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    Default Re: Are the Beatles overrated?

    From the age of 3 I was obsessed with Queen, I mean full on obsessed, I point blank refused to listen to anything else...other than David Bowie (Ziggy Stardust) and that was only because he did Under Pressure, therefore I classed him as a friend of the band.

    At the age of 11 I think it would have been, I heard Live Forever by Oasis, that changed my life, all of a sudden I had 2 bands in my life, Queen and Oasis, listening to interviews with Oasis in the early days it was Beatles this, Beatles that, Lennon = God etc

    When my mom and dad left for work in the morning whilst I was getting myself ready for school I thought I would go crazy and see what was so great about these beetle dudes, I put revolver on, my head just wouldn't acclimatize to it, I mean Tomorrow Never Knows, Eleanor Rigby, Love You To, it ain't the sort of thing you expect a 12 year old to get.

    I persevered with that album for fucking ages and just couldn't get it, at the time in my head it was obviously their best album purely because of the cover, I mean Rubber Soul, Abbey Road etc just looked boring (we didn't have Sgt Peppers on CD)

    After about 2 months of trying to force myself to enjoy Revolver I thought I'd stick Abbey Road on...FUCK ME did my whole world changed within the space of 4 songs, Come Together, Something, Maxwells Silver Hammer, Oh Darling, I was fucking hooked, Revolver made sense, Oasis made sense, Queen made sense, Bowie made sense, the fucking universe itself made sense, I was fucking blown away, by the end of the 4th track I had to go to school, I couldn't get it out of my head, I couldn't tell my mom n dad that I was listening to it, that was embarrassing ''Oh by the way mom, dad, I've been listening to that old shit that you have on CD'' I thought I would have been laughed out of the house

    I used to practically push my mom out of the front door in the morning so I could blast the first 4 tracks of Abbey Road, then I managed to hit the skip button and slowly worked my way through the rest of the album, then I did Revolver (properly) and then Rubber Soul, then A Hard Days Night etc, about 12 months later my dad said 'you should listen to The Beatles if you like Oasis so much, at this point it was just a thing, before school it was Beatles time, it was my time, I just said 'oh I do, I always listen to them' he just shrugged his shoulders and walked off.

    Once I'd exhausted The Beatles I worked my way around everyone, The Kinks, The Small Faces, Dusty Springfield, The Who, The Beach Boys, at this time I was getting into the heavier stuff in a big way as well Zeppelin, Sabbath etc

    All in all without The Beatles I probably would have got sucked into that black hole of music that is dance or trance or whatever, yeah The Beatles made me an outcast at school cuz I never got Alice Deejay or ATB - Till I come, but where music was concerned I was the happiest outcast around.

    I'm 32 now and The Beatles are still number 3 on my most played bands on Last FM (number one is the Drive By Truckers, number two is Nick Cave)

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    Oh Queen is fucking epic! Bowie was amazing, The Kinks, hell the entire British Invasion of the 1960's was amazing so much talent!


    Spencer Davis - Gimme Some Lovin' is one of the greatest individual records ever made. By the way, Steve Winwood, AMAZING talent so underrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Oh Queen is fucking epic! Bowie was amazing, The Kinks, hell the entire British Invasion of the 1960's was amazing so much talent!


    Spencer Davis - Gimme Some Lovin' is one of the greatest individual records ever made. By the way, Steve Winwood, AMAZING talent so underrated.
    I disagree slightly there El Kabs, anyone who knows anything about music classes Stevie Winwood pretty highly, I mean just listen to the Blind Faith album, if you can listen to Blind Faith live at Hyde Park, it's fucking great, I certainly don't think he's underrated amongst the crowd that matters.

    I suppose you could say the same about Paul Rogers the people who know music know how good he is the people who don't know music don't know him but they don't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Oh Queen is fucking epic! Bowie was amazing, The Kinks, hell the entire British Invasion of the 1960's was amazing so much talent!


    Spencer Davis - Gimme Some Lovin' is one of the greatest individual records ever made. By the way, Steve Winwood, AMAZING talent so underrated.
    I disagree slightly there El Kabs, anyone who knows anything about music classes Stevie Winwood pretty highly, I mean just listen to the Blind Faith album, if you can listen to Blind Faith live at Hyde Park, it's fucking great, I certainly don't think he's underrated amongst the crowd that matters.

    I suppose you could say the same about Paul Rogers the people who know music know how good he is the people who don't know music don't know him but they don't matter.
    Well there's the thing, by musicians he's not underrated, by fans on the other hand he doesn't get mentioned as often as he should.

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    I also remember when I was at school and we were going through the obligitury music history and the the teacher asked the class to name all 4 of the beatles, fucking smug she was, of course everyone got Lennon, McCartney and old Dingo Starr, no one knew poor old George, so I called out from my seat 'George Harrison' she looked shocked and said well done.

