Anthony Joshua v Carlos Takam 28 October 2017

[Master]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

[erics44]

Haye doesn't need to fight anyone if AJ agrees to fight him

and its big money so theres a possibility

itd be bigger if he beat bellew in a rematch mind

[Master]

Haye doesn't need to fight anyone if AJ agrees to fight him

and its big money so theres a possibility

itd be bigger if he beat bellew in a rematch mind

Would it? Haye is going to try and sell the AJ fight on his past performances and will conveniently for get the Bellew fight.

[erics44]

Haye doesn't need to fight anyone if AJ agrees to fight him

and its big money so theres a possibility

itd be bigger if he beat bellew in a rematch mind

Would it? Haye is going to try and sell the AJ fight on his past performances and will conveniently for get the Bellew fight.

maybe maybe not

either way its a big earner for both so its load of rubbish when people saying Haye needs to do this and he needs to do that

[Master]

Haye doesn't need to fight anyone if AJ agrees to fight him

and its big money so theres a possibility

itd be bigger if he beat bellew in a rematch mind

Would it? Haye is going to try and sell the AJ fight on his past performances and will conveniently for get the Bellew fight.

maybe maybe not

either way its a big earner for both so its load of rubbish when people saying Haye needs to do this and he needs to do that

This is an easy fight for AJ now, Haye would lose within a couple of rounds now. Haye has also done nothing to deserve the fight. AJ should not give Haye the time.

[erics44]

Haye doesn't need to fight anyone if AJ agrees to fight him

and its big money so theres a possibility

itd be bigger if he beat bellew in a rematch mind

Would it? Haye is going to try and sell the AJ fight on his past performances and will conveniently for get the Bellew fight.

maybe maybe not

either way its a big earner for both so its load of rubbish when people saying Haye needs to do this and he needs to do that

This is an easy fight for AJ now, Haye would lose within a couple of rounds now. Haye has also done nothing to deserve the fight. AJ should not give Haye the time.

taking away his name is david haye and he is still a massive draw in England

how many times have current champions at any weight had a defence against x champions when the x champions have past it

then add in to the equation Big Name X Champion

its not unusual is it? a voluntary that will get noticed and raise his profile

then add the fact that the fight will generate millions

and I think if haye replays and beats bellew then the last 4 or so years will be forgotten by many, so it will generate even more bish

[Master]

Haye doesn't need to fight anyone if AJ agrees to fight him

and its big money so theres a possibility

itd be bigger if he beat bellew in a rematch mind

Would it? Haye is going to try and sell the AJ fight on his past performances and will conveniently for get the Bellew fight.

maybe maybe not

either way its a big earner for both so its load of rubbish when people saying Haye needs to do this and he needs to do that

This is an easy fight for AJ now, Haye would lose within a couple of rounds now. Haye has also done nothing to deserve the fight. AJ should not give Haye the time.

taking away his name is david haye and he is still a massive draw in England

how many times have current champions at any weight had a defence against x champions when the x champions have past it

then add in to the equation Big Name X Champion

its not unusual is it? a voluntary that will get noticed and raise his profile

then add the fact that the fight will generate millions

and I think if haye replays and beats bellew then the last 4 or so years will be forgotten by many, so it will generate even more bish

I think Haye is so "shot" that he may not even be able to beat Bellew at heavyweight. I think Haye is injury prone and any decent fighter that can take his bombs early has a good chance to beat him as Haye is liable to injure himself.

[GaMo]

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Most people think that Holyfield did enough to beat Valuev
But he was probably ranked in the top five when Haye beat him.

Ruiz was 3-3 in his last six fights coming in against Haye
So he certainly wasn’t top five. Barrett was also 3-3 in his last six
And Chisora was 1-3 in his last four!

[Master]

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Most people think that Holyfield did enough to beat Valuev
But he was probably ranked in the top five when Haye beat him.

Ruiz was 3-3 in his last six fights coming in against Haye
So he certainly wasn’t top five. Barrett was also 3-3 in his last six
And Chisora was 1-3 in his last four!

I did say at a stretch.

Although I do believe Ruiz genuinely believed he could beat Haye as he came at a career low weight which showed he was motivated to beat what he must have believed was a blown up cruiserweight. That idea went all to pot when he was knocked down in the first round.

[GaMo]

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Most people think that Holyfield did enough to beat Valuev
But he was probably ranked in the top five when Haye beat him.

Ruiz was 3-3 in his last six fights coming in against Haye
So he certainly wasn’t top five. Barrett was also 3-3 in his last six
And Chisora was 1-3 in his last four!

I did say at a stretch.

Although I do believe Ruiz genuinely believed he could beat Haye as he came at a career low weight which showed he was motivated to beat what he must have believed was a blown up cruiserweight. That idea went all to pot when he was knocked down in the first round.

Ruiz is famous for losing his title to a middleweight.

I loved his fight with Tua though

[Ron Swanson]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

[Master]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

I said I was not going to defend Haye, so I am not going to start now.

Name 5 that were rated higher at the time?

[Ron Swanson]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

I said I was not going to defend Haye, so I am not going to start now.

Name 5 that were rated higher at the time?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev(who had already beaten Valuev)
David Haye
Alexander Povetkin
Denis Boytsov
Chris Arreola

And of course Evan Fields who had just beaten him.

[Master]

Funny to hear "Haye needs to fight a top 5 heavyweight", Wlad was the only top 5 heavyweight he ever fought. He's going to start now? Nope

Not that I want to defend Haye, but I am sure Valuev and maybe at a stretch Ruiz were top 5 in their day.

Ruiz? GTFOOH with that nonsense. He was a bum by the time Haye fought him as evidenced by his never fighting again. Or evidenced by his 4 losses in his previous 7 fights.

Which of Valuev's losses moved him into your top 5, his loss to Chagaev or his loss to Oldyfield coming into the Haye fight? Values was a fraud, everyone knew it and that's why Haye fought him. Easy belt that Valuev shouldn't have have. He didn't beat Chagaev to get it handed back to him and he didn't beat Evan Fields.

I said I was not going to defend Haye, so I am not going to start now.

Name 5 that were rated higher at the time?

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Eddie Chambers
Ruslan Chagaev(who had already beaten Valuev)
David Haye
Alexander Povetkin
Denis Boytsov
Chris Arreola

And of course Evan Fields who had just beaten him.

Only can give you the Klit brothers and Chagaev ahead of Valuev at the time Haye fought him.

[El Kabong]

Joshua should handle Pulev very easily, should be over in a few rounds really.

Wilder-Ortiz should be a good fight, SHOULD be, but for whatever reason I am not confident it will actually happen. Should the fight happen there's a good chance (only good) that Ortiz lures Wilder in and bombs him out a la a fight Wilder's trainer should know very much about Mark Breland vs Marlon Starling.



As for Tyson Fury, he's no longer a boxer, he's a drug addict and fat ass sooooo yeah no one cares what he's saying