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    Be honest with yourselves. Are you really trying to use Wilder's past fights against powderpuffs to gauge what his following would be for a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, the likes of which haven't been seen in decades? So because the American public has been slow to warm up to Wilder, they would stay home or tune in to something else if and when they find out Wilder is going to be fighting the great AJ? There's two sides to this coin, and it amazes me how many people are only willing to look at one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Be honest with yourselves. Are you really trying to use Wilder's past fights against powderpuffs to gauge what his following would be for a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, the likes of which haven't been seen in decades? So because the American public has been slow to warm up to Wilder, they would stay home or tune in to something else if and when they find out Wilder is going to be fighting the great AJ? There's two sides to this coin, and it amazes me how many people are only willing to look at one.
    1. Why have the Americans been”slow to warm up” to Wilder? Ans. because he doesn’t compare with what went before him.
    2. AJ isn’t a great, nowhere near it, he’s the best of the current bunch, that’s all. Consequently , that’s why it won’t sell on a Saturday afternoon in the States.
    3. If I’m wrong and it is a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, and it is a $100 million fight, then Wilder’s team will have no trouble stumping up an offer to get AJ over there. And if AJ refuses to take the bait, then they can start to say AJ is ducking Wilder.
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    See below.



    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Be honest with yourselves. Are you really trying to use Wilder's past fights against powderpuffs to gauge what his following would be for a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, the likes of which haven't been seen in decades? So because the American public has been slow to warm up to Wilder, they would stay home or tune in to something else if and when they find out Wilder is going to be fighting the great AJ? There's two sides to this coin, and it amazes me how many people are only willing to look at one.
    1. Why have the Americans been”slow to warm up” to Wilder? Ans. because he doesn’t compare with what went before him.

    Things don't occur in a time vacuum. Prior to AJ and Wilder there was Wlad, the boxing equivalent of a gigantic chloroform blanket over U.S. boxing fandom... for well over a decade. Waking up from this slumber takes more than one or two fights. It doesn't help that Wilder started off his career fighting a multitude of bums. He's since corrected that.


    2. AJ isn’t a great, nowhere near it, he’s the best of the current bunch, that’s all. Consequently , that’s why it won’t sell on a Saturday afternoon in the States.

    The guy who dethroned Wlad?? (I don't count Fury). In one of the most exciting heavyweight title fights in recent memory?? Now you're selling AJ short. So he's basically God in the UK.... but a nobody in the States? Nah... I don't buy it.

    3. If I’m wrong and it is a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, and it is a $100 million fight, then Wilder’s team will have no trouble stumping up an offer to get AJ over there. And if AJ refuses to take the bait, then they can start to say AJ is ducking Wilder.

    One thing I'll agree on with everyone else is that Wilder's team is shitty at self-promotion. I can't say where the fight should be, other than to also agree it would have a much bigger gate in the UK than in the States. They're both undefeated champions, representing countries with a vast tradition of boxing rivalry. All I'm saying is that should be worth something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    See below.



    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Be honest with yourselves. Are you really trying to use Wilder's past fights against powderpuffs to gauge what his following would be for a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, the likes of which haven't been seen in decades? So because the American public has been slow to warm up to Wilder, they would stay home or tune in to something else if and when they find out Wilder is going to be fighting the great AJ? There's two sides to this coin, and it amazes me how many people are only willing to look at one.
    1. Why have the Americans been”slow to warm up” to Wilder? Ans. because he doesn’t compare with what went before him.

    Things don't occur in a time vacuum. Prior to AJ and Wilder there was Wlad, the boxing equivalent of a gigantic chloroform blanket over U.S. boxing fandom... for well over a decade. Waking up from this slumber takes more than one or two fights. It doesn't help that Wilder started off his career fighting a multitude of bums. He's since corrected that.


    2. AJ isn’t a great, nowhere near it, he’s the best of the current bunch, that’s all. Consequently , that’s why it won’t sell on a Saturday afternoon in the States.

    The guy who dethroned Wlad?? (I don't count Fury). In one of the most exciting heavyweight title fights in recent memory?? Now you're selling AJ short. So he's basically God in the UK.... but a nobody in the States? Nah... I don't buy it.

    3. If I’m wrong and it is a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, and it is a $100 million fight, then Wilder’s team will have no trouble stumping up an offer to get AJ over there. And if AJ refuses to take the bait, then they can start to say AJ is ducking Wilder.

