driver deliberately mows down pedestrians outside national history museum

[El Kabong]

That is inciting hatred and they should be arrested under the current laws. Deported if possible and hopefully die in one of their jihad conflicts.

Well it was inciting hatred AFTER they cut up Lee Rigby to be specific......the talking about this is good, the DOING about this would be better.


I WANT Muslim Immigrants to become American and the British should want their Muslims to become British....it doesn't mean getting rid of all things Muslim, it means understanding you're in a new place with laws that are a lot different and that needs to be respected. For example I wouldn't go to Iran and demand to be served pork BBQ and that all the gals wear Daisy Dukes instead of hijab/niqab/burqas because that would be disrespectful of the people who call Iran their HOME.....America is my HOME and I would like people to behave accordingly, England is your HOME do you not want the same?



This is a give and take situation...you TAKE in certain parts of their cultures and they in turn GIVE up certain parts of their cultures and in the end they learn a little about us and we learn a little about them and everyone is a good happy neighbor and we all get along without terrorism and child sex slavery....sounds like a plan no? Because that's all I'm asking for.

[Master]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

[El Kabong]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

And terrorists who are fighting for one of the 100% Militant Islamic armies: Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram etc.


There's a problem in the community, I want that community to be happy, healthy, and be good neighbors like everyone else.

[Master]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

And terrorists who are fighting for one of the 100% Militant Islamic armies: Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram etc.


There's a problem in the community, I want that community to be happy, healthy, and be good neighbors like everyone else.

So do i.

Those militant jihadist Muslims are desperate to recruit anyone and will try and take credit for anything that is harmful to the west. Blaming all Muslims can alienate and disenfranchise young misguided fools which is what I do not want to see.

[El Kabong]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

And terrorists who are fighting for one of the 100% Militant Islamic armies: Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram etc.


There's a problem in the community, I want that community to be happy, healthy, and be good neighbors like everyone else.

So do i.

Those militant jihadist Muslims are desperate to recruit anyone and will try and take credit for anything that is harmful to the west. Blaming all Muslims can alienate and disenfranchise young misguided fools which is what I do not want to see.

Well I am not blaming ALL Muslims.....but I'm not so naive to not know where the problem is coming from.

[Fenster]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

[Master]

Criminal is a criminal. I do not care what community they come from.

Abuse was rife in churches, homes and by celebrities. How many of those were Muslim?

[Fenster]

Criminal is a criminal. I do not care what community they come from.

Abuse was rife in churches, homes and by celebrities. How many of those were Muslim?

[Beanz]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

Fenster you can see this is a non sequitur yes? It does not follow that these scum bags are paedos and rapists because they are Muslim. Or you would have to say that Catholic priests who are paedos are because they are Catholic. Because they are celibate priests? that is another argument /excuse entirely. The other glaringly obvious fallacy with this video and the case that it discusses, is that it is built on a myth that it demolishes itself by discussing it. So the press the radio, the television, yes even this interview talks about how people cannot discuss British Muslim nonce rapists, whilst discussing a headline story about them in Britain's leading tabloid newspaper.

So the problem arises also when people insist on both these criminals being called British Muslims whilst insisting these are not British Muslims if they behave like this . They are just Muslim scum. But what about all the other vast majority of Muslims who are appalled by this? are they Muslim, British Muslim, or is it just easier to call them Muslim Scum?


The fundamental problem though is the insistence that those calling people black scum, Muslim Scum etc are not racist or Islamaphobic because they have GOOD black and/or Muslim friends, but that anyone pointing out that this should not define a whole ethnic or religious group must be by definition and necessity, both apologists and naive ostriches burying their head in the sand.

Why?

Because that is the only way to lend credence to a non argument and create a weak, phony opponent. When have I or Master ever denied that there was a problem with some sectors of the British Muslim population? Ever? Once? and think about what a Sikh or a Jew might have to gain by insisting on something like that. It only makes sense if you are creating another stereotype and reducing people to a cardboard cut-out in order to discredit them. Admittedly i am not above this myself in the way I may talk to Lyle recently and others who insist on creating this false narrative. It is a device though that become second nature when the dominant and majority narrative here is so weighed in favour of anti immigration which inevitably leaks into anti-minority. So first it's anti-muslim, then the Jews are fair game, then Pikeys and gypos are always just asking for it, then people with green hair, then people who play loud music, then people who vote for the left etc. etc. etc

[Spicoli]

So, drivers been released from custody no charges? No horrific pedophilia or rape gang associations? No plots plans or murderous intentions stemmed in racial stereotypes or twisted religious ideology? Just a real shitty driver? Place is stuck on race, even a rbr thread gets sucked into it ffs.

