Wow! Andre Ward retires!

[Beanz]

I get the feeling that most of the people posting here are white British which is why Calzaghe is being ranked so highly. If he was African American he'd be getting just as much shit as Ward and Floyd (do on here) but people are bias. Anyone with any sense knows a prime Jones completely embarrasses any version of Calzaghe.

Don't go trusting your feelings then. If Joe Calzaghe was African American he would not be Joe Calzaghe would he? Ward and Floyd don't get shit because they are American or because they are black, there are scores of Black and American fighters whom people love. Floyd was great but he along with Ward is a bit of a dick. You can be born anywhere and still be a dick, which is how you mange despite being British.

[imp]

I can understand people thinking Floyd is a dick but Ward doesn't come across that way..Wards style is just not fan friendly to the majority.

[Memphis]

Ward Calzaghe is a 50/50 fight, got no problem with anyone going one way or the other on that. In terms of resume Ward trumps Calzaghe pretty comfortably in both weight classes for me, it's pretty clear cut. Olympic Gold, Super six, the double over Kovalev.

I'll say this for Joe. He beat a better version of Kessler than Ward or Froch did. Joe took something from Kessler. Not on then scale of Lacy who was stripped bare and sent packing, but he made a dent on him.

[imp]

Some will then counter and say "how good was Jeff Lacy anyway?"

Kessler and Lacy were JC best wins.

Ward had far less professional fights but tougher opponents.

Ward can walk away happy..and so did JC.

[sanatogen]

Some will then counter and say "how good was Jeff Lacy anyway?"

Kessler and Lacy were JC best wins.

Ward had far less professional fights but tougher opponents.

Ward can walk away happy..and so did JC.

"How good was Jeff Lacy anyway?" comes after the fight.

At the time, he was perceived as very dangerous at SM who was going to blow Calzaghe away

[sanatogen]

I get the feeling that most of the people posting here are white British which is why Calzaghe is being ranked so highly. If he was African American he'd be getting just as much shit as Ward and Floyd (do on here) but people are bias. Anyone with any sense knows a prime Jones completely embarrasses any version of Calzaghe.

Don't go trusting your feelings then. If Joe Calzaghe was African American he would not be Joe Calzaghe would he? Ward and Floyd don't get shit because they are American or because they are black, there are scores of Black and American fighters whom people love. Floyd was great but he along with Ward is a bit of a dick. You can be born anywhere and still be a dick, which is how you mange despite being British.

Exactly! I cant wait to see how Rigondeaux performs in December. Finally a match worth of his talents is being made.

[mrbig1]

Smart move to retire. Good luck.