Before Wilder/Joshua...

[Alpha]

Yeah marinating is sh-t, building towards a fight though I can understand. Aj/ Pulev winner vs Wilder/ Ortiz winner makes for a good fight. Or the current Cruiser and Super Middle tournaments that will lead to the last 2 (4) fighting leads to hopefully an exciting anticipated match up. Thing with the tournaments tho is we know we will get the winners fighting (barring injuries). With marinating there's no real guarantee.

[Fenster]

Yeah marinating is sh-t, building towards a fight though I can understand. Aj/ Pulev winner vs Wilder/ Ortiz winner makes for a good fight. Or the current Cruiser and Super Middle tournaments that will lead to the last 2 (4) fighting leads to hopefully an exciting anticipated match up. Thing with the tournaments tho is we know we will get the winners fighting (barring injuries). With marinating there's no real guarantee.

Yeah a big difference. Dopey fans constantly complain about the sport yet peddle out every promoter/fighter excuse in the book to prevent the best fights being made.

The notion that millionaire "world" champions are not ready to face their fellow millionaire "world" champions is beyond MORONIC.

Fighters fight.
Promoters sell.
Hardcore/nerds want the best possible fights.
And casual fans are obsessed with money, bling and PPV.

[Batman]

@Master why are you editing my posts?

To be fair I dunno what you have changed but it says that you have changed something.

Explain yourself immediately or face the consequences

[Dark Lord Al]

Wilder is turning into a Bowe style champion , lazy and easy fights.
We all just want to see the best fight the best.

[Spicoli]

Wilder is turning into a Bowe style champion , lazy and easy fights.
We all just want to see the best fight the best.

As much as I think Bowe peaked in roughly 2 or 3 fights I don't think Wilder is fit to fold his shorts. In 6 yrs and same same amount of wins Bowe was essentially done, but compared to Wilder he fought very good competition. Sometimes . The Dokes fight was a shat show gimme for the hometown New York bwoy but he did agree to fight top ranked Mercer. Before Mercer went all whispering into the ear of Fergusson and blew the opportunity of a lifetime. Enter Fergusson on a technicality.

Crap so I had to check myself...Wilder v Ortiz is a done deal! Have to credit both for stepping up there. Finally!

[Fenster]

I can't envisage Wilder making it out the 2nd round against Bowe. Well maybe he could last into the nah...

[Dark Lord Al]

Wilder is turning into a Bowe style champion , lazy and easy fights.
We all just want to see the best fight the best.

As much as I think Bowe peaked in roughly 2 or 3 fights I don't think Wilder is fit to fold his shorts. In 6 yrs and same same amount of wins Bowe was essentially done, but compared to Wilder he fought very good competition. Sometimes . The Dokes fight was a shat show gimme for the hometown New York bwoy but he did agree to fight top ranked Mercer. Before Mercer went all whispering into the ear of Fergusson and blew the opportunity of a lifetime. Enter Fergusson on a technicality.

Crap so I had to check myself...Wilder v Ortiz is a done deal! Have to credit both for stepping up there. Finally!

Just to clear up I didn't compare Wlider to Bowe as a fighter , I compared his title reign.
Wilder for all his faults keeps winning so lets just see him in with a live body.

[Primo Carnera]

But before ppv, promoters and TV companies were taking virtually all of the money, albeit a smaller pot.
I'm no fan of the ridiculous PPV worthy fights that are made, but
A. At least the fighters are getting better taken care of. And I don't just mean money. Medical care, safety, etc. and
B. What can we do about it? The only thing is boycott them and turn your back on it. But what do you do? For example, You talk about Floyd more than anyone! This makes him relevant
and although you may not buy his fights , the guy you are arguing with will! And other people will see the debate and think "I'm gonna have to watch this to see how it pans out!"
So there you have it @Master, it's all YOUR FUCKING FAULT!!! 😎

[Master]

@Master why are you editing my posts?

To be fair I dunno what you have changed but it says that you have changed something.

