Special note to Errol Spence!

[Ron Swanson]

Should probably look up his purses, he is making enough that Arum said it was bad for boxing.

But I like the thought of a world tour. Problem is all the best WAs fight in america. He's going to travel to fight down? Makes no sense

Spence can make fights for money with regular guys IF the top guys won't fight him. Why fight an American tomato can for pennies because the top guys, who are American, won't take a fight on your physical schedule? Over fighting a foreign tomato can for a few good dollars in his backyard, still win and still be on physical schedule for when one of the bigger-names decides they are gonna put on their big-boy trousers?

Spence can be the next Manny if he works it right. Crawford kinda messed that up for himself with his arrest and conviction. But Spence has a good attitude, seems like a mature and decent kid who just knows how to fuck people up. And fuck em up GOOD!

You say pennies but other promoters literally complained about him making too much. Who would you have him fight to make more?

Horn in Australia could work but he has to get past Crawford.

Pac somewhere could work, but we know Arum only wants to feed Pac to Bid or Loma.

So who is he going to make more than 3 million against?

[Alpha]

Should probably look up his purses, he is making enough that Arum said it was bad for boxing.

But I like the thought of a world tour. Problem is all the best WAs fight in america. He's going to travel to fight down? Makes no sense

Spence can make fights for money with regular guys IF the top guys won't fight him. Why fight an American tomato can for pennies because the top guys, who are American, won't take a fight on your physical schedule? Over fighting a foreign tomato can for a few good dollars in his backyard, still win and still be on physical schedule for when one of the bigger-names decides they are gonna put on their big-boy trousers?

Spence can be the next Manny if he works it right. Crawford kinda messed that up for himself with his arrest and conviction. But Spence has a good attitude, seems like a mature and decent kid who just knows how to fuck people up. And fuck em up GOOD!

You say pennies but other promoters literally complained about him making too much. Who would you have him fight to make more?

Horn in Australia could work but he has to get past Crawford.

Pac somewhere could work, but we know Arum only wants to feed Pac to Bid or Loma.

So who is he going to make more than 3 million against?

Yea I'd like to know who he has in mind to travel and fight against as well. Why not stay in the US and fight fringe contenders, guys like Peterson, make good money, pick up some experience while the other guys pretend you don't exist. Spence has a mandatory against Campo, Vargas is still around, Alexander, Ugas, Skeete would need to travel.

[ykdadamaja]

My thing is the only way he is gonna get paid is if he fights a top guy like Thurman. Not even Garcia or Porter. Only other guys are Pac and Crawford, fights which seem unlikely.

Mu suggestion IS if he has to fight a stiff for pennies, or under $1 mil or around that, then why not go away and fight another stiff- a home town favorite- and get a better reception to hungry fight fans in another jurisdiction?

A #15 ranked John Johnson from New York for $500k is not as much as a Sergei Labachinko in Russia for $3 mil. Get it?

We have this assumption that only the US and Germany can pay top dollar. Nah, man. South Africa, Philippines, Australia, the UK, France, Italy, Macao, Malaysia and Russia can all get you a relatively better payday than $1 mil for little to less risk than fighting someone who feels he is someone, or of the same caliber, in the USA.

Plus, it boosts his marketing around the world. Makes him more appealing to a world wide audience and hence get paid more in the long term, particularly with PPVs and people who may actually travel to see him; endorsements and things of that nature.

Smartest thing I liked about Roy Jones and to a GREAT extent, Floyd Mayweather, who did a Roy Jones Xs 100, was to get endorsements. RJJ with Nike and Floyd with Hublot and Gucci.

[Alpha]

You also run the risk of being labelled a cherry picker. There are decent challenges outside Thurman, Crawford, Porter and Garcia to keep him busy, Campo, Alexander, Ugas or Skeete if necessary, fight and beat good comp until the others have nowhere else to turn and can avoid him no longer. I do think he needs to keep busy, can't argue with endorsements but don't think it's necessary for him to travel again yet.

[Master]

Floyd could not have any endorsements because he was always getting himself into trouble.

[Spicoli]

You also need the constant exposure to get the drive and fan following for the big bucks. Networks are not giving up prime dates to broadcast from Malaysia or Timbuktu so Spence can vaporize Kenny Gettup or Dusty Trunx and fans will call bs on it. He may make some coin but it lessens the bigger 'payoff' in long run. I think as simple as it sounds the best thing a guy in Spence shoes can do is keep playing the boogeyman and keep Thurman and company in check and on notice. It's a catch 22..you don't want a guy clamoring at every turn as it eventually makes you a follower and not the leader that majority of fans see him as already. Actually elevates in a way the opponent that is already clearly avoiding the other. Stay humble and keep hammering nails for all to see and calling on the very best competition. Spence doesn't strike me as the type to go gimmicky or public trolling where he makes t shirts or starts carrying around a cardboard cut out of 'Part-time' Thurman but that's another avenue.

[Primo Carnera]

Floyd could not have any endorsements because he was always getting himself into trouble.

Are you STILL talking about Floyd?

[Master]

Floyd could not have any endorsements because he was always getting himself into trouble.

Are you STILL talking about Floyd?

He was mentioned in the post above mines and it was relevant