Trump meeting rocket man

[El Kabong]

Yes Lyle, it'll no longer exist because the USSC refused to allow the GOP to keep gerrymandering the entire state and a lower court has now drawn up entirely new state districts that mean the GOP no longer have a massive inbuilt advantage. In 2012 Democratic candidates won more votes statewide in PA House elections and Obama won the state. But Republicans won 13 seats and Democrats just won five. So in November Lamb will be running in a new district much more favourable to him and the Democrats will likely pick up a bunch of House seats elsewhere in PA. And it is a huge win Lyle. Even Trump turning up for a rally and imposing tariffs didn't stop the GOP losing. It portends the Democrats winning back the House, which means subpoena power, which means endless investigations. Alexa, order all the popcorn. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...districts-2018 As I was saying yesterday Trump is on a competent person sacking spree. Cohn and Tillerson gone in the last week and now McMaster is next for the chop apparently. Trump's new Chief Economic Advisor is apparently going to be Larry Kudlow. If you google Larry Kudlow always wrong or Larry Kudlow stupidest man alive you'll get a good idea about Kudlow in particular and the triumph of ideology over reality in the GOP in general. It really does look like Trump is firing all the qualified/competent people in his administration and replacing them with an elite team of blithering idiots.

Democrats do it = Redistricting
Republicans do it = Gerrymandering

If Republicans had such a massive advantage in Pennsylvania then why had no Republican Presidential candidate won Pennsylvania since Reagan? If it was SUCH a massive advantage explain all the Democrat Governors. Please do.

"In 2012 Democratic candidates won more votes statewide in PA House elections and Obama won the state. But Republicans won 13 seats and Democrats just won five."
...could be that the Democrat areas were HEAVILY Democrat (like say PHILADELPHIA) and other areas highly contested, but I'm CERTAIN it is just as evil as you describe it because the Democrats are incapable of such evil and surely ONLY Republicans gerrymander.

The Democrat candidate in question ran a Republican campaign: pro-2nd Amendment, anti-Pelosi, reaching across the isle to work with opposition party, not taking PAC money...it's almost like Hillary Clinton ran his campaign herself

Order all that popcorn and blow it out your ass.....VOX?!?!?! You're the very worst kind of partisan the kind who projects that they are middle of the road.

"It really does look like Trump is firing all the qualified/competent people in his administration and replacing them with an elite team of blithering idiots"
Par for the course according to you, I didn't think that you could think any less of who Trump already had in there, but here we are.

[El Kabong]

Why no, carrying a tiny doll of Obama in your purse is not at all weird. Why do you ask?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...why-do-you-ask

“It’s easy to look at what’s happening in Washington DC and despair. That’s why I carry a little plastic Obama doll in my purse. I pull him out every now and then to remind myself that the United States had a progressive, African American president until very recently. Some people find this strange, but you have to take comfort where you can find it in Donald Trump’s America.”

You carry your lil Obama dolly around Kirk?

[Kirkland Laing]

Yes Lyle, it'll no longer exist because the USSC refused to allow the GOP to keep gerrymandering the entire state and a lower court has now drawn up entirely new state districts that mean the GOP no longer have a massive inbuilt advantage. In 2012 Democratic candidates won more votes statewide in PA House elections and Obama won the state. But Republicans won 13 seats and Democrats just won five. So in November Lamb will be running in a new district much more favourable to him and the Democrats will likely pick up a bunch of House seats elsewhere in PA. And it is a huge win Lyle. Even Trump turning up for a rally and imposing tariffs didn't stop the GOP losing. It portends the Democrats winning back the House, which means subpoena power, which means endless investigations. Alexa, order all the popcorn. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...districts-2018 As I was saying yesterday Trump is on a competent person sacking spree. Cohn and Tillerson gone in the last week and now McMaster is next for the chop apparently. Trump's new Chief Economic Advisor is apparently going to be Larry Kudlow. If you google Larry Kudlow always wrong or Larry Kudlow stupidest man alive you'll get a good idea about Kudlow in particular and the triumph of ideology over reality in the GOP in general. It really does look like Trump is firing all the qualified/competent people in his administration and replacing them with an elite team of blithering idiots.