    One thing I'll agree on with everyone else is that Wilder's team is shitty at self-promotion. I can't say where the fight should be, other than to also agree it would have a much bigger gate in the UK than in the States. They're both undefeated champions, representing countries with a vast tradition of boxing rivalry. All I'm saying is that should be worth something.

    I agree Wilder has piss poor promotion but for 10 years no one gave a shit about the heavyweight division here in America. After a Floyd fight people would talk boxing a bit and they would ask me who the heavyweight champ was. Putting this all on Wilder is a bit much. His " I want to kill someone" comment is probably the most press he ever got here. When you pick up the New York Times or other major paper rarely do they have anything about boxing. There would always be a few articles about Floyd up or Manny around fight time, I've read a couple on GGG and Canelo but boxing is a very niche sport here and the heavyweight division even more so. If u are blaming Wilder for screwing up the division u are giving him way to much credit. He is trying to get out and do interviews etc but this will not be an overnight revival of the heavyweight division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    See below.



    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Be honest with yourselves. Are you really trying to use Wilder's past fights against powderpuffs to gauge what his following would be for a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, the likes of which haven't been seen in decades? So because the American public has been slow to warm up to Wilder, they would stay home or tune in to something else if and when they find out Wilder is going to be fighting the great AJ? There's two sides to this coin, and it amazes me how many people are only willing to look at one.
    1. Why have the Americans been”slow to warm up” to Wilder? Ans. because he doesn’t compare with what went before him.

    Things don't occur in a time vacuum. Prior to AJ and Wilder there was Wlad, the boxing equivalent of a gigantic chloroform blanket over U.S. boxing fandom... for well over a decade. Waking up from this slumber takes more than one or two fights. It doesn't help that Wilder started off his career fighting a multitude of bums. He's since corrected that.


    2. AJ isn’t a great, nowhere near it, he’s the best of the current bunch, that’s all. Consequently , that’s why it won’t sell on a Saturday afternoon in the States.

    The guy who dethroned Wlad?? (I don't count Fury). In one of the most exciting heavyweight title fights in recent memory?? Now you're selling AJ short. So he's basically God in the UK.... but a nobody in the States? Nah... I don't buy it.

    3. If I’m wrong and it is a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, and it is a $100 million fight, then Wilder’s team will have no trouble stumping up an offer to get AJ over there. And if AJ refuses to take the bait, then they can start to say AJ is ducking Wilder.

    One thing I'll agree on with everyone else is that Wilder's team is shitty at self-promotion. I can't say where the fight should be, other than to also agree it would have a much bigger gate in the UK than in the States. They're both undefeated champions, representing countries with a vast tradition of boxing rivalry. All I'm saying is that should be worth something.

    I agree Wilder has piss poor promotion but for 10 years no one gave a shit about the heavyweight division here in America. After a Floyd fight people would talk boxing a bit and they would ask me who the heavyweight champ was. Putting this all on Wilder is a bit much. His " I want to kill someone" comment is probably the most press he ever got here. When you pick up the New York Times or other major paper rarely do they have anything about boxing. There would always be a few articles about Floyd up or Manny around fight time, I've read a couple on GGG and Canelo but boxing is a very niche sport here and the heavyweight division even more so. If u are blaming Wilder for screwing up the division u are giving him way to much credit. He is trying to get out and do interviews etc but this will not be an overnight revival of the heavyweight division.


    I think I said all that, except for the Wilder screwing up the heavyweight division part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    See below.



    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Be honest with yourselves. Are you really trying to use Wilder's past fights against powderpuffs to gauge what his following would be for a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, the likes of which haven't been seen in decades? So because the American public has been slow to warm up to Wilder, they would stay home or tune in to something else if and when they find out Wilder is going to be fighting the great AJ? There's two sides to this coin, and it amazes me how many people are only willing to look at one.
    1. Why have the Americans been”slow to warm up” to Wilder? Ans. because he doesn’t compare with what went before him.

    Things don't occur in a time vacuum. Prior to AJ and Wilder there was Wlad, the boxing equivalent of a gigantic chloroform blanket over U.S. boxing fandom... for well over a decade. Waking up from this slumber takes more than one or two fights. It doesn't help that Wilder started off his career fighting a multitude of bums. He's since corrected that.


