Groves vs Eubank Jr

[GaMo]

Well all I can say is that I'm pleased everyone is joining the knee jerk bandwagon and I hope that gets reflected in the odds in the build up to the fight.
Talk of Groves having to be perfect. What about Eubank? Doesn't he have to be perfect? And even then he still won't know because he has never fought anybody as good , slick, classy and powerful as Groves.
I'm not saying Eubank hasn't improved or doesn't stand some sort of chance, but if he ends up being seen as the favourite, I think that might be ridiculous enough for me to have a little punt on Groves.

Groves needs to be perfect because I don't think he has the stamina or toughness to prevent Jr from hunting him down. Groves can never resist punching with punchers inside either, however, he is normally the faster man. I think Eubank has faster hands and arguably his greatest attribute is whipping flowing combos in on the inside.

If I priced it up I'd make Eubank the favourite but admittedly that would be ignoring what they've actually proved with potential.

Like I said, it's Eubank who would have to fight the perfect fight and even then he won't know because he's never been in this deep.
Groves is a technically better boxer than Saunders and Eubank couldn't work him out.
And if Eubank does leave himself open , which he is prone to, he's gonna get clumped harder than he's ever been hit before. Groves is very heavy handed.
Eubank may have a tough chin, but they don't come much tougher than Froch and when Groves hit him, he fucking knew about it.

Groves has 19 KO’s in 29 fights so he’s not the puncher you make him out to be and he’s never stopped anyone worth talking about. He also managed to make Froch look like a Devastating one punch knockout artist so his chin is very questionable. Eubank is the better puncher and he has the better chin.

[Primo Carnera]

Well all I can say is that I'm pleased everyone is joining the knee jerk bandwagon and I hope that gets reflected in the odds in the build up to the fight.
Talk of Groves having to be perfect. What about Eubank? Doesn't he have to be perfect? And even then he still won't know because he has never fought anybody as good , slick, classy and powerful as Groves.
I'm not saying Eubank hasn't improved or doesn't stand some sort of chance, but if he ends up being seen as the favourite, I think that might be ridiculous enough for me to have a little punt on Groves.

Groves needs to be perfect because I don't think he has the stamina or toughness to prevent Jr from hunting him down. Groves can never resist punching with punchers inside either, however, he is normally the faster man. I think Eubank has faster hands and arguably his greatest attribute is whipping flowing combos in on the inside.

If I priced it up I'd make Eubank the favourite but admittedly that would be ignoring what they've actually proved with potential.

Like I said, it's Eubank who would have to fight the perfect fight and even then he won't know because he's never been in this deep.
Groves is a technically better boxer than Saunders and Eubank couldn't work him out.
And if Eubank does leave himself open , which he is prone to, he's gonna get clumped harder than he's ever been hit before. Groves is very heavy handed.
Eubank may have a tough chin, but they don't come much tougher than Froch and when Groves hit him, he fucking knew about it.

Groves has 19 KO’s in 29 fights so he’s not the puncher you make him out to be and he’s never stopped anyone worth talking about. He also managed to make Froch look like a Devastating one punch knockout artist so his chin is very questionable. Eubank is the better puncher and he has the better chin.

You can make stats tell you what you want to hear. I prefer to actually see for myself and make an opinion.
Groves' 19 from 29 ratio is at a muck higher level and therefore more difficult to knock people out.
Groves would've KO'd all the guys Eubank has.
Froch's punch was a once in a career punch, all about timing. Not dissimilar to Eubank on Saturday night. It happens. But most of Eubank's KO's are flurries of punches , he doesn't normally one punch KO them himself.
Groves is too slick and heavy handed enough to give Eubank something to think about.

[GaMo]

@Primo Carnera Groves isn’t that slick, Froch had no problem finding him and Carl isn’t that quick (he never found Ward or Dirrell) he only found Taylor when Jermain’s gas tank ran out.

[Primo Carnera]

@Primo Carnera Groves isn’t that slick, Froch had no problem finding him and Carl isn’t that quick (he never found Ward or Dirrell) he only found Taylor when Jermain’s gas tank ran out.

Did you see the Froch v Groves fights? I'm not talking about the KO punch, I'm talking about all 16 or 17 rounds. Don't forget, at the time, Froch was the champ and widely seen as top dog in the division (not counting Ward because he was hibernating) and Groves made him look like a novice for long parts of those fights.
And if Eubank is so quick , why couldn't he lay a glove on Saunders for 6 rounds?

[GaMo]

Taylor and Dirrell made Froch look like a novice for large parts of their fights against him. Eubank wasn’t really throwing for the first six rounds, it’s not like he was being made to miss a lot. He just wasn’t being active.

[Primo Carnera]

Taylor and Dirrell made Froch look like a novice for large parts of their fights against him. Eubank wasn’t really throwing for the first six rounds, it’s not like he was being made to miss a lot. He just wasn’t being active.

But WHY Wasn't he being active? Do you think he thought "I'll skip the first 6 rounds". He wasn't active because he couldn't pin Saunders down. He couldn't work him out. It made him look like an amateur.
As for Froch, his biggest strength is that he stays in there, and is difficult to put away. Nobody is saying Froch was a great Boxer. Fuck me, I was one of his biggest critics on here..........but the only person who beat him easy became the best fighter in the World.

[GaMo]

Taylor and Dirrell made Froch look like a novice for large parts of their fights against him. Eubank wasn’t really throwing for the first six rounds, it’s not like he was being made to miss a lot. He just wasn’t being active.

But WHY Wasn't he being active? Do you think he thought "I'll skip the first 6 rounds". He wasn't active because he couldn't pin Saunders down. He couldn't work him out. It made him look like an amateur.
As for Froch, his biggest strength is that he stays in there, and is difficult to put away. Nobody is saying Froch was a great Boxer. Fuck me, I was one of his biggest critics on here..........but the only person who beat him easy became the best fighter in the World.

He was an 18 fight novice at the time and he’s improved a lot since then. Saunders appears to have gotten worse to be honest. Maybe making 160 affected him or maybe he just gave Saunders too much respect early (I don’t know) but BJS is avoiding a rematch and any serious fight for that matter.