driver deliberately mows down pedestrians outside national history museum

[Master]

Tell me El Kabong you do not quote Robinson from EDL please?

Quote him on what? I know of Tommy, I know he got thrown in jail before Anjem Choudary (who had ties to how many terrorists??) . I know he founded and was a part of the EDL until recently. I know he doesn't much care for Militant Islamists and I know the feeling is QUITE mutual. I do not know much about the EDL other than everyone saying it's racist and they're racist....kind of a hollow insult at this point as it's a tad over used.

He was concerned with his home town being turned into an Islamist foothold in England....he was concerned with the rapes and sexual slavery of women by Islamists


That's pretty much it, and yeah I'd say Tommy might not be an eloquent fellow but he's not wrong to have a special hate for Militant Islamists and sexual predators.


Do you LIKE/ENJOY Militant Islamists and Sexual Predators? I would hope that you don't and IF in fact you don't like them then you too agree with Tommy on something.

I honestly thought better of you.

Every ordinary and normal person hates militant Muslims and sexual predators. However he and his ilk use it as an excuse to persecute all Muslims.

When he says British First he means white people.

[El Kabong]

I honestly thought better of you.

Every ordinary and normal person hates militant Muslims and sexual predators. However he and his ilk use it as an excuse to persecute all Muslims.

When he says British First he means white people.

So you're on that bandwagon now too eh? Well good luck with that.

Tommy and the EDL are racists eh? Well I guess that makes Mohan Singh a racist too then doesn't it?



Uh oh....some more racist Sikhs






ALL Muslims? ALL of them? I don't believe that is actually the case, but if it is please do provide the evidence and I WILL disavow....not that anyone who actually considers me a racist would fucking mind anyway.



When he says "British first" he doesn't mean white people he means the fucking culture, there is a GIGANTIC difference, but whatever you keep on thinking I'm a racist.


1 mosque in Manchester spawns 16 Jihadis and you're going to tell me "Nah mate, no problem here".....FUCK YES MATE, big fucking problem there! And with GUESS WHO....it ain't the Scots, it ain't the Welsh, it ain't Sikhs, it ain't the Jamaicans, it ain't the Indians.....who....could....it possibly....be?



Oh that's right the MILITANT ISLAMISTS and where do they worship? MOSQUES. And who isn't dropping the dime on them to the authorities? OTHER MUSLIMS....maybe they are afraid, which is understandable, but maybe they are complicit and that would be not so great.


I have Muslim friends, they know full well what I think and they are none too happy about ISIS or Al Qaeda and if they were to ever have knowledge of someone wanting to do evil, they'd do the right thing.



But that's cool, you wanna call me racist. Have fun with it, Beanz already has and I have nothing to do with him any more. You do what you think is right, but I will NEVER side with terrorists and people running the sex slave industry and yeah that's exactly the group of people I'm hearing Tommy Robinson talk about.

[Master]

I never called you a racist, ever.

Those Sikhs are an embarrassment to me. Spreading the same moronic crap I hear from my cousin's who despise Muslims for every bad thing they do but never acknowledging the positive.

[El Kabong]

I never called you a racist, ever.

Those Sikhs are an embarrassment to me. Spreading the same moronic crap I hear from my cousin's who despise Muslims for every bad thing they do but never acknowledging the positive.

Kinda feels like you're lumping me in with people who you think are racist. I certainly don't want that to be the case, if it's not then that's fine.


OK, there are positives that Muslims do in the communities they live in and we certainly can address that and thank them all for their efforts in 1 thread or 80 threads whatever you would liek to do, I would be DELIGHTED to participate in that discussion. HOWEVER, just as #NotAllMuslims are evil, #NotAllMuslims are great either and some of the shit done by the not great Muslims is pretty fucking evil....Rotherham Grooming Gang, 16 Jihadis from just 1 area in Manchester, Anjem Choudary, Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale.....


"The only reason we have killed this man today is because Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers. And this British soldier is one.... By Allah, we swear by the almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you until you leave us alone. So what if we want to live by the Sharia in Muslim lands? Why does that mean you must follow us and chase us and call us extremists and kill us?...when you drop a bomb do you think it hits one person? Or rather your bomb wipes out a whole family? ...Through many passages in the Koran we must fight them as they fight us...I apologise that women had to witness this today but in our lands women have to see the same. You people will never be safe. Remove your governments, they don’t care about you. You think David Cameron is gonna get caught in the street when we start busting our guns? Do you think politicians are going to die? No, it's going to be the average guy, like you and your children. So get rid of them. Tell them to bring our troops back...leave our lands and you will live in peace."- Michael Adebolajo



Soooo yeah, can we address that because other communities of people in England are not doing THAT.....so I'm asking, pretty please with a cherry on top could we discuss THAT part of Islam because that's KINDA a bigger problem than most and it's KINDA hurting other folks sooooo can we prioritize fixing that? Not ALL Muslims, not ALL of Islam, not 1 race, just those parts of a CULTURE, we'll do those first and then maybe the acid attacks and idk knife crime or what have you next.

