If you trained AJ..or Wilder?

[imp]

I would normally argue that Wilder, like all delusional fighters, doesn't see what everyone else sees. However, he wont even entertain facing Dillian Whyte for a career high payday.

Of all the plodder heavyweights out there Wilder defends his title against Molina? Szpilka? Duhaupas? Where did they get these guys from? Washington? All these guys became known in boxing because of Wilder and all got whupped straight after.

Wilder hasn't been matched to learn from experience he's been matched to keep his title (granted he would have faced Povetkin during this time)

I find the ducking of Dillian whyte strange, that is a missed opportunity.

[Alpha]

I would normally argue that Wilder, like all delusional fighters, doesn't see what everyone else sees. However, he wont even entertain facing Dillian Whyte for a career high payday.

Of all the plodder heavyweights out there Wilder defends his title against Molina? Szpilka? Duhaupas? Where did they get these guys from? Washington? All these guys became known in boxing because of Wilder and all got whupped straight after.

Wilder hasn't been matched to learn from experience he's been matched to keep his title (granted he would have faced Povetkin during this time)

I find the ducking of Dillian whyte strange, that is a missed opportunity.

I believe Wilder is wanting that AJ fight to cash out. There's a strong possibility he'd lose to Whyte.

[Ron Swanson]

You all realize Wilder told Hearn to put what he says into the contract right? Hearn says fight Whyte for a shot at AJ, Wilder told him “put it in the contract and I’ll fight Whyte” the ball is in and has been in Hearns court.

[Master]

You all realize Wilder told Hearn to put what he says into the contract right? Hearn says fight Whyte for a shot at AJ, Wilder told him “put it in the contract and I’ll fight Whyte” the ball is in and has been in Hearns court.

I agree, I think Wilder would beat Whyte and would not be carried to take that fight.

[J_Undisputed]

I agree with those that said AJ,s defense is a little lacking. I think he has the tools, but its the execution that's a little slow rolling. Watching his fight. I see.. that he either stays out of range looking for a shot to counter or shuffling in with his hands high looking to maul you with combos. It's not a bad plan of action as you don't have many fleet footed heavyweights that would slip out and use angles on you. Still if he was stronger and pivoting, using defense to set up offense, and setting traps, he would do himself the favor of creating opportunities and conserving his energy to preserve his stamina. A good fighter know hows to attack and how to defend. A better fighter also knows when....

As for wilder, They need to fix his feet. Yes hes long and athletic. But ever notice how with the exception of that straight right hand, his length tends to get in his way and makes him awkward. A pet peeve of mine has always been tall fighters that fought short (Corrales, Paul Williams) . Their exciting but the physics of the situation is working against them every time. If you're tall and you're hook happy, your just opening every window of opportunity in the house. A guy with a side step that covers more ground than most opponents reach should be a Ghost by the time the punches are coming in. Plus the benefit of having a reach that would allow you to throw counters after those misses should be golden. But his legs get tangled up so he turns his back sometimes and runs away to retreat. His hooks wind up as slapping door knockers at times. His stance is too wide on his punches and leaves him in awkward positions to defend from. He sometimes forgets the difference between a swing and a punch. For wilder, hes been doing these things for so long without being corrected that fixing them now would take time and discipline that i'm afraid, he doesn't have because hes too busy trying to build his brand.

[TitoFan]

If the question is who would I'd rather train, the slam-dunk answer for me is AJ. Wilder is a bigger project for any trainer. Too many things to fix, which may or may not be fixable. I like Wilder, don't get me wrong, but he's gotten away with a lot of things because of his strength and athleticism. To those who like a blank canvas to work with, Wilder would be a formidable project, mainly because he's got so many pro fights under his belt. What's the saying... it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks?

AJ is another story. Not saying he's the complete package yet... but let's not forget he just finished knocking out a very determined, FINALLY offensive-minded Wladimir. Plus... he survived a knockdown by Wlad to do it. At this point I think AJ is at a much superior technical place than Wilder.

[Alpha]

After his recent weigh in AJ may have to work on the weight and extra muscle. All the outside interference can't help much either.

[ykdadamaja]

If the question is who would I'd rather train, the slam-dunk answer for me is AJ. Wilder is a bigger project for any trainer. Too many things to fix, which may or may not be fixable. I like Wilder, don't get me wrong, but he's gotten away with a lot of things because of his strength and athleticism. To those who like a blank canvas to work with, Wilder would be a formidable project, mainly because he's got so many pro fights under his belt. What's the saying... it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks?

AJ is another story. Not saying he's the complete package yet... but let's not forget he just finished knocking out a very determined, FINALLY offensive-minded Wladimir. Plus... he survived a knockdown by Wlad to do it. At this point I think AJ is at a much superior technical place than Wilder.

AJ is as complete a package as anyone else right now.

[brocktonblockbust]

After that mediocre performance last night by Anthony Joshua I am certain that Deontay Wilder will bomb him out of there in about 4 or 5 round stops. Joshua is all hat and no cattle.

[Spicoli]

For AJ put down the barbells and lift if need be for flexibility and fluidity. Lighter weight up the reps. Did you see Gerald Washington stuffing jabs in Wilders face? Use it perfect it. Don't be so chummy with Hearn in public .