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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
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    becaaaaaaaaause.....................
    Because he is a bit chinny and gases mid fight. Wilder will lay it on him when the moment is right and I don't think Joshua can stand up to a full on windmill blast.
    As was demonstrated by his going 12 rounds in his last fight with plenty to spare and getting off the floor and TKOing a dominant champ in the one two fights before that
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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanz View Post
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    becaaaaaaaaause.....................
    Because he is a bit chinny and gases mid fight. Wilder will lay it on him when the moment is right and I don't think Joshua can stand up to a full on windmill blast.
    As was demonstrated by his going 12 rounds in his last fight with plenty to spare and getting off the floor and TKOing a dominant champ in the one two fights before that
    Joshua gassed in the middle rounds again and that version of Wlad was herky jerky like an old Shane Mosley and still had Joshua gassing in the middle rounds. Wilder isn't going to gas. He is going to be biding his time and when he wants to up the pace he will and Joshua won't be able to keep up. Joshua will be pulling the tape off his gloves with his teeth, begging the ref to call a break. His only chance is to get that last referee back in there. Wilder will knock out the referee and still continue with the windmill. Wilder is an odd, odd fighter and he always finds a way.

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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

    When has Wilder gone 12 Rounds? He can quite clearly be out boxed and if he actually has the bottle to face anyone of note it will be obvious. Ortiz is not even worth half a Wlad, shot or not. I get that after 40 fights Wilder fans are quite eager to ignore reality, but it is getting pretty desperate when they have to parrot Wilder's promoter and accuse Joshua of cheating in a fight the big old loudmouth Wilder was terrified to attend.



    Wilder is a terrible excuse for a heavyweight fighter, and a pretty despicable human being, as are all those who wish for the death of others in the ring, but he is going to run out of places to hide soon and then he will regret being such a fool. Tailor made for Joshua.
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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

    He won the title over the distance, I don't think there's an issue there for Wilder, but he basically had everything his own way in that fight, Stivern did nowt. Same goes for Joshua really, he won at a canter against Parker. When they've been extended in tough fights, both of them have had their mountains to climb, which they have done.

    Joshua I still feel has something of an identity issue going on. As I've said before, the template is there, 6'5, good jab, you'd be a fool not to try and control your opponent with it from the outside and drop the right hand in on cue. I still feel despite his size and stature that Joshua is more effective up close ripping hooks and uppercuts in and I think he feels more comfortable too.

    Wilder for all his faults I feel is at one with who he is and what he is. He isn't a great boxer, he knows it, we all know it, but he's a hard bastard with a cracking punch and he works with it.

    Wilder's war is with his opponent only, that's why I slightly favour him.
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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

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    He won the title over the distance, I don't think there's an issue there for Wilder, but he basically had everything his own way in that fight, Stivern did nowt. Same goes for Joshua really, he won at a canter against Parker. When they've been extended in tough fights, both of them have had their mountains to climb, which they have done.

    Joshua I still feel has something of an identity issue going on. As I've said before, the template is there, 6'5, good jab, you'd be a fool not to try and control your opponent with it from the outside and drop the right hand in on cue. I still feel despite his size and stature that Joshua is more effective up close ripping hooks and uppercuts in and I think he feels more comfortable too.

    Wilder for all his faults I feel is at one with who he is and what he is. He isn't a great boxer, he knows it, we all know it, but he's a hard bastard with a cracking punch and he works with it.

    Wilder's war is with his opponent only, that's why I slightly favour him.


    Why thank you for the clinical analysis.

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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

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    He won the title over the distance, I don't think there's an issue there for Wilder, but he basically had everything his own way in that fight, Stivern did nowt. Same goes for Joshua really, he won at a canter against Parker. When they've been extended in tough fights, both of them have had their mountains to climb, which they have done.

    Joshua I still feel has something of an identity issue going on. As I've said before, the template is there, 6'5, good jab, you'd be a fool not to try and control your opponent with it from the outside and drop the right hand in on cue. I still feel despite his size and stature that Joshua is more effective up close ripping hooks and uppercuts in and I think he feels more comfortable too.

    Wilder for all his faults I feel is at one with who he is and what he is. He isn't a great boxer, he knows it, we all know it, but he's a hard bastard with a cracking punch and he works with it.

    Wilder's war is with his opponent only, that's why I slightly favour him.


    Why thank you for the clinical analysis.
    My own clinical analysis is that Wilder can't box and is arguably one of the most overblown piss useless heavyweights ever, I repeat, there are 4 or 5 European heavyweights who would stuff him, the money game is to get a couple of them in before Joshua, then Joshua beats them and unifies. We all know that Wilder is seriously crap and beatable, its just money juggling and games from anxious promoters now.

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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

    From their last outings, how anyone can conclude that Wilder has any chance other than a decapitation is beyond me (some people have described him as slick and a superior technician/mover, i'd love a go in their heads ).

    Wilder got his head boxed off by a man controlling the pace and distance yet averaging just 2 jabs a round (that's a real stat). Wilder literally spent the entire fight with his right hand cocked waiting for a chance to fire, he couldn't implement his own jab, which has only ever been impressive once against a statue (Stiverne), and can't fight on the inside.

    He was getting outboxed by Washington and struggled in patches, especially when backed up, with several opponents before the equalizer got him out of trouble.

    However, his equalizer is so funking dangerous that it's impossible to write him off against anyone. There's nothing wrong with his fitness, he proved against Ortiz he has the bollocks when getting whooped, is clearly gifted physically (I think his "skinny" frame looks better than AJ's bulkier build) and mentally a crazy bastard (which works well for him).

    Joshua, for all his knockers, has shown just about everything a lump of his stature can. He has good speed, explosive power and the goolies, shown he can fight inside or out, have a punchup or be "boring." He does a decent impression of both Lewis and Tyson in patches (no, i'm not calling him a new Lewis/Tyson, he imitates them to the best of his ability).

    Joshua is improving all the the time (the "boring" stuff is clearly the way forward for longevity, even though it will turn the casuals against him), whereas Wilder has accepted he is what he is - a straight out killer.

    Personally, as i've stated, Wilder has only one chance. Without the advantage of height and levers he's reduced to guessing when it's safe to swing. I believe Joshua will find it much easier to time his right hand than he did against the awkward (self-preservation minded) Parker, and forcing Wilder backwards it'll take one or two good clumps to have him in barney. I honestly believe Joshua will take him out inside 6 minutes.
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