    Next question she asked was 'can anyone name a Beatles song' of course the odd person in the class called out 'let it be' yellow submarine' hard days night' and all the songs that everyone knows, once everyone was scratching their heads I called out 'Blue Jay Way' teacher looked at me and said 'no Lee that isn't a Beatles song' so I called out 'I've just seen a face' she didn't even answer me, someone called out 'HEY JUDE' teacher clapped like a fucking seal 'well done yes thats a beatles song' so I called out 'Rocky Racoon' she didn't answer me, someone else called out 'IMAGINE' she jumped up and down and said 'YES WELL DONE'

    I shouted out 'Blue jay way is off the magical mystery tour album and I've just seen a face is off the Help album...and imagine isn't even by the fucking beatles'

    she told me to stand outside for the rest of the lesson...I was probably about 14 at the time, I knew more about music than the person teaching me music.

    yeah this is the same school that shouted at me for reading a book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    I also remember when I was at school and we were going through the obligitury music history and the the teacher asked the class to name all 4 of the beatles, fucking smug she was, of course everyone got Lennon, McCartney and old Dingo Starr, no one knew poor old George, so I called out from my seat 'George Harrison' she looked shocked and said well done.

    Next question she asked was 'can anyone name a Beatles song' of course the odd person in the class called out 'let it be' yellow submarine' hard days night' and all the songs that everyone knows, once everyone was scratching their heads I called out 'Blue Jay Way' teacher looked at me and said 'no Lee that isn't a Beatles song' so I called out 'I've just seen a face' she didn't even answer me, someone called out 'HEY JUDE' teacher clapped like a fucking seal 'well done yes thats a beatles song' so I called out 'Rocky Racoon' she didn't answer me, someone else called out 'IMAGINE' she jumped up and down and said 'YES WELL DONE'

    I shouted out 'Blue jay way is off the magical mystery tour album and I've just seen a face is off the Help album...and imagine isn't even by the fucking beatles'

    she told me to stand outside for the rest of the lesson...I was probably about 14 at the time, I knew more about music than the person teaching me music.

    yeah this is the same school that shouted at me for reading a book.
    Hahaha poor ol' Batman

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
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    I also remember when I was at school and we were going through the obligitury music history and the the teacher asked the class to name all 4 of the beatles, fucking smug she was, of course everyone got Lennon, McCartney and old Dingo Starr, no one knew poor old George, so I called out from my seat 'George Harrison' she looked shocked and said well done.

    Next question she asked was 'can anyone name a Beatles song' of course the odd person in the class called out 'let it be' yellow submarine' hard days night' and all the songs that everyone knows, once everyone was scratching their heads I called out 'Blue Jay Way' teacher looked at me and said 'no Lee that isn't a Beatles song' so I called out 'I've just seen a face' she didn't even answer me, someone called out 'HEY JUDE' teacher clapped like a fucking seal 'well done yes thats a beatles song' so I called out 'Rocky Racoon' she didn't answer me, someone else called out 'IMAGINE' she jumped up and down and said 'YES WELL DONE'

    I shouted out 'Blue jay way is off the magical mystery tour album and I've just seen a face is off the Help album...and imagine isn't even by the fucking beatles'

    she told me to stand outside for the rest of the lesson...I was probably about 14 at the time, I knew more about music than the person teaching me music.

    yeah this is the same school that shouted at me for reading a book.
    Hahaha poor ol' Batman

    You mock me but that school is the main reason I am the way that I am today, I never had any problems with the other kids, it was the teachers they were inept, The ones that should have taken me under their wing (music and English especially and probably science and history as well) felt intimidated by me, they were probably relieved when they heard that little batman was getting off his cape on vodka at the age of 14

    My school was fucking terrible, it was that bad that in the summer they used to just cancel school uniform, I used to wear a Villa shirt to school and it was allowed, people rocked up in trackie B's and it was the norm, if I could change one thing about my life it would be the school I went to

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    completely off subject I know but I've had a wee drink so I'm gunna have a ramble as well

    I get rather possessive over music, I don't begrudge anyone professing to be a big Beatles fan or Queen fan but it really fucks me off these days when you get the greatest hits fans, music is so readily available that people don't put the effort into discovering a band in its entirety these days, for instance I mentioned Nick Cave to a mate at work and he said 'I've not heard of him, I'll listen to him tonight' he came into work the next day and said 'yeah I downloaded his discography, I don't like him' I replied 'well that's fair enough so you've deleted him off your iPod then' and he said 'nah I'm keeping it all on there, I'm not going to delete it'

    and the only reason he keeps it (probably till this day) is just in case anyone mentions Nick Cave he can turn around and say 'yeah I've got loads of his stuff' even though he's never listened to a fucking song

    Back in the day when I was buying 3 or 4 CD's a week he would feign interest in the band so I would do a copy of the album for him, after a while he asked me to burn him a cd (I can't remember what album broke the camels back) and I told him NO he asked why and I told him that I had worked it out and I'd given him something like £80 worth of music in 4 weeks, he couldn't comprehend why I was pissed off and actually said 'it doesn't cost you anything to put it onto disc and you have already paid for it so whats the harm' I tried to tell him that I would give him a list of CD's that he could buy and then burn them all for me for free and he laughed and said no chance, even then he didn't understand why I was pissed off.

