Let fighters juice....

[Silkeyjoe]

Surprised that GGG is still going ahead with the fight, despite potential danger of an athlete who failed a drug test hitting him.
He must be confident or really need the money

Probably both, he has the moral victory already, ran Canelo out of the ring and will not get a bigger purse fighting anyone else.

Probably assumes he was on the juice last time so what is there to fear now.

[Boxer4life]

Surprised that GGG is still going ahead with the fight, despite potential danger of an athlete who failed a drug test hitting him.
He must be confident or really need the money

Probably both, he has the moral victory already, ran Canelo out of the ring and will not get a bigger purse fighting anyone else.

Probably assumes he was on the juice last time so what is there to fear now.

Yeah i agree with the last statement. It's too bad because Canelo is in a lose lose situation regardless.

If he wins, its cuz he was on the juice. If he loses, it's because he didnt have the juice.

[holmcall]

http://www.thesweetscience.com/feature-articles/48845-jim-lampley-weigh-problem-ped-use-survey

[hfahrenheit]

They already are; if they can afford it, they are doing it.

The BALCO scandal was 10+ years ago, and look at the range and scope of it...if you're not familiar, the indictments were across every major sport, and named Shane Mosely and a bunch of other dudes.

But, the actual discussion has moved on from "juicing," it's a now a matter of taking a substance that isn't banned, but has the same net impact as a banned substance--is that cheating?

drug testing and governing body's don't do research and development, therefore they will always be behind those who do.

Remember, "juicing" is from the 50's and 60's, and EPO/HGH from at least the 80's... who actually knows where they are now. If you look across sports, EVERYONE is better shape, more muscular by far, (especially basketball).

[Master]

They already are; if they can afford it, they are doing it.

The BALCO scandal was 10+ years ago, and look at the range and scope of it...if you're not familiar, the indictments were across every major sport, and named Shane Mosely and a bunch of other dudes.

But, the actual discussion has moved on from "juicing," it's a now a matter of taking a substance that isn't banned, but has the same net impact as a banned substance--is that cheating?

drug testing and governing body's don't do research and development, therefore they will always be behind those who do.

Remember, "juicing" is from the 50's and 60's, and EPO/HGH from at least the 80's... who actually knows where they are now. If you look across sports, EVERYONE is better shape, more muscular by far, (especially basketball).

I thought that was down to better nutrition, diet, exercises and evolution.

[holmcall]

They already are; if they can afford it, they are doing it.

The BALCO scandal was 10+ years ago, and look at the range and scope of it...if you're not familiar, the indictments were across every major sport, and named Shane Mosely and a bunch of other dudes.

But, the actual discussion has moved on from "juicing," it's a now a matter of taking a substance that isn't banned, but has the same net impact as a banned substance--is that cheating?

drug testing and governing body's don't do research and development, therefore they will always be behind those who do.

Remember, "juicing" is from the 50's and 60's, and EPO/HGH from at least the 80's... who actually knows where they are now. If you look across sports, EVERYONE is better shape, more muscular by far, (especially basketball).

I thought that was down to better nutrition, diet, exercises and evolution.

Creatine was used by may in the beginning and still is. Reefer can mask well as long as you mask reefer. Remember East Gera man women back in the day who looked like men and we very hairy (ugh) but strong. Wonder if they had d--ks?

[hfahrenheit]

Definitely a part of it, but not exclusive to it. There's an American football player named Ray Lewis who was caught taking some form of an deer antler--can you imagine Deer antler is a banned substance? There's an entire industry dedicated to a thin, legal difference between "supplement" and "substance."

The strangest--I think--is that's it's illegal to take things FROM your own body, (red blood cells, hormone, etc), stock pile them, and then use them to train/perform with.

They already are; if they can afford it, they are doing it.

The BALCO scandal was 10+ years ago, and look at the range and scope of it...if you're not familiar, the indictments were across every major sport, and named Shane Mosely and a bunch of other dudes.

But, the actual discussion has moved on from "juicing," it's a now a matter of taking a substance that isn't banned, but has the same net impact as a banned substance--is that cheating?

drug testing and governing body's don't do research and development, therefore they will always be behind those who do.

Remember, "juicing" is from the 50's and 60's, and EPO/HGH from at least the 80's... who actually knows where they are now. If you look across sports, EVERYONE is better shape, more muscular by far, (especially basketball).

I thought that was down to better nutrition, diet, exercises and evolution.

[El Kabong]

Ah yes deer antler spray

Ray Lewis and Deer-Antler Spray: Just What Is This Stuff?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-is-this-stuff




I do wonder that if all sports were like the WWF in the 1980's and no drug was off limits who would be the absolute greatest athletes in each sport.


I also would feel bad for Lance Armstrong (I DO feel bad for Floyd Landis) because cycling is the dirtiest sport there is going, but Lance Armstrong was a jackass. He was going to go after Greg LeMonde because Greg was asking questions about Lance being clean. Fucking asshole that Lance Armstrong.