Can GGG get any better?

**imp** · 09-18-2017 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Master

Golovkin is slowing down and not as effective cutting down the ring.

He really is Hagler now some young active boxer will beat him in the very near future.

A young active fighter beat him
Last night in a very close fight.

**Master** · 09-18-2017 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by imp

Originally Posted by Master

Golovkin is slowing down and not as effective cutting down the ring.

He really is Hagler now some young active boxer will beat him in the very near future.

A young active fighter beat him
Last night in a very close fight.

No Canelo did not. Ironically Saul tried to do what Leonard did against Hagler which was to steal rounds with eye catching punches but really Golovkin was doing the effective work and landing the better point scoring punches.

**Gandalf** · 09-18-2017 01:21 AM

I thought Golovkins output was better than against Jacobs this time out and to be fair he outlanded Canelo in all but one round and landed over 50 more blows. The only weakness really was that he started very tense. I am not sold on a rematch, but if it was to happen in the next 6 months I see it going the same way, but maybe a little more urgency from Golovkin. He knows Canelo fights only in spurts and knows his style now. I liked how GGG took most of Canelo's shots on the arms too. A tighter defence than we have seen recently. It took a few rounds to figure it out, but Golovkin is the one who made the adjustments and showed the better ring IQ. However, in saying that Golovkin has a style that won't last another half decade. He has 3 fights left and should make them count. That is one reason I am not sure he really owes Canelo a rematch. Jacobs sure, but this wasn't that close.

**Master** · 09-18-2017 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Gandalf

I thought Golovkins output was better than against Jacobs this time out and to be fair he outlanded Canelo in all but one round and landed over 50 more blows. The only weakness really was that he started very tense. I am not sold on a rematch, but if it was to happen in the next 6 months I see it going the same way, but maybe a little more urgency from Golovkin. He knows Canelo fights only in spurts and knows his style now. I liked how GGG took most of Canelo's shots on the arms too. A tighter defence than we have seen recently. It took a few rounds to figure it out, but Golovkin is the one who made the adjustments and showed the better ring IQ. However, in saying that Golovkin has a style that won't last another half decade. He has 3 fights left and should make them count. That is one reason I am not sure he really owes Canelo a rematch. Jacobs sure, but this wasn't that close.

Well wrote. Few appreciate the subtle technical skills Golovkin has, he made Canelo gas out and stay on the ropes. Golovkin just outpointed him from there.

**imp** · 09-18-2017 01:36 AM

Canelo had to fight GGG that way and no one should be surprised he was on his bike picking his moments.

GGG could get better in the rematch by perhaps going to the body early?

**GaMo** · 09-18-2017 01:41 AM

He's been given two gifts in a row now. He lost last night and he probably lost against Jacobs (the only two good fighters he's fought) it's no surprise he wouldn't go up to 168 and fight Ward.

**imp** · 09-18-2017 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by GaMo

He's been given two gifts in a row now. He lost last night and he probably lost against Jacobs (the only two good fighters he's fought) it's no surprise he wouldn't go up to 168 and fight Ward.

I can't bash GGG as he has dominated the division.

He beat Jacobs in my eyes and lost
7-5 last night against Canelo.

In the rematch, I see GGG being even hungrier for the win but it must take place ASAP considering the age factor.

**GaMo** · 09-18-2017 02:15 AM

All Canelo needs to do is be more active. GGG will only get older and Alvarez will only get better. The rematch will be easily won by Canelo as we saw the best of GGG last night and it was not impressive.

**GAME** · 09-18-2017 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by GaMo

He's been given two gifts in a row now. He lost last night and he probably lost against Jacobs (the only two good fighters he's fought) it's no surprise he wouldn't go up to 168 and fight Ward.

Ward is a light heavyweight. It's like saying Why doesn't Ward jump up two weights to fight Joshua?

Both jacobs and Canelo failed in their attempts vs a washed up 35 year old. Both guys ran and were scared of the power. Back to caneloweight for Alvarez vs guys more on his level. He tried stepping up to win the titles but came up short and his own fans bood him for not fighting like a Mexican. Tragic night for his career vs an old man

**GaMo** · 09-19-2017 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by GAME

Originally Posted by GaMo

He's been given two gifts in a row now. He lost last night and he probably lost against Jacobs (the only two good fighters he's fought) it's no surprise he wouldn't go up to 168 and fight Ward.

Ward is a light heavyweight. It's like saying Why doesn't Ward jump up two weights to fight Joshua?

Both jacobs and Canelo failed in their attempts vs a washed up 35 year old. Both guys ran and were scared of the power. Back to caneloweight for Alvarez vs guys more on his level. He tried stepping up to win the titles but came up short and his own fans bood him for not fighting like a Mexican. Tragic night for his career vs an old man

Ward was at 168 when he called out Golovkin.

**Memphis** · 09-19-2017 01:48 AM

Surely the real question is can Canelo get any better? What Golovkin did by consensus was good enough to win the fight and win it pretty handily. It's Canelo that needs to find a bit more, but from where? Unless Golovkin deteriorates rapidly, Canelo now knows what every sane person knew going into the fight. There aint a cat in hells chance of him chinning the fucker, so he needs to go the long way around. His constant back peddling was not of his own doing, he was in retreat for most of the fight because he had no choice. The 35 year old who they hoped would be a little more shop worn, had too much engine for him and he couldnt compete.

It's Canelo that needs to make changes. Or.......do what they've been doing for the past couple of years and hope Golovkin fades enough to get the win at the second attempt.

**Gandalf** · 09-18-2017 01:44 AM

I think he should have invested in the body. I also think he was wary of doing it because of Canelo's handspeed and ability to counter. Think he realises now that Canelo is there to the body and he did start doing it more in the second half, but it would have been better to start faster and invest in that early on.

It's scary to think that on the 3 cards overall Canelo won more rounds. It has no connection with reality and suggests the rematch clause was there to be taken up no matter what. DLH was moaning like mad about the Mayweather fight, but Golden Boy/Canelo's cards are just as much a stain on the sport.