Definitely a part of it, but not exclusive to it. There's an American football player named Ray Lewis who was caught taking some form of an deer antler--can you imagine Deer antler is a banned substance? There's an entire industry dedicated to a thin, legal difference between "supplement" and "substance."

The strangest--I think--is that's it's illegal to take things FROM your own body, (red blood cells, hormone, etc), stock pile them, and then use them to train/perform with.

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They already are; if they can afford it, they are doing it.

The BALCO scandal was 10+ years ago, and look at the range and scope of it...if you're not familiar, the indictments were across every major sport, and named Shane Mosely and a bunch of other dudes.

But, the actual discussion has moved on from "juicing," it's a now a matter of taking a substance that isn't banned, but has the same net impact as a banned substance--is that cheating?

drug testing and governing body's don't do research and development, therefore they will always be behind those who do.

Remember, "juicing" is from the 50's and 60's, and EPO/HGH from at least the 80's... who actually knows where they are now. If you look across sports, EVERYONE is better shape, more muscular by far, (especially basketball).
I thought that was down to better nutrition, diet, exercises and evolution.