Democrats do it = Redistricting
Republicans do it = Gerrymandering

If Republicans had such a massive advantage in Pennsylvania then why had no Republican Presidential candidate won Pennsylvania since Reagan? If it was SUCH a massive advantage explain all the Democrat Governors. Please do.

"In 2012 Democratic candidates won more votes statewide in PA House elections and Obama won the state. But Republicans won 13 seats and Democrats just won five."
...could be that the Democrat areas were HEAVILY Democrat (like say PHILADELPHIA) and other areas highly contested, but I'm CERTAIN it is just as evil as you describe it because the Democrats are incapable of such evil and surely ONLY Republicans gerrymander.

The Democrat candidate in question ran a Republican campaign: pro-2nd Amendment, anti-Pelosi, reaching across the isle to work with opposition party, not taking PAC money...it's almost like Hillary Clinton ran his campaign herself

Order all that popcorn and blow it out your ass.....VOX?!?!?! You're the very worst kind of partisan the kind who projects that they are middle of the road.

"It really does look like Trump is firing all the qualified/competent people in his administration and replacing them with an elite team of blithering idiots"
Par for the course according to you, I didn't think that you could think any less of who Trump already had in there, but here we are.

This post is like Lyle bingo. After having made a completely ignorant statement that is disproved by facts double down on the stupid with a ridiculous argument that just made a ten year old girl laugh out loud when I got her to read it (she said "he's trolling you", I said no he really is that dumb ), dismiss a factual article full of linked checkable facts as rubbish because you don't like the source, BLOCK CAPS. I call stupid house. Ffs Lyle.

You made my brother's daughter laugh though. God bless you.

Here's some more GOP gerrymandering from your home state.

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/...197852639.html

[El Kabong]

This post is like Lyle bingo. After having made a completely ignorant statement that is disproved by facts double down on the stupid with a ridiculous argument that just made a ten year old girl laugh out loud when I got her to read it (she said "he's trolling you", I said no he really is that dumb ), dismiss a factual article full of linked checkable facts as rubbish because you don't like the source, BLOCK CAPS. I call stupid house. Ffs Lyle.

You made my brother's daughter laugh though. God bless you.

Here's some more GOP gerrymandering from your home state.

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/...197852639.html

If you wish to read and believe Ezra Klein or Matthew Yglesias or David Corn, that's fine go right ahead and just take everything they write as the gospel truth. I'm not stopping you, but I'm not taking them as "middle of the road" "non partisan" objective journalists because they aren't and that is an absolute undeniable fact. The head of Vox, Ezra Klein started the JournoList...ever hear of the JournoList? I mean you wouldn't care anyway because you're sympathetic to their views.

NC =/= PA not sure if you understand redistricting or geography but those are actual things which you might want to actually learn about.


Cute you have a "woke" niece....that's lovely....I let my dog read your post and he called you a faggot so there ya go

[walrus]

This post is like Lyle bingo. After having made a completely ignorant statement that is disproved by facts double down on the stupid with a ridiculous argument that just made a ten year old girl laugh out loud when I got her to read it (she said "he's trolling you", I said no he really is that dumb ), dismiss a factual article full of linked checkable facts as rubbish because you don't like the source, BLOCK CAPS. I call stupid house. Ffs Lyle.

You made my brother's daughter laugh though. God bless you.

Here's some more GOP gerrymandering from your home state.

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/...197852639.html

If you wish to read and believe Ezra Klein or Matthew Yglesias or David Corn, that's fine go right ahead and just take everything they write as the gospel truth. I'm not stopping you, but I'm not taking them as "middle of the road" "non partisan" objective journalists because they aren't and that is an absolute undeniable fact. The head of Vox, Ezra Klein started the JournoList...ever hear of the JournoList? I mean you wouldn't care anyway because you're sympathetic to their views.

NC =/= PA not sure if you understand redistricting or geography but those are actual things which you might want to actually learn about.