[Master]

That is inciting hatred and they should be arrested under the current laws. Deported if possible and hopefully die in one of their jihad conflicts.

[El Kabong]

That is inciting hatred and they should be arrested under the current laws. Deported if possible and hopefully die in one of their jihad conflicts.

Well it was inciting hatred AFTER they cut up Lee Rigby to be specific......the talking about this is good, the DOING about this would be better.


I WANT Muslim Immigrants to become American and the British should want their Muslims to become British....it doesn't mean getting rid of all things Muslim, it means understanding you're in a new place with laws that are a lot different and that needs to be respected. For example I wouldn't go to Iran and demand to be served pork BBQ and that all the gals wear Daisy Dukes instead of hijab/niqab/burqas because that would be disrespectful of the people who call Iran their HOME.....America is my HOME and I would like people to behave accordingly, England is your HOME do you not want the same?



This is a give and take situation...you TAKE in certain parts of their cultures and they in turn GIVE up certain parts of their cultures and in the end they learn a little about us and we learn a little about them and everyone is a good happy neighbor and we all get along without terrorism and child sex slavery....sounds like a plan no? Because that's all I'm asking for.

[Master]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

[El Kabong]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

And terrorists who are fighting for one of the 100% Militant Islamic armies: Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram etc.


There's a problem in the community, I want that community to be happy, healthy, and be good neighbors like everyone else.

[Master]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

And terrorists who are fighting for one of the 100% Militant Islamic armies: Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram etc.


There's a problem in the community, I want that community to be happy, healthy, and be good neighbors like everyone else.

So do i.

Those militant jihadist Muslims are desperate to recruit anyone and will try and take credit for anything that is harmful to the west. Blaming all Muslims can alienate and disenfranchise young misguided fools which is what I do not want to see.

[Beanz]

That is inciting hatred and they should be arrested under the current laws. Deported if possible and hopefully die in one of their jihad conflicts.

Well it was inciting hatred AFTER they cut up Lee Rigby to be specific......the talking about this is good, the DOING about this would be better.


I WANT Muslim Immigrants to become American and the British should want their Muslims to become British....it doesn't mean getting rid of all things Muslim, it means understanding you're in a new place with laws that are a lot different and that needs to be respected. For example I wouldn't go to Iran and demand to be served pork BBQ and that all the gals wear Daisy Dukes instead of hijab/niqab/burqas because that would be disrespectful of the people who call Iran their HOME.....America is my HOME and I would like people to behave accordingly, England is your HOME do you not want the same?



This is a give and take situation...you TAKE in certain parts of their cultures and they in turn GIVE up certain parts of their cultures and in the end they learn a little about us and we learn a little about them and everyone is a good happy neighbor and we all get along without terrorism and child sex slavery....sounds like a plan no? Because that's all I'm asking for.

@El Kabong. I would say with all due respect, but I don't have much left for you when you act like this. Fucking stop telling everybody what to do in England. "The British should want this...the British need to be taught this" . Can you not see what a hypocritical twat that makes you sound like? Stop defending racist cunts, and then maybe, just maybe, people will not mistake you for a racists chief apologist. The EDL do not represent the English anymore than the fucking KKK represent Americans, you massive tool. You are telling Master that it feels like he is lumping you in with racists, as you actively, and repeatedly, expend energy defending racists. Not only that. You are defining Muslims by those very same terms that you are whining about people supposedly using to describe you. Think about it. Thai is a thread about a non -Muslim not carrying out a terror attack and you are using it as an excuse to fucking ramp up animosity towards Muslims and Immigrants in Britain. You are accusing Immigrants of not respecting Britain whilst being a condescending cunt to a British Sikh, who has probably been at the sharp end of abuse from cunts like Tommy and his band of merry wankers, telling him he should be ready to be exploited by the EDL, like the Sikhs in the video.

The EDL exploit things like the Murder of Lee Rigby for their own political gains. They descend on towns and cities across the country and get pissed up looking for easy targets to outnumber and beat up. They are not freedom fighters standing up for England or free speech or anyone's rights but their own right to intimidate women and have a tear up. If there are no anti-facists there to face the cunts off, they will brawl with the police or each other.


I know you will not read this while your knickers are in such a twist but unlike Trump you cannot censor and select who have the right to reply, on a forum which you do not own. Constructive debate works two ways and you don't get to dictate how that happens.

