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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    GGG should not be penalised for not moving up in weight. Hagler stayed at middleweight and dominated smaller opponents too but built a great legacy.
    Ward should not be penalised for staying at 168.

    He could have stayed there and crushed the Degale, groves and Jacks of this world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    GGG should not be penalised for not moving up in weight. Hagler stayed at middleweight and dominated smaller opponents too but built a great legacy.
    Ward should not be penalised for staying at 168.

    He could have stayed there and crushed the Degale, groves and Jacks of this world.
    I have not penalised him, it was a great victory to beat big bad Kovalev. A mark of a great fighter.
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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Let's Stop crying Robbery..

    Too much moaning about last nights fight when the corrupt judge made the mistake in the wide scores but not the choice of opponent.

    Do you consider any of these recent fights a robbery?

    Pac vs Bradley 1?
    Pac vs Horn?
    Ward vs Kovalev 1?
    Degale vs Jack?!

    In all your saddo experience as a fan or boxer, what fights have you seen that has been a complete and utter robbery that have left you completely disgusted.

    Give me a breakdown of your definition of what makes a robbery in a boxing match.
    Pac vs Bradley 1? - I didn't agree with the result
    Pac vs Horn? - I wouldn't argue with this one
    Ward vs Kovalev 1? - a little fortunate to go to ward, more like a draw
    Degale vs Jack?! - the correct result, six rounds each easy
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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
    Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
    Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
    I don't need to read his post. I watched the fight and the quality was obviously with Canelo, if you can't see that then you're either blind or stupid (maybe both) GGG was more marked up despite Alvarez wearing winning gloves (aka pillows) that tells you all you need to know.

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    It was an excellent fight. Both guys gave everything. Golovkin won the fight, I say 8,4 . The lady judge had other things on her mind other than watching a great fight.
    Shame, it spoiled a great show.

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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
    Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
    I don't need to read his post. I watched the fight and the quality was obviously with Canelo, if you can't see that then you're either blind or stupid (maybe both) GGG was more marked up despite Alvarez wearing winning gloves (aka pillows) that tells you all you need to know.
    You can not decide who won a fight based on what they looked like at the end of the fight. That is dumb.
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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
    Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
    I don't need to read his post. I watched the fight and the quality was obviously with Canelo, if you can't see that then you're either blind or stupid (maybe both) GGG was more marked up despite Alvarez wearing winning gloves (aka pillows) that tells you all you need to know.
    You can not decide who won a fight based on what they looked like at the end of the fight. That is dumb.
    No but you can see who was landing the better punches. One guys swollen up and the other isn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
    Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
    I don't need to read his post. I watched the fight and the quality was obviously with Canelo, if you can't see that then you're either blind or stupid (maybe both) GGG was more marked up despite Alvarez wearing winning gloves (aka pillows) that tells you all you need to know.
    You can not decide who won a fight based on what they looked like at the end of the fight. That is dumb.
    No but you can see who was landing the better punches. One guys swollen up and the other isn't
    No you can not because you could get a fighter who does not mark up but takes a beating.
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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    68 collected results from fighters/media

    Lennox Lewis - Golovkin
    Paulie Malignaggi - Golovkin
    Austin Trout - Golovkin
    Enzo Macarenelli - Golovkin
    Terence Crawford - Golovkin
    Liam Smith - Golovkin
    Peter Quillin - Golovkin
    Liam Williams - Golovkin
    Ohara Davies - Golovkin
    Luke Campbell - Golovkin
    Dave Coldwell - Golovkin
    Badou Jack - Golovkin
    Kevin Kelly - Golovkin
    Steve Kim - Golovkin
    Doug Fischer - Golovkin
    Ring TV - Golvokin
    Michael Montero - Golovkin
    Joe Rogan - Golovkin
    Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) - Golovkin
    Kovalev - Golvokin
    Chavez Jr - Golovkin
    Danny Jacobs - Golovkin
    Murat Gassiev - Golovkin
    Ed Robinson - Golovkin
    Spencer Fearon - Golovkin
    Johnny Nelson - Golovkin
    James Brady (SB Nation) - Golovkin
    Rosie Perez - Golovkin
    Lou DiBella - Golovkin
    Tony Jeffries - Golovkin
    Martin Samuel (UK Daily Mail) - Golovkin
    Kenny Porter - Golovkin
    Adam Booth - Golovkin

    Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> 118-110 GGG
    Jeff Powell (UK Daily Mail) ----------------> 118-111 GGG
    Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
    Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
    Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
    Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
    Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 GGG
    Sergio Martinez ---------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Amir Khan ---------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Matthew Macklin --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Steve Lillis (BoxNation) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
    Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
    Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
    Josh Taylor --------------------------------> 116-113 GGG
    Joshua Bautsi -----------------------------> 116-113 GGG
    Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
    Caleb Truax -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Gary Locket -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
    MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
    Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
    Joel Diaz ------------------------------------> 115-113 GGG

    De La Hoya - 115-113 Canelo
    Bernard Hopkins - 115-113 Canelo

    Golovkin - 66 votes (97%)
    Canelo - 2 votes (3%)

    This is why scores don't mean anything when determining whether or not an injustice has occurred. You can't possibly justify a draw when NOBODY (two promoters don't count) gave Canelo the fight, you'd expect a MINIMUM of 15% support for Canelo (10 out of 67) and even then it would be a stretch to claim a draw was "fair" considering the figures. But ZERO support?
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