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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

    He won the title over the distance, I don't think there's an issue there for Wilder, but he basically had everything his own way in that fight, Stivern did nowt. Same goes for Joshua really, he won at a canter against Parker. When they've been extended in tough fights, both of them have had their mountains to climb, which they have done.

    Joshua I still feel has something of an identity issue going on. As I've said before, the template is there, 6'5, good jab, you'd be a fool not to try and control your opponent with it from the outside and drop the right hand in on cue. I still feel despite his size and stature that Joshua is more effective up close ripping hooks and uppercuts in and I think he feels more comfortable too.

    Wilder for all his faults I feel is at one with who he is and what he is. He isn't a great boxer, he knows it, we all know it, but he's a hard bastard with a cracking punch and he works with it.

    Wilder's war is with his opponent only, that's why I slightly favour him.
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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    He won the title over the distance, I don't think there's an issue there for Wilder, but he basically had everything his own way in that fight, Stivern did nowt. Same goes for Joshua really, he won at a canter against Parker. When they've been extended in tough fights, both of them have had their mountains to climb, which they have done.

    Joshua I still feel has something of an identity issue going on. As I've said before, the template is there, 6'5, good jab, you'd be a fool not to try and control your opponent with it from the outside and drop the right hand in on cue. I still feel despite his size and stature that Joshua is more effective up close ripping hooks and uppercuts in and I think he feels more comfortable too.

    Wilder for all his faults I feel is at one with who he is and what he is. He isn't a great boxer, he knows it, we all know it, but he's a hard bastard with a cracking punch and he works with it.

    Wilder's war is with his opponent only, that's why I slightly favour him.


    Why thank you for the clinical analysis.

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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    He won the title over the distance, I don't think there's an issue there for Wilder, but he basically had everything his own way in that fight, Stivern did nowt. Same goes for Joshua really, he won at a canter against Parker. When they've been extended in tough fights, both of them have had their mountains to climb, which they have done.

    Joshua I still feel has something of an identity issue going on. As I've said before, the template is there, 6'5, good jab, you'd be a fool not to try and control your opponent with it from the outside and drop the right hand in on cue. I still feel despite his size and stature that Joshua is more effective up close ripping hooks and uppercuts in and I think he feels more comfortable too.

    Wilder for all his faults I feel is at one with who he is and what he is. He isn't a great boxer, he knows it, we all know it, but he's a hard bastard with a cracking punch and he works with it.

    Wilder's war is with his opponent only, that's why I slightly favour him.


    Why thank you for the clinical analysis.
    My own clinical analysis is that Wilder can't box and is arguably one of the most overblown piss useless heavyweights ever, I repeat, there are 4 or 5 European heavyweights who would stuff him, the money game is to get a couple of them in before Joshua, then Joshua beats them and unifies. We all know that Wilder is seriously crap and beatable, its just money juggling and games from anxious promoters now.

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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

    From their last outings, how anyone can conclude that Wilder has any chance other than a decapitation is beyond me (some people have described him as slick and a superior technician/mover, i'd love a go in their heads ).

    Wilder got his head boxed off by a man controlling the pace and distance yet averaging just 2 jabs a round (that's a real stat). Wilder literally spent the entire fight with his right hand cocked waiting for a chance to fire, he couldn't implement his own jab, which has only ever been impressive once against a statue (Stiverne), and can't fight on the inside.

    He was getting outboxed by Washington and struggled in patches, especially when backed up, with several opponents before the equalizer got him out of trouble.

    However, his equalizer is so funking dangerous that it's impossible to write him off against anyone. There's nothing wrong with his fitness, he proved against Ortiz he has the bollocks when getting whooped, is clearly gifted physically (I think his "skinny" frame looks better than AJ's bulkier build) and mentally a crazy bastard (which works well for him).

    Joshua, for all his knockers, has shown just about everything a lump of his stature can. He has good speed, explosive power and the goolies, shown he can fight inside or out, have a punchup or be "boring." He does a decent impression of both Lewis and Tyson in patches (no, i'm not calling him a new Lewis/Tyson, he imitates them to the best of his ability).

    Joshua is improving all the the time (the "boring" stuff is clearly the way forward for longevity, even though it will turn the casuals against him), whereas Wilder has accepted he is what he is - a straight out killer.

    Personally, as i've stated, Wilder has only one chance. Without the advantage of height and levers he's reduced to guessing when it's safe to swing. I believe Joshua will find it much easier to time his right hand than he did against the awkward (self-preservation minded) Parker, and forcing Wilder backwards it'll take one or two good clumps to have him in barney. I honestly believe Joshua will take him out inside 6 minutes.
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    Default Re: AJ - Wilder: Let's be clinical

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    From their last outings, how anyone can conclude that Wilder has any chance other than a decapitation is beyond me (some people have described him as slick and a superior technician/mover, i'd love a go in their heads ).

    Wilder got his head boxed off by a man controlling the pace and distance yet averaging just 2 jabs a round (that's a real stat). Wilder literally spent the entire fight with his right hand cocked waiting for a chance to fire, he couldn't implement his own jab, which has only ever been impressive once against a statue (Stiverne), and can't fight on the inside.

    He was getting outboxed by Washington and struggled in patches, especially when backed up, with several opponents before the equalizer got him out of trouble.

    However, his equalizer is so funking dangerous that it's impossible to write him off against anyone. There's nothing wrong with his fitness, he proved against Ortiz he has the bollocks when getting whooped, is clearly gifted physically (I think his "skinny" frame looks better than AJ's bulkier build) and mentally a crazy bastard (which works well for him).

    Joshua, for all his knockers, has shown just about everything a lump of his stature can. He has good speed, explosive power and the goolies, shown he can fight inside or out, have a punchup or be "boring." He does a decent impression of both Lewis and Tyson in patches (no, i'm not calling him a new Lewis/Tyson, he imitates them to the best of his ability).

    Joshua is improving all the the time (the "boring" stuff is clearly the way forward for longevity, even though it will turn the casuals against him), whereas Wilder has accepted he is what he is - a straight out killer.

    Personally, as i've stated, Wilder has only one chance. Without the advantage of height and levers he's reduced to guessing when it's safe to swing. I believe Joshua will find it much easier to time his right hand than he did against the awkward (self-preservation minded) Parker, and forcing Wilder backwards it'll take one or two good clumps to have him in barney. I honestly believe Joshua will take him out inside 6 minutes.
    Agree with all of that except I don't think it will happen that quickly.
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