Hitting on the break and resulting KOs?

[powerpuncher]

It’s unfortunate but when you hit on the break (like the video shows) there has to be some sort of penalty. I know you are supposed to protect yourself at all times but you can’t punch as the ref is breaking you up. At very least a NC is in order.

[Alpha]

I'm with Powerpuncher, the shot came after the ref had called break. Paez should have been given 5 minutes to recover and if he couldn't then it should have been a nc.

[Master]

I can't remember that fight!

I think it was legit and Paez was to blame.

Remember this one?

[Badger]

I can't remember that fight!

I think it was legit and Paez was to blame.

Remember this one?

Fucking hell this is a classic.

[J_Undisputed]

The first shot was desperation. Ortiz was getting ground down and was clinching every 2 seconds. He knew what he was doing. I agree with power puncher. No contest after 5 minutes.. Partially the refs fault for not getting in there and separating the fighters with both hands and prying them apart.

The punch after the bell was fair to me. They bother threw after the bell. One landed, one didn't.

Hitting on the break happens many times because the refs are lazy. They got the best seat in the house. So they walk around and peek and then don't do anything because they are forced to. For all the people saying the ref should be invisible, it doesn't mean that you cant be vocal. When two fighters get tied up, you can say:

- Punch it out (I'm not breaking this up yet so get your work in)
- Break (Release your grip and step the hell back) and then get in with both arms and wedge them apart.
- Stop holding (i've seen refs physically pry that hold hand off and let guys punch it out)

Too often refs now, let the fighters work it out because they themselves don't want to get hit breaking a clinch, assert themselves with a dirty fighter that might be raging (roid or other) or just plain don't know how to ref a fight.

[Spicoli]

I can't remember that fight!

I think it was legit and Paez was to blame.

Remember this one?

Definitaly a case for utilizing instant replay I think and we see it occasionally. But again, had roles been reversed doubt seriously Molinares would be afforded the second look.

Weird aftermath also. Good they reversed it in short order but odd that no rematch took place. Apparently Molinares was stripped because he couldn't make weight ? and then goes on to be ko'd by inferior competition twice and just disappears. Starling wins strap on card where Breland fights for vacant wba yet they never rematch either?

[El Kabong]

Most famous case of it...poor Sharkey got jobbed

[ykdadamaja]

I say protect yourself at all times. All times. Unless the foul is blatant, i.e., a guy running into another guy's corner like James Butler v Richard Grant, then really and truly what in the world would you think should happen?

[El Kabong]

Vitali Klitschko was actually quite adept at using the gaps in the rules to be more effective in his attack. Vitali unlike Wladimir, would after initiating a clinch break the clinch before the ref got there, the other fighter would be in kind of a lazy state thinking "Oh the ref will break us, I can drop my guard for a second and catch my breath".....wrong.


Mike Tyson was good at that as well. It's a great tactic for a pressure fighter to push his opponent up against the ropes, take a drop step and slam home some power punches. When Mike was tired the ref would break the fighters before Mike could initiate an attack and therefore it would stop him from completing a knockout or it would allow his opponent to recover.

[Spicoli]

It’s unfortunate but when you hit on the break (like the video shows) there has to be some sort of penalty. I know you are supposed to protect yourself at all times but you can’t punch as the ref is breaking you up. At very least a NC is in order.

I was thinking similar and as J_Undisputed mentioned a much more definitive take charge ref helps avoid much of it. Once the ref gave instruction that was not followed and altered fight control was lost. Then he counted as to second guess him self while also indicating a foul

I say deduct point on foul and allow time to recoup, NC if unable. But shoe on the other foot and it was Ortiz or a guy far behind we've seen guys try to milk a DQ win and play act on the canvas. All starts with ref and they need to be scrutinized as much as judges, more so really.