Cute you have a "woke" niece....that's lovely....I let my dog read your post and he called you a faggot so there ya go

Ha ha lyles dog called Kirk gay, top that one Kirk

[Gandalf]

Get your dog behind the keyboard, Lyle because that's Kirk's only chance in FGOTY.

[Beanz]

Just more Lyle posting what he wants to be true and then refusing to engage in debate when he gets confronted with what is widely reported as actually having happened by Kirkland.

[walrus]

Just more Lyle posting what he wants to be true and then refusing to engage in debate when he gets confronted with what is widely reported as actually having happened by Kirkland.

Good point and Kirk only tells the truth

[Beanz]

Just more Lyle posting what he wants to be true and then refusing to engage in debate when he gets confronted with what is widely reported as actually having happened by Kirkland.

Good point and Kirk only tells the truth

He is certainly more objective, which is why Lyle has to invent the lie that he Kirkland is a Hilary supporter etc. We have never subscribed to the binary polemic of red or blue quite so much in the UK, until recently, and yet yourself and Lyle seem unable to accept the fact that non of us criticizing Trump were ever Obama or Clinton supporters. Quite the opposite. It doesn't fit the narrative though and so you all insist on trying to lower the bar and make it all about binary politics. Everyone is rendered into a meme and opinons or life experience etc is ignored in favour of point scoring rubbish. For a millennial hipster like Lyle who thinks the interweb and TV he chooses to watch represents reality, I get it, but I assumed you were a bit more old school and would have seen the bullshit from every administration, just as we have here, whoever is in power.

[El Kabong]

Just more Lyle posting what he wants to be true and then refusing to engage in debate when he gets confronted with what is widely reported as actually having happened by Kirkland.

Good point and Kirk only tells the truth

He is certainly more objective, which is why Lyle has to invent the lie that he Kirkland is a Hilary supporter etc. We have never subscribed to the binary polemic of red or blue quite so much in the UK, until recently, and yet yourself and Lyle seem unable to accept the fact that non of us criticizing Trump were ever Obama or Clinton supporters. Quite the opposite. It doesn't fit the narrative though and so you all insist on trying to lower the bar and make it all about binary politics. Everyone is rendered into a meme and opinons or life experience etc is ignored in favour of point scoring rubbish. For a millennial hipster like Lyle who thinks the interweb and TV he chooses to watch represents reality, I get it, but I assumed you were a bit more old school and would have seen the bullshit from every administration, just as we have here, whoever is in power.

Alright then @Beanz who did Kirkland support in the election? He wasn't for Trump, you're telling me he wasn't for Hillary....was he for Gary Johnson the Libertarian? Was he for Jill Stein of the Green Party? Was he for Evan McMullin who ran as an Independent? Was he for Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party? Because those were the only people running. Maybe he was for Bernie Sanders, maybe he was THAT naive (that's a lot of naive seeing how the old Socialist allowed himself to be bought off to lose that primary and everyone knows it....well maybe Kirk doesn't fathom that just yet). If Kirkland didn't support ANY of those folks then he's just a Trump hater which is hardly an objective position.

I don't understand why you are even in here Beanz, you're not American, you don't seem to care for Americans, and you certainly don't come over to vote. So I guess you just feel this urge to stick up for Kirkland which I guess good on you for helping him out maybe he'll give you some charts and graphs in return.

So you've opted to not call me a Nazi but a "millennial hipster" ....ok that's progress I guess

[Beanz]

Lyle there is a world of difference between pointing a massive flaw in your base for starting an argument and me calling your country "A joke of a country" or constantly moaning about what it has become which is what none of the British posters her would ever do (Miles does not count). It's all you drone on about. I have no problem with Americans. You, Walrus and Brockton hardly represent most Americans, you don't even represent most American posters here. You are an aberration.

And you anti-free speech thing is getting so old now. You can call me what you like. I just don't like my family being brought into it, which is a line you at least never crossed.

[El Kabong]

Lyle there is a world of difference between pointing a massive flaw in your base for starting an argument and me calling your country "A joke of a country" or constantly moaning about what it has become which is what none of the British posters her would ever do (Miles does not count). It's all you drone on about. I have no problem with Americans. You, Walrus and Brockton hardly represent most Americans, you don't even represent most American posters here. You are an aberration.

