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    Well all I can say is that I'm pleased everyone is joining the knee jerk bandwagon and I hope that gets reflected in the odds in the build up to the fight.
    Talk of Groves having to be perfect. What about Eubank? Doesn't he have to be perfect? And even then he still won't know because he has never fought anybody as good , slick, classy and powerful as Groves.
    I'm not saying Eubank hasn't improved or doesn't stand some sort of chance, but if he ends up being seen as the favourite, I think that might be ridiculous enough for me to have a little punt on Groves.

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    It's a cracking matchup and I hope it happens. A lot of really interesting variables in this one and that is what makes a fight really captivating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Well all I can say is that I'm pleased everyone is joining the knee jerk bandwagon and I hope that gets reflected in the odds in the build up to the fight.
    Talk of Groves having to be perfect. What about Eubank? Doesn't he have to be perfect? And even then he still won't know because he has never fought anybody as good , slick, classy and powerful as Groves.
    I'm not saying Eubank hasn't improved or doesn't stand some sort of chance, but if he ends up being seen as the favourite, I think that might be ridiculous enough for me to have a little punt on Groves.
    Groves needs to be perfect because I don't think he has the stamina or toughness to prevent Jr from hunting him down. Groves can never resist punching with punchers inside either, however, he is normally the faster man. I think Eubank has faster hands and arguably his greatest attribute is whipping flowing combos in on the inside.

    If I priced it up I'd make Eubank the favourite but admittedly that would be ignoring what they've actually proved with potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Well all I can say is that I'm pleased everyone is joining the knee jerk bandwagon and I hope that gets reflected in the odds in the build up to the fight.
    Talk of Groves having to be perfect. What about Eubank? Doesn't he have to be perfect? And even then he still won't know because he has never fought anybody as good , slick, classy and powerful as Groves.
    I'm not saying Eubank hasn't improved or doesn't stand some sort of chance, but if he ends up being seen as the favourite, I think that might be ridiculous enough for me to have a little punt on Groves.
    Groves needs to be perfect because I don't think he has the stamina or toughness to prevent Jr from hunting him down. Groves can never resist punching with punchers inside either, however, he is normally the faster man. I think Eubank has faster hands and arguably his greatest attribute is whipping flowing combos in on the inside.

    If I priced it up I'd make Eubank the favourite but admittedly that would be ignoring what they've actually proved with potential.
    Like I said, it's Eubank who would have to fight the perfect fight and even then he won't know because he's never been in this deep.
    Groves is a technically better boxer than Saunders and Eubank couldn't work him out.
    And if Eubank does leave himself open , which he is prone to, he's gonna get clumped harder than he's ever been hit before. Groves is very heavy handed.
    Eubank may have a tough chin, but they don't come much tougher than Froch and when Groves hit him, he fucking knew about it.

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    I can't put Jr as favourite, granted he looked very very good on the weekend but I still maintain that it is difficult to judge Jr yet

    No one has ever heard of Quinlan, Abraham was at the end of his career and a perfect style for Jr, Yildirim was the perfect style and untested before the fight.

    He may well dismantle Groves with speed and volume but we just don't know yet.

    At present I'm sticking with Groves as favourite but it is a hell of a lot closer than it was before the weekend

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    Groves has to be the favourite.

    Look at the world class opponents he has fought..shame he lost the ones that mattered but he's the world champion now.

    Only issue is when the fight gets to the 8th round..and if Groves can still weather the storm of a younger, fitter Eubanks.
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    I think things are manoeuvring into an advantage Eubank position. I expect Groves to beat Cox but I dont expect it to be a blow out. He's going to have to put a shift in, all miles on the clock. Groves might not be over the hill, but he's clinging onto his best years by his fingernails. His last one was a pearler, he put in a monumental effort to sort out Matt Damon Terminator. I dont know if he can do that again.

