88 yr old woman jailed 6 mos. for denying Holocaust ***WTF***

[Beanz]

You are openly admitting that you do not think it should be illegal and yet you do not want to raise your voice to tell Germany what to do. You are a hypocrite because in another thread you have just said that when you see something that is wrong you should speak up and challenge it. Here you are using the excuse that we cannot tell another country what to do. HA!!! And yet in another thread you're saying if you hear a conversation that is wrong or bigoted you should speak up and tell people what to do. You can't have it both ways man.

That is just you lying again. You have a track record of it. I don't think it should be illegal, but I am not going to tell Germany what their laws should be. There is absolutely no hypocrisy in speaking out against racism at all. I would do it in GErnay also. What you are doing is speaking out in support of it. Holocaust denial is another form of racism. It is a way of minimizing the suffering of Jews and painting them out to be devious liars, which you yourself have said on this forum. It is no surprise you would want me to just keep my mouth shut so that you could continue spreading such hateful rubbish. You are not challenging something that is wrong, you are trying to defend holocaust deniers and paint them as little innocent old ladies, you are acting like a fucking snake, not a defender of people's rights at all.

[El Kabong]

This kind of sums up my views on speech....people are free to talk and if some talk and say stupid shit then at least people know "Hey, that's some stupid shit over there" but I guess I expect too much of people to allow for that.

I believe the Holocaust happened as it has been taught to me AND I've studied history I enjoy studying history and it doesn't hurt to have known people who were actually there and actually liberated camps.


However, the dumb woman is not hurting anyone with her dumb fucking comments, why waste the time, money, and effort to lock her up? Will it teach the old dumb lady a lesson? I doubt it. Maybe she's mental?

[brocktonblockbust]

I tend to really make a point of ignoring old dumb Ladies as well as young dumb ladies and I would not want to lock any of them up. Sometimes they are wearing sexy skirts and I enjoy looking at them even if they are saying stupid s***. So I would not want to lock any of them up let the ladies say anything they want. I support women as long as they have a nice mini skirt on and some cute lips and not a nice chin that's a nice upper arms with some nice very short t-shirts on so I can see their shoulders and their arms and their biceps and triceps they can say any stupid s*** they want.

[Beanz]

This kind of sums up my views on speech....people are free to talk and if some talk and say stupid shit then at least people know "Hey, that's some stupid shit over there" but I guess I expect too much of people to allow for that.

I believe the Holocaust happened as it has been taught to me AND I've studied history I enjoy studying history and it doesn't hurt to have known people who were actually there and actually liberated camps.


However, the dumb woman is not hurting anyone with her dumb fucking comments, why waste the time, money, and effort to lock her up? Will it teach the old dumb lady a lesson? I doubt it. Maybe she's mental?

All doubt has been well and truly removed.

[walrus]

Is this lady available she sounds cool

[Gandalf]

I don't think you should be in prison for having an unusual point of view. That is in itself a form of extremism.

[walrus]

I don't think you should be in prison for having an unusual point of view. That is in itself a form of extremism.

Isn't Germany a democracy, how are laws putting someone in jail for such speech even possible.

[Gandalf]

The thing is if you are going to argue these kinds of things then surely you would have to put people in prison for believing in God who according to the Old Testament was really into genocide too. Or do you then put the people who don't believe in God in prison too as they are obviously denying Godly genocide? Either way it's a slippery slope to be locking people up for having opinions. The state is what led to Hitler, so using the state to silence freedom of speech is probably not the best way to advance anything.

[El Kabong]

The state is what led to Hitler, so using the state to silence freedom of speech is probably not the best way to advance anything.

This!

[brocktonblockbust]

You are openly admitting that you do not think it should be illegal and yet you do not want to raise your voice to tell Germany what to do. You are a hypocrite because in another thread you have just said that when you see something that is wrong you should speak up and challenge it. Here you are using the excuse that we cannot tell another country what to do. HA!!! And yet in another thread you're saying if you hear a conversation that is wrong or bigoted you should speak up and tell people what to do. You can't have it both ways man.

That is just you lying again. You have a track record of it. I don't think it should be illegal, but I am not going to tell Germany what their laws should be. There is absolutely no hypocrisy in speaking out against racism at all. I would do it in GErnay also. What you are doing is speaking out in support of it. Holocaust denial is another form of racism. It is a way of minimizing the suffering of Jews and painting them out to be devious liars, which you yourself have said on this forum. It is no surprise you would want me to just keep my mouth shut so that you could continue spreading such hateful rubbish. You are not challenging something that is wrong, you are trying to defend holocaust deniers and paint them as little innocent old ladies, you are acting like a fucking snake, not a defender of people's rights at all.

When have you ever kept your mouth shut? And when did I say I ever wanted you to keep your mouth shut? You're into this thing I noticed over the past few years that you think people are suppressing your speech you have often said that people want to squash or silence opposing viewpoints. Do you realize how many times you have imagined that people are trying to silence you? I cannot speak for a lyle but I have never tried to silence you. I could not physically silence you if I tried. Do you realize that makes no sense at all? I have never said please stop posting or please shut up or please close your mouth. I don't remember anyone ever tell you that. And yet you go on and on for the past 3 or 4 years about people trying to silence opposing points of view. How can anyone silence an opposing point of view? The only way that anyone could do that and I would greatly fear such a thing is through legislation. So actually I am glad to see that you are agreeing with me. You do not want to be silenced. You should not be silenced. Nobody should be silenced. That is what I have been saying all along. So I am glad to see that you agree with me

[Beanz]

You are openly admitting that you do not think it should be illegal and yet you do not want to raise your voice to tell Germany what to do. You are a hypocrite because in another thread you have just said that when you see something that is wrong you should speak up and challenge it. Here you are using the excuse that we cannot tell another country what to do. HA!!! And yet in another thread you're saying if you hear a conversation that is wrong or bigoted you should speak up and tell people what to do. You can't have it both ways man.

That is just you lying again. You have a track record of it. I don't think it should be illegal, but I am not going to tell Germany what their laws should be. There is absolutely no hypocrisy in speaking out against racism at all. I would do it in GErnay also. What you are doing is speaking out in support of it. Holocaust denial is another form of racism. It is a way of minimizing the suffering of Jews and painting them out to be devious liars, which you yourself have said on this forum. It is no surprise you would want me to just keep my mouth shut so that you could continue spreading such hateful rubbish. You are not challenging something that is wrong, you are trying to defend holocaust deniers and paint them as little innocent old ladies, you are acting like a fucking snake, not a defender of people's rights at all.

When have you ever kept your mouth shut? And when did I say I ever wanted you to keep your mouth shut? You're into this thing I noticed over the past few years that you think people are suppressing your speech you have often said that people want to squash or silence opposing viewpoints. Do you realize how many times you have imagined that people are trying to silence you? I cannot speak for a lyle but I have never tried to silence you. I could not physically silence you if I tried. Do you realize that makes no sense at all? I have never said please stop posting or please shut up or please close your mouth. I don't remember anyone ever tell you that. And yet you go on and on for the past 3 or 4 years about people trying to silence opposing points of view. How can anyone silence an opposing point of view? The only way that anyone could do that and I would greatly fear such a thing is through legislation. So actually I am glad to see that you are agreeing with me. You do not want to be silenced. You should not be silenced. Nobody should be silenced. That is what I have been saying all along. So I am glad to see that you agree with me

I am not so sure..half Armenian..half Italian...you fuckers talk too much...