[walrus]

Terrorist come in all colors, shapes and sizes never assume what they look like.

Only spicoli would notice the guy at the back.

What master is saying is the enrichment of our culture with unrestricted mass integration has been a great thing #diversity

How can you disagree in a country built by immigrants and you yourself marrying a wife from another culture ? Just because Master and myself do not join in with the rush to accuse anyone with brown skin of being a terrorist and assuming all Muslims are feral scum why would that mean that you have to label us in exactly the same way the PC clowns you so despise? it is a fact that both the UK and the US would be nothing without the enrichment that all these cultures have brought us. Everything from language to cuisine is the result of immigration. Innovation, education and the removal of silly superstitions have been enabled by immigrants. It is a stupid idea to pretend that any country has reached a point where they are above immigration and should be declared a superior culture where the citizens are somehow better than the rest of the world. Nonsensical mumbo jumbo and nimbyism dressed up as an intellectual standpoint. We are used to it here . For years the Welsh and Irish and Scottish, and daft ill informed Americans, have blamed the everything on the English, when the crimes they are complaining about were carried out by the French (the Normans) or their own greedy Catholic or Aristocratic ruling classes.

There is nothing to be gained by putting people into boxes. You have an opportunity to ask British people about the fake rubbish you are sold, where apparently there are areas you cannot fly an Union Jack or English flag, or that we are overrun by immigrants, but you seem uninterested in anything but buying into the hype to confirm your own worse expectations.

Hmmm that was contemplative, let me think, nah I'm right. My wife had to jump through hoops to get here. She attended school, ended up getting a full academic scholarship to Cornell university. She accepted that she was in another country and in many ways assimilated to the us being productive, never got a penny from the us government and didn't expect it and did not complain in the early days when she couldn't afford to eat. Today we see a different type of immigration, no go areas in Detroit run under sharia law. Germany has a town of 300,000 that now has 100,000 Turkish immigrants. A BBC reporter did a story in the city and found entire areas covered with Turkish flags and native Germans know they are not welcome. In yocountry you have areas of immigrants cops don't even patrol, same here. You got me wrong beanz I just got my Pakistani friend a job at my place. Guy already has a job but told me if I could get him in for a few months he'd be grateful. I get a bonus for everyone I bring in and I'll hand it to him when I get it. I live in the us beanz I work in a building with Albanians, Arabics even one English dude who is actually weird but cool. I have no problems with these people, they came here the right way.

It's not the 1800's we are not filled with growth and have unemployment. We have a national debt built up not only by military spending but social programs. Over fifty percent of the us budget is entitlement programs. Yes, we have taken more refugees than anyone else in the world over decades but if you want to come here, receive government medical, housing food stamps etc but keep things like it's your own country I can't take it anymore. We have too much divisiveness and shit we gotta fix before it all goes down the drain. Perhaps we can do some compassionate immigration for the Christians in the Middle East that are undergoing genocide that barely makes the paper. It's a whole different world from the time you mentioned. We should take people in if they are willing to be productive and work and maybe even learn English. W

I've rented out my house to blacks, four Colombian guys and now I have an Aryan couple. I don't give a shit what color you are but be productive unless you are disabled

The fact that you have to mention the colour of the people you rented your house out to says it all really. "In yocountry you have areas of immigrants cops don't even patrol, same here" Really? where did you get that rubbish from? You are the one reducing everything down to hashtags, so don't pretend that you are now Mr contemplation. Who cares what they do in Germany? Do you live in Germany? Do I? Nobody is saying there are not lazy feckless people who want to play the system, but you are not differentiating between genuine refugees, and hard working and often skilled immigrants in your posts at all. It's just a blanket howl at diversity. It becomes a habit, and then before you know it, if you dare not join in the constant blame EVERYTHING on the immigrants culture, you end up being talked about as though you are a policy maker or part of the problem yourself.

Nah, u missed the whole point. You have said several times, walrus perhaps you've never met a person from Pakistan and similar things. It just makes me think you don't know what's up where I live. I was trying to give a small picture. Never mind I'm done with it now

[Fenster]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

[El Kabong]

Agreed but these criminals are just that peadophiles, abusers and scum bags who happen to be Muslim.

And terrorists who are fighting for one of the 100% Militant Islamic armies: Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram etc.


There's a problem in the community, I want that community to be happy, healthy, and be good neighbors like everyone else.

So do i.

Those militant jihadist Muslims are desperate to recruit anyone and will try and take credit for anything that is harmful to the west. Blaming all Muslims can alienate and disenfranchise young misguided fools which is what I do not want to see.

Well I am not blaming ALL Muslims.....but I'm not so naive to not know where the problem is coming from.