    Eubank is approaching his prime, appears to be at one with himself as a fighter and a man rather than some Sugar Ray Clay Jones Jnr caricature of a boxer. He looks fitter and stronger than ever and I think he might just bring too much pressure too consistently for Groves to live with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Well all I can say is that I'm pleased everyone is joining the knee jerk bandwagon and I hope that gets reflected in the odds in the build up to the fight.
    Talk of Groves having to be perfect. What about Eubank? Doesn't he have to be perfect? And even then he still won't know because he has never fought anybody as good , slick, classy and powerful as Groves.
    I'm not saying Eubank hasn't improved or doesn't stand some sort of chance, but if he ends up being seen as the favourite, I think that might be ridiculous enough for me to have a little punt on Groves.
    Groves needs to be perfect because I don't think he has the stamina or toughness to prevent Jr from hunting him down. Groves can never resist punching with punchers inside either, however, he is normally the faster man. I think Eubank has faster hands and arguably his greatest attribute is whipping flowing combos in on the inside.

    If I priced it up I'd make Eubank the favourite but admittedly that would be ignoring what they've actually proved with potential.
    Like I said, it's Eubank who would have to fight the perfect fight and even then he won't know because he's never been in this deep.
    Groves is a technically better boxer than Saunders and Eubank couldn't work him out.
    And if Eubank does leave himself open , which he is prone to, he's gonna get clumped harder than he's ever been hit before. Groves is very heavy handed.
    Eubank may have a tough chin, but they don't come much tougher than Froch and when Groves hit him, he fucking knew about it.
    Groves has 19 KO’s in 29 fights so he’s not the puncher you make him out to be and he’s never stopped anyone worth talking about. He also managed to make Froch look like a Devastating one punch knockout artist so his chin is very questionable. Eubank is the better puncher and he has the better chin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Well all I can say is that I'm pleased everyone is joining the knee jerk bandwagon and I hope that gets reflected in the odds in the build up to the fight.
    Talk of Groves having to be perfect. What about Eubank? Doesn't he have to be perfect? And even then he still won't know because he has never fought anybody as good , slick, classy and powerful as Groves.
    I'm not saying Eubank hasn't improved or doesn't stand some sort of chance, but if he ends up being seen as the favourite, I think that might be ridiculous enough for me to have a little punt on Groves.
    Groves needs to be perfect because I don't think he has the stamina or toughness to prevent Jr from hunting him down. Groves can never resist punching with punchers inside either, however, he is normally the faster man. I think Eubank has faster hands and arguably his greatest attribute is whipping flowing combos in on the inside.

    If I priced it up I'd make Eubank the favourite but admittedly that would be ignoring what they've actually proved with potential.
    Like I said, it's Eubank who would have to fight the perfect fight and even then he won't know because he's never been in this deep.
    Groves is a technically better boxer than Saunders and Eubank couldn't work him out.
    And if Eubank does leave himself open , which he is prone to, he's gonna get clumped harder than he's ever been hit before. Groves is very heavy handed.
    Eubank may have a tough chin, but they don't come much tougher than Froch and when Groves hit him, he fucking knew about it.
    Groves has 19 KO’s in 29 fights so he’s not the puncher you make him out to be and he’s never stopped anyone worth talking about. He also managed to make Froch look like a Devastating one punch knockout artist so his chin is very questionable. Eubank is the better puncher and he has the better chin.
    You can make stats tell you what you want to hear. I prefer to actually see for myself and make an opinion.
    Groves' 19 from 29 ratio is at a muck higher level and therefore more difficult to knock people out.
    Groves would've KO'd all the guys Eubank has.
    Froch's punch was a once in a career punch, all about timing. Not dissimilar to Eubank on Saturday night. It happens. But most of Eubank's KO's are flurries of punches , he doesn't normally one punch KO them himself.
    Groves is too slick and heavy handed enough to give Eubank something to think about.
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    Default Re: Groves vs Eubank Jr

    @Primo Carnera Groves isn’t that slick, Froch had no problem finding him and Carl isn’t that quick (he never found Ward or Dirrell) he only found Taylor when Jermain’s gas tank ran out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    @Primo Carnera Groves isn’t that slick, Froch had no problem finding him and Carl isn’t that quick (he never found Ward or Dirrell) he only found Taylor when Jermain’s gas tank ran out.
    Did you see the Froch v Groves fights? I'm not talking about the KO punch, I'm talking about all 16 or 17 rounds. Don't forget, at the time, Froch was the champ and widely seen as top dog in the division (not counting Ward because he was hibernating) and Groves made him look like a novice for long parts of those fights.
    And if Eubank is so quick , why couldn't he lay a glove on Saunders for 6 rounds?
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