    2. AJ isn’t a great, nowhere near it, he’s the best of the current bunch, that’s all. Consequently , that’s why it won’t sell on a Saturday afternoon in the States.

    The guy who dethroned Wlad?? (I don't count Fury). In one of the most exciting heavyweight title fights in recent memory?? Now you're selling AJ short. So he's basically God in the UK.... but a nobody in the States? Nah... I don't buy it.

    3. If I’m wrong and it is a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, and it is a $100 million fight, then Wilder’s team will have no trouble stumping up an offer to get AJ over there. And if AJ refuses to take the bait, then they can start to say AJ is ducking Wilder.

    One thing I'll agree on with everyone else is that Wilder's team is shitty at self-promotion. I can't say where the fight should be, other than to also agree it would have a much bigger gate in the UK than in the States. They're both undefeated champions, representing countries with a vast tradition of boxing rivalry. All I'm saying is that should be worth something.

    I agree Wilder has piss poor promotion but for 10 years no one gave a shit about the heavyweight division here in America. After a Floyd fight people would talk boxing a bit and they would ask me who the heavyweight champ was. Putting this all on Wilder is a bit much. His " I want to kill someone" comment is probably the most press he ever got here. When you pick up the New York Times or other major paper rarely do they have anything about boxing. There would always be a few articles about Floyd up or Manny around fight time, I've read a couple on GGG and Canelo but boxing is a very niche sport here and the heavyweight division even more so. If u are blaming Wilder for screwing up the division u are giving him way to much credit. He is trying to get out and do interviews etc but this will not be an overnight revival of the heavyweight division.


    I think I said all that, except for the Wilder screwing up the heavyweight division part.
    Yes but I said it better and more concise @TitoFan

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    See below.



    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Be honest with yourselves. Are you really trying to use Wilder's past fights against powderpuffs to gauge what his following would be for a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, the likes of which haven't been seen in decades? So because the American public has been slow to warm up to Wilder, they would stay home or tune in to something else if and when they find out Wilder is going to be fighting the great AJ? There's two sides to this coin, and it amazes me how many people are only willing to look at one.
    1. Why have the Americans been”slow to warm up” to Wilder? Ans. because he doesn’t compare with what went before him.

    Things don't occur in a time vacuum. Prior to AJ and Wilder there was Wlad, the boxing equivalent of a gigantic chloroform blanket over U.S. boxing fandom... for well over a decade. Waking up from this slumber takes more than one or two fights. It doesn't help that Wilder started off his career fighting a multitude of bums. He's since corrected that.


    2. AJ isn’t a great, nowhere near it, he’s the best of the current bunch, that’s all. Consequently , that’s why it won’t sell on a Saturday afternoon in the States.

    The guy who dethroned Wlad?? (I don't count Fury). In one of the most exciting heavyweight title fights in recent memory?? Now you're selling AJ short. So he's basically God in the UK.... but a nobody in the States? Nah... I don't buy it.

    3. If I’m wrong and it is a mega-heavyweight-unification fight involving an American, and it is a $100 million fight, then Wilder’s team will have no trouble stumping up an offer to get AJ over there. And if AJ refuses to take the bait, then they can start to say AJ is ducking Wilder.

    One thing I'll agree on with everyone else is that Wilder's team is shitty at self-promotion. I can't say where the fight should be, other than to also agree it would have a much bigger gate in the UK than in the States. They're both undefeated champions, representing countries with a vast tradition of boxing rivalry. All I'm saying is that should be worth something.

    I agree Wilder has piss poor promotion but for 10 years no one gave a shit about the heavyweight division here in America. After a Floyd fight people would talk boxing a bit and they would ask me who the heavyweight champ was. Putting this all on Wilder is a bit much. His " I want to kill someone" comment is probably the most press he ever got here. When you pick up the New York Times or other major paper rarely do they have anything about boxing. There would always be a few articles about Floyd up or Manny around fight time, I've read a couple on GGG and Canelo but boxing is a very niche sport here and the heavyweight division even more so. If u are blaming Wilder for screwing up the division u are giving him way to much credit. He is trying to get out and do interviews etc but this will not be an overnight revival of the heavyweight division.


    I think I said all that, except for the Wilder screwing up the heavyweight division part.
    Yes but I said it better and more concise @TitoFan


    That's why I keep you around @walrus

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