[Master]

Criminal is a criminal. I do not care what community they come from.

Abuse was rife in churches, homes and by celebrities. How many of those were Muslim?

[Beanz]

Terrorist come in all colors, shapes and sizes never assume what they look like.

Only spicoli would notice the guy at the back.

What master is saying is the enrichment of our culture with unrestricted mass integration has been a great thing #diversity

How can you disagree in a country built by immigrants and you yourself marrying a wife from another culture ? Just because Master and myself do not join in with the rush to accuse anyone with brown skin of being a terrorist and assuming all Muslims are feral scum why would that mean that you have to label us in exactly the same way the PC clowns you so despise? it is a fact that both the UK and the US would be nothing without the enrichment that all these cultures have brought us. Everything from language to cuisine is the result of immigration. Innovation, education and the removal of silly superstitions have been enabled by immigrants. It is a stupid idea to pretend that any country has reached a point where they are above immigration and should be declared a superior culture where the citizens are somehow better than the rest of the world. Nonsensical mumbo jumbo and nimbyism dressed up as an intellectual standpoint. We are used to it here . For years the Welsh and Irish and Scottish, and daft ill informed Americans, have blamed the everything on the English, when the crimes they are complaining about were carried out by the French (the Normans) or their own greedy Catholic or Aristocratic ruling classes.

There is nothing to be gained by putting people into boxes. You have an opportunity to ask British people about the fake rubbish you are sold, where apparently there are areas you cannot fly an Union Jack or English flag, or that we are overrun by immigrants, but you seem uninterested in anything but buying into the hype to confirm your own worse expectations.

Hmmm that was contemplative, let me think, nah I'm right. My wife had to jump through hoops to get here. She attended school, ended up getting a full academic scholarship to Cornell university. She accepted that she was in another country and in many ways assimilated to the us being productive, never got a penny from the us government and didn't expect it and did not complain in the early days when she couldn't afford to eat. Today we see a different type of immigration, no go areas in Detroit run under sharia law. Germany has a town of 300,000 that now has 100,000 Turkish immigrants. A BBC reporter did a story in the city and found entire areas covered with Turkish flags and native Germans know they are not welcome. In yocountry you have areas of immigrants cops don't even patrol, same here. You got me wrong beanz I just got my Pakistani friend a job at my place. Guy already has a job but told me if I could get him in for a few months he'd be grateful. I get a bonus for everyone I bring in and I'll hand it to him when I get it. I live in the us beanz I work in a building with Albanians, Arabics even one English dude who is actually weird but cool. I have no problems with these people, they came here the right way.

It's not the 1800's we are not filled with growth and have unemployment. We have a national debt built up not only by military spending but social programs. Over fifty percent of the us budget is entitlement programs. Yes, we have taken more refugees than anyone else in the world over decades but if you want to come here, receive government medical, housing food stamps etc but keep things like it's your own country I can't take it anymore. We have too much divisiveness and shit we gotta fix before it all goes down the drain. Perhaps we can do some compassionate immigration for the Christians in the Middle East that are undergoing genocide that barely makes the paper. It's a whole different world from the time you mentioned. We should take people in if they are willing to be productive and work and maybe even learn English. W

I've rented out my house to blacks, four Colombian guys and now I have an Aryan couple. I don't give a shit what color you are but be productive unless you are disabled

The fact that you have to mention the colour of the people you rented your house out to says it all really. "In yocountry you have areas of immigrants cops don't even patrol, same here" Really? where did you get that rubbish from? You are the one reducing everything down to hashtags, so don't pretend that you are now Mr contemplation. Who cares what they do in Germany? Do you live in Germany? Do I? Nobody is saying there are not lazy feckless people who want to play the system, but you are not differentiating between genuine refugees, and hard working and often skilled immigrants in your posts at all. It's just a blanket howl at diversity. It becomes a habit, and then before you know it, if you dare not join in the constant blame EVERYTHING on the immigrants culture, you end up being talked about as though you are a policy maker or part of the problem yourself.

Nah, u missed the whole point. You have said several times, walrus perhaps you've never met a person from Pakistan and similar things. It just makes me think you don't know what's up where I live. I was trying to give a small picture. Never mind I'm done with it now

Never said that at all, ever. What i said was in England the term "Paki" is offensive, and has a long and sordid association with racist violence. You chose to ignore that because it makes it much simpler to make me into a cartoon character like all the SJW's that you have encountered. Why would I think you live in a mono-culture? If you are in America/New York/Connecticut then that would be highly unlikely surely? I am not the one going on about Zog and Aryans but I am able to see that you are obviously much more nuanced than the character you can project on here. It reduces us all to virtual memes at times, and I can understand and accept that I may come across as a total prick.