And you anti-free speech thing is getting so old now. You can call me what you like. I just don't like my family being brought into it, which is a line you at least never crossed.

So you're just not going to address ANYTHING I fucking asked you? Why bother responding? What did you hope to achieve by posting this? You've not answered any of the questions I've asked, you're extremely vague on where I'm supposedly wrong, and for the last time, I'm not forcing you to read my posts. Fuck your family I don't give a shit about them, stop trying to hide behind them and answer a God damned question or just hey here's an idea leave me alone and don't read my posts you'd probably be happier doing that.

[Beanz]

Lyle there is a world of difference between pointing a massive flaw in your base for starting an argument and me calling your country "A joke of a country" or constantly moaning about what it has become which is what none of the British posters her would ever do (Miles does not count). It's all you drone on about. I have no problem with Americans. You, Walrus and Brockton hardly represent most Americans, you don't even represent most American posters here. You are an aberration.

And you anti-free speech thing is getting so old now. You can call me what you like. I just don't like my family being brought into it, which is a line you at least never crossed.

So you're just not going to address ANYTHING I fucking asked you? Why bother responding? What did you hope to achieve by posting this? You've not answered any of the questions I've asked, you're extremely vague on where I'm supposedly wrong, and for the last time, I'm not forcing you to read my posts. Fuck your family I don't give a shit about them, stop trying to hide behind them and answer a God damned question or just hey here's an idea leave me alone and don't read my posts you'd probably be happier doing that.

You said "I don't even understand why you are in here Beanz" and so I answered that. Are you trying to police, moderate or overthrow the forum then? You certainly are not here to debate anything.

[El Kabong]

Lyle there is a world of difference between pointing a massive flaw in your base for starting an argument and me calling your country "A joke of a country" or constantly moaning about what it has become which is what none of the British posters her would ever do (Miles does not count). It's all you drone on about. I have no problem with Americans. You, Walrus and Brockton hardly represent most Americans, you don't even represent most American posters here. You are an aberration.

And you anti-free speech thing is getting so old now. You can call me what you like. I just don't like my family being brought into it, which is a line you at least never crossed.

So you're just not going to address ANYTHING I fucking asked you? Why bother responding? What did you hope to achieve by posting this? You've not answered any of the questions I've asked, you're extremely vague on where I'm supposedly wrong, and for the last time, I'm not forcing you to read my posts. Fuck your family I don't give a shit about them, stop trying to hide behind them and answer a God damned question or just hey here's an idea leave me alone and don't read my posts you'd probably be happier doing that.

You said "I don't even understand why you are in here Beanz" and so I answered that. Are you trying to police, moderate or overthrow the forum then? You certainly are not here to debate anything.

You believe you answered that? Then ok, if you say so.

I'm not policing or moderating anything. When you disagree with my posts I expect reasons, explanations, use of facts to dismantle my argument....this might come as a shock to you, but when you respond to my posts you do absolutely none of that which is infuriating.

I can't debate because you don't know how to and it takes two to tango. I begin to wonder if you wear velcro shoes and a helmet because I've explained time and time again, what you do isn't debating, it isn't arguing, it's insults and drivel. You don't ever post "You're wrong on these points and here is why you're wrong" now you might get irritated when I number or bullet point my posts but there's a reason why I do that. I'm trying to make it easier for people to follow along and I'm making points about certain sections of the post i'm responding to.

[Spicoli]

So Trump Korea yeh. Thread has turned into another slap fight on the open board surprise surprise. I'd like to invite the two of you to ignore one another if you can't sort it out. And ffs all concerned lets leave families out of it.

Anyone have the specifics on what Trump tweeted about South Korea? Going out on a limb and saying this 'meet' doesn't happen in May. Wasn't sure about Tilerson but he was dismissed with less respect than a failed dishwasher. No idea on Pompao and not sure bullfrog with the jacked up haircut has even responded to Trump??