[walrus]

So, drivers been released from custody no charges? No horrific pedophilia or rape gang associations? No plots plans or murderous intentions stemmed in racial stereotypes or twisted religious ideology? Just a real shitty driver? Place is stuck on race, even a rbr thread gets sucked into it ffs.

https://youtu.be/7iHXt6DzC9g

Yup bunch of Nazis always talking race

[brocktonblockbust]

So, drivers been released from custody no charges? No horrific pedophilia or rape gang associations? No plots plans or murderous intentions stemmed in racial stereotypes or twisted religious ideology? Just a real shitty driver? Place is stuck on race, even a rbr thread gets sucked into it ffs.

https://youtu.be/7iHXt6DzC9g

Yup bunch of Nazis always talking race

Straight up

[Fenster]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

Fenster you can see this is a non sequitur yes? It does not follow that these scum bags are paedos and rapists because they are Muslim. Or you would have to say that Catholic priests who are paedos are because they are Catholic. Because they are celibate priests? that is another argument /excuse entirely. The other glaringly obvious fallacy with this video and the case that it discusses, is that it is built on a myth that it demolishes itself by discussing it. So the press the radio, the television, yes even this interview talks about how people cannot discuss British Muslim nonce rapists, whilst discussing a headline story about them in Britain's leading tabloid newspaper.

So the problem arises also when people insist on both these criminals being called British Muslims whilst insisting these are not British Muslims if they behave like this . They are just Muslim scum. But what about all the other vast majority of Muslims who are appalled by this? are they Muslim, British Muslim, or is it just easier to call them Muslim Scum?


The fundamental problem though is the insistence that those calling people black scum, Muslim Scum etc are not racist or Islamaphobic because they have GOOD black and/or Muslim friends, but that anyone pointing out that this should not define a whole ethnic or religious group must be by definition and necessity, both apologists and naive ostriches burying their head in the sand.

Why?

Because that is the only way to lend credence to a non argument and create a weak, phony opponent. When have I or Master ever denied that there was a problem with some sectors of the British Muslim population? Ever? Once? and think about what a Sikh or a Jew might have to gain by insisting on something like that. It only makes sense if you are creating another stereotype and reducing people to a cardboard cut-out in order to discredit them. Admittedly i am not above this myself in the way I may talk to Lyle recently and others who insist on creating this false narrative. It is a device though that become second nature when the dominant and majority narrative here is so weighed in favour of anti immigration which inevitably leaks into anti-minority. So first it's anti-muslim, then the Jews are fair game, then Pikeys and gypos are always just asking for it, then people with green hair, then people who play loud music, then people who vote for the left etc. etc. etc

I've crossed out the part that doesn't really apply to me.

The MP had to resign which would suggest "discussing" the problem is problematic. Maajid is a muslim therefore has no fear of being labled a knuckle dragging racist for stating facts.

The key word is - disproportionate

Only 3% of the United Kingdom's population is British Pakistani Muslim. Roughly 4% is Muslim. 28% of rape gang cases involve South Asian Muslims.

"Ostriches burying their head in the sand?" - Yes it does seem that way when people claim it's a mere coincidence these rapists share a religion/culture and purposely target white children.

[walrus]

Wow that's the real statistic didn't know
It was like that

[Dark Lord Al]

agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be muslim.

fenster you can see this is a non sequitur yes? It does not follow that these scum bags are paedos and rapists because they are muslim. Or you would have to say that catholic priests who are paedos are because they are catholic. Because they are celibate priests? That is another argument /excuse entirely. The other glaringly obvious fallacy with this video and the case that it discusses, is that it is built on a myth that it demolishes itself by discussing it. So the press the radio, the television, yes even this interview talks about how people cannot discuss british muslim nonce rapists, whilst discussing a headline story about them in britain's leading tabloid newspaper.

so the problem arises also when people insist on both these criminals being called british muslims whilst insisting these are not british muslims if they behave like this . They are just muslim scum. But what about all the other vast majority of muslims who are appalled by this? Are they muslim, british muslim, or is it just easier to call them muslim scum?


The fundamental problem though is the insistence that those calling people black scum, muslim scum etc are not racist or islamaphobic because they have good black and/or muslim friends, but that anyone pointing out that this should not define a whole ethnic or religious group must be by definition and necessity, both apologists and naive ostriches burying their head in the sand.

Why?

Because that is the only way to lend credence to a non argument and create a weak, phony opponent. When have i or master ever denied that there was a problem with some sectors of the british muslim population? Ever? Once? And think about what a sikh or a jew might have to gain by insisting on something like that. It only makes sense if you are creating another stereotype and reducing people to a cardboard cut-out in order to discredit them. Admittedly i am not above this myself in the way i may talk to lyle recently and others who insist on creating this false narrative. It is a device though that become second nature when the dominant and majority narrative here is so weighed in favour of anti immigration which inevitably leaks into anti-minority. So first it's anti-muslim, then the jews are fair game, then pikeys and gypos are always just asking for it, then people with green hair, then people who play loud music, then people who vote for the left etc. Etc. Etc

i've crossed out the part that doesn't really apply to me.

The mp had to resign which would suggest "discussing" the problem is problematic. Maajid is a muslim therefore has no fear of being labled a knuckle dragging racist for stating facts.

The key word is - disproportionate

only 3% of the united kingdom's population is british pakistani muslim. Roughly 4% is muslim. 28% of rape gang cases involve south asian muslims.

"ostriches burying their head in the sand?" - yes it does seem that way when people claim it's a mere coincidence these rapists share a religion/culture and purposely target white children.

fact.