    Its funny because it got to the point when I would buy a CD put it on my iPod and then just give it away, I miss having the anticipation of waiting for an album and obsessing over the booklet and reading the lyrics and shit like that, these days its released its downloaded and its gone

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    ​Who are the Beatles?
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    I just checked them out on YouTube as I'm not always au fait with up and coming new bands.

    They all look very young, and it seems like simple stripped down music to me, lots of guitar and catchy choruses.

    To be honest, I think they sound and look a bit like an Oasis tribute, so I'm not really sure they will last long.
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    Monkees were better than the Beatles. They were very much underrated.

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    @Batman not a good argument. just bcuz someone does a cover song doesnt mean they were "influenced" by the artist. Big deal, a cover. Maybe the concert promoters said "do a few tunes from sgt pepper" which had just come out". So what. Maybe he just did it to please the crowd/sell tickets/....INfluenced my ass. Name any songs by Hendrix ----ANY---- which sound even remotely like he was influenced by the Beatles you mad balloon. Oh yeah maybe this one you moonbat:



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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    @Batman not a good argument. just bcuz someone does a cover song doesnt mean they were "influenced" by the artist. Big deal, a cover. Maybe the concert promoters said "do a few tunes from sgt pepper" which had just come out". So what. Maybe he just did it to please the crowd/sell tickets/....INfluenced my ass. Name any songs by Hendrix ----ANY---- which sound even remotely like he was influenced by the Beatles you mad balloon. Oh yeah maybe this one you moonbat:
    “Jimi was a sweetie, a very nice guy. I remember him opening at the Saville on a Sunday night, 4th June 1967. Brian Epstein used to rent it when it was usually dark on the Sunday. Jimi opened, the curtains flew back and he came walking forward, playing 'Sgt. Pepper', and it had only been released on the Thursday so that was like the ultimate compliment. It's still obviously a shining memory for me, because I admired him so much anyway, he was so accomplished. To think that that album had meant so much to him as to actually do it by the Sunday night, three days after the release. He must have been so into it, because normally it might take a day for rehearsal and then you might wonder whether you'd put it in, but he just opened with it. It's a pretty major compliment in anyone's book. I put that down as one of the great honours of my career. I mean, I'm sure he wouldn't have thought of it as an honour, I'm sure he thought it was the other way round, but to me that was like a great boost.” – Paul McCartney.
    Jimi Hendrix, The Beatles and The Influence Of Sgt. Pepper's

    The date is June 4, 1967. The place is the Saville Theater, in London. In the audience that night are Paul McCartney and George Harrison of The Beatles. This is what they saw....

    https://youtu.be/HLEboBA-Xzk
    The video is Jimi Hendrix playing "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band". That wouldn't be so unusual except The Beatles recording of the song had been released just three days before.

    Hendrix had released "Are You Experienced" a few weeks earlier. His legendary performance at the Monterey Pop Festival was two weeks away. Although a lot of the public was not yet familiar with him, Hendrix was already getting a reputation as one of the greatest and most innovative guitarists in the world. And there was a developing mutual admiration between Jimi and The Beatles.Sgt. Pepper' audaciously saluted in 1967

    Jimi Hendrix made a public display of his admiration for The Beatles when their seminal classic ’Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band’ was released during the ’Summer of Love’ in 1967.

    Purchasing the record on the day of its release, he performed the title track just two days later at the Saville Theatre in London’s Shaftesbury Avenue.

    Unbeknown to Hendrix, some of The Beatles were actually in the audience, listening intently to his audacious performance.

    Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/music/jimi-h...7ZxJ82DA57j.99
    It wasn't the only Beatle tune in his catalog. He also did versions of "Tomorrow Never Knows" and "Daytripper."
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    Just because Mark TKO thinks Elvis was "overrated"




    There's 4 Beatles but there's only 1 King baby and he had more talent in his little finger.....





    than entire record labels have.

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    Elvis couldn't even write his own material. He was overrated. As a closer comparative Orbison was a better writer, singer and musician. Elvis was good looking, that was his simple schtick. Take away that and he was nobody.

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