Explain yourself immediately or face the consequences

I was waiting for your post to marinate.

[Batman]

@Master why are you editing my posts?

To be fair I dunno what you have changed but it says that you have changed something.

Explain yourself immediately or face the consequences

I was waiting for your post to marinate.

[Master]

@Master why are you editing my posts?

To be fair I dunno what you have changed but it says that you have changed something.

Explain yourself immediately or face the consequences

I was waiting for your post to marinate.

[GaMo]

No and he isnt a big attraction either, that is why he usually fights in alabama. Wilder v Josua certainly won't break any ppv records in america, maybe britain, it is possible it wouldn't even be on ppv, boxing popularity is certainly on the slide in north america, i dont think wilder will ever be a ppv star in america unless he wins all four belts and even then......

That’s what I thought. Every time I see Wilder fight he is fighting in Alabama or somewhere that isn’t really known for Boxing (not Vegas or the Garden) It’s strange that America have an unbeaten heavyweight champion and nobody gives a fuck about him. I actually like Wilder and there’s no fight I’d rather see happen than him against AJ. It’ll break PPV records over here but it won’t knock Mayweather off the top in America.

If AJ & Wilder come through victorious in their next fights then it should be a sell out in the UK. Parker is the odd man out here but might sneak in 1st.

They should fight as soon as possible because if the fights good we could always see a rematch. These guys wait too long before fighting each other and that takes away the possibility of them fighting multiple times. Parker isn’t a factor for me, I think Povetkin and Ortiz would both stop him.

[Alpha]

No and he isnt a big attraction either, that is why he usually fights in alabama. Wilder v Josua certainly won't break any ppv records in america, maybe britain, it is possible it wouldn't even be on ppv, boxing popularity is certainly on the slide in north america, i dont think wilder will ever be a ppv star in america unless he wins all four belts and even then......

That’s what I thought. Every time I see Wilder fight he is fighting in Alabama or somewhere that isn’t really known for Boxing (not Vegas or the Garden) It’s strange that America have an unbeaten heavyweight champion and nobody gives a fuck about him. I actually like Wilder and there’s no fight I’d rather see happen than him against AJ. It’ll break PPV records over here but it won’t knock Mayweather off the top in America.

If AJ & Wilder come through victorious in their next fights then it should be a sell out in the UK. Parker is the odd man out here but might sneak in 1st.

They should fight as soon as possible because if the fights good we could always see a rematch. These guys wait too long before fighting each other and that takes away the possibility of them fighting multiple times. Parker isn’t a factor for me, I think Povetkin and Ortiz would both stop him.

You could be right but he does have a belt, the fight may also be easier to make than Wilder. Funny thing is I think both those guys also stop Wilder.

[GaMo]

No and he isnt a big attraction either, that is why he usually fights in alabama. Wilder v Josua certainly won't break any ppv records in america, maybe britain, it is possible it wouldn't even be on ppv, boxing popularity is certainly on the slide in north america, i dont think wilder will ever be a ppv star in america unless he wins all four belts and even then......

That’s what I thought. Every time I see Wilder fight he is fighting in Alabama or somewhere that isn’t really known for Boxing (not Vegas or the Garden) It’s strange that America have an unbeaten heavyweight champion and nobody gives a fuck about him. I actually like Wilder and there’s no fight I’d rather see happen than him against AJ. It’ll break PPV records over here but it won’t knock Mayweather off the top in America.

If AJ & Wilder come through victorious in their next fights then it should be a sell out in the UK. Parker is the odd man out here but might sneak in 1st.

They should fight as soon as possible because if the fights good we could always see a rematch. These guys wait too long before fighting each other and that takes away the possibility of them fighting multiple times. Parker isn’t a factor for me, I think Povetkin and Ortiz would both stop him.

You could be right but he does have a belt, the fight may also be easier to make than Wilder. Funny thing is I think both those guys also stop Wilder.

Well Povetkin had his chance to fight Wilder in Russia but couldn't make it to the fight drug free so that's his problem not Wilders.