solid fighter with solid skills. I don't know if there will be a stoppage, but Jack should win this one pretty easily

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[Fenster]

Even though Cleverly is a shadow, this current version of Jack would have battered him at any time regardless. It's incredible watching Jack improve so greatly, become so much faster, stronger and sharper as he gets older. They've got some good training "methods" in the Mayweather gym.

Cleverly was winded in the opening minute(s) which totally drained his confidence and output.

Jack-Kovalev would be some punchup.

[imp]

Kovalev took nathan apart and he will never ever be the same.

Ward needs to stop wasting time and fight Stevenson.

[Ron Swanson]

Even though Cleverly is a shadow, this current version of Jack would have battered him at any time regardless. It's incredible watching Jack improve so greatly, become so much faster, stronger and sharper as he gets older. They've got some good training "methods" in the Mayweather gym.

Cleverly was winded in the opening minute(s) which totally drained his confidence and output.

Jack-Kovalev would be some punchup.

Did you go from American judges would screw him to PEDs to taunt me or are you just incapable of saying X beat Ys arse?

[palmerq]

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/08/...cks-challenge/


would be interesting

[Fenster]

Even though Cleverly is a shadow, this current version of Jack would have battered him at any time regardless. It's incredible watching Jack improve so greatly, become so much faster, stronger and sharper as he gets older. They've got some good training "methods" in the Mayweather gym.

Cleverly was winded in the opening minute(s) which totally drained his confidence and output.

Jack-Kovalev would be some punchup.

Did you go from American judges would screw him to PEDs to taunt me or are you just incapable of saying X beat Ys arse?

I never said anything about "American judges" screwing Clev, you have me mixed up with someone else mate

And i'm certainly not taunting you. Why? No disrespect but why would I possibly have you on my mind? There are loads of regular posters on this forum offering a variety of opinions on a smorgasbord of topics, there's been over a dozen posters partake in this very thread alone. I would have named or quoted you if directly addressing something you've said.

PEDs? I've seen/heard people that apparently "know" about these things accuse him. I'd rather believe his improvement is down to good old hard work and dedication though, innocent until proven guilty.

[Master]

I cant really remember the De Gale fight, am I right in thinking the De Gale was bossing it and then gassed badly and done well to hang on till the end by which point the cards were pretty close?

Yes that is exactly how it went and the teeth knocked out. Bodou was also knocked down.

[GaMo]

Well the Irish and Welsh will be tuning in for this card. They'll both have a reason to drink afterwards...

Not that they need one

[Memphis]

I think Jack's mob are right in their thinking, Cleverly is there for the taking and beating him will positions Jack for one of the proper fights at 175. Jack has made good improvements on a fight by fight basis and I thought he was a close but clear winner of both the Groves and DeGale fights. The fact that he got chinned in a round isnt going away but he stood up to anything Groves and DeGale could throw his way, both respectable punchers. Although a weight class up, Cleverly goes too much with volume, he doesn't put a lot of stink on his punches. Jack on points.

[Spicoli]

Easily the most competitive fight on paper under that circus tent of a card. I thought Jack was headed for the bin of also rans when he was pulverized by Edwards. He just came off as bland and a bit uninspired but now knows he belongs. He should have had the nod over DeGale and showed improved poise and pop that he can surely carry up. Approach wise this feels like a quality over quantity match right now with Cleverly looking to outhustle and it's not entirely out of the question, Jack isn't exactly a raging fire still but his punches sap a guy and Cleverly will be forced to stand in as it goes to keep pace. Can see Jack stronger down stretch and Cleverly gutting it out late but just for a Jack unanimous W.

[Alpha]

He should have had the nod over DeGale and showed improved poise. Approach wise this feels like a quality over quantity match right now with Cleverly looking to outhustle and it's not entirely out of the question, Jack isn't exactly a raging fire still but his punches sap a guy and Cleverly will be forced to stand in as it goes to keep pace. Can see Jack stronger down stretch and Cleverly gutting it out late but just for a Jack unanimous W.

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[Master]

Nathan Cleverly says his bout with Badou Jack "could be the real fight of the night" on the undercard of Floyd Mayweather's "freak event" fight with Conor McGregor.

Welshman Cleverly will be defending his WBA world light heavyweight title against the Swede.

And he says McGregor has no chance of winning on 26 August in Las Vegas.

"In chief support you've got the 'real' fight, between myself and Jack, two world class operators," he said.

"This could be the real fight of the night and I'm looking to capitalise."

Cleverly believes the crossover fight between undefeated boxer Mayweather, 40, and UFC lightweight champion McGregor, 29, who has never boxed professionally, is a complete mismatch.

"I don't believe there is anyway McGregor can win, Mayweather is too good in his art and craft to allow McGregor to capitalise," Cleverly said.

"But fair play, they've made it a one-off, freak event."

Cleverly, who fought on the undercard of Joe Calzaghe's 2008 showdown with Bernard Hopkins in Vegas, says the magnitude of this fight eclipses any he has previously been involved with.

"It is one of these once in a blue moon fantasy fights that come along once in a generation," he said.

"My fight could be the real fight of the night and I'm looking to capitalise on that.

"The occasion is massive, the magnitude and the scale of the event, we are privileged to be on this event, it is a great opportunity. I am aware of the global scale of it, of the viewership.

"The fight has captured everyone's imagination and I think even though it is not a true boxing fight, for me, selfishly, I am glad of the opportunity it gives me, it is great exposure for everyone involved."

Explaining that he does not believe McGregor has a chance, Cleverly added that the Irish boxer "does not deserve," the opportunity he has, but credits him for taking his chance.

"An MMA specialist coming over, boxing is not his main field, so I believe an upset is not on the cards," he said.

"It is a fight, anything can happen, but realistically? Mayweather is too good.

"Does he deserve this opportunity in boxing? No.

"But can you blame him for making it happen and combining with Mayweather to make it happen? No you cannot and fair play to him for the work put in, inside and outside the gym to capture the public's imagination."

Cleverly says the exposure of facing Jack, a Swedish boxer based in Vegas, gives him a chance to enter boxing's 'elite' level as he targets a potential future fight with Andre Ward.

"I've been very patient and I am the current world champion, that puts me in a strong position and I knew sooner or later this fight would be made," he said.

"On an exposure level, in the hierarchy of boxing this fight is exceptionally important. In terms of breaking into that elite level, this is the most important fight of my career."

Cleverly said he feels he has a significant advantage over his opponent, a former super middleweight world champion who beat George Groves and drew last time out with James DeGale as he prepares to face a British boxer for a third time.

"I am a seasoned campaigner at light heavyweight, but this is Jack's first fight at the weight and he will realise in the ring, half a stone is a jump up, it makes a difference," added Cleverly.

"I see it going the distance, potentially, neither of us are KO artists, we both punch hard, maybe a stoppage victory is more possible.

"But the win is the crucial aspect here."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/wales/40953147