GGG vs Vanes

[Alpha]

I'm disappointed they couldn't force the IBF mando against Derevyanchenko, but can understand both deserving a full camp to prepare for each other. Vanes is pretty tough and a better opponent than O'Sullivan in my opinion, I think his inactivity hurts him tho. GGG deserves to get in the ring and fight, he held up to his side of the deal, he should get a payday of some sort.

[Fenster]

Why is the onus on Golovkin to cancel his date? He's been planning/training for this date since last year, the other top fighters could have changed their plans, took him on short notice, took a paycut if they were so desperate to meet him (which is an oxymoron).

Just look how he made his name. How many boxing stars offer themselves up for peanuts, short notice date fillers against anyone anywhere? In the past 10 years the man has fought in - Germany, Denmark, Panama, Russia, Ukraine, Monte Carlo, Kazakstan, London and all over the States, New York, California, Connecticut and Vegas. He's moved his family to live in at least three different countries, all with different cultures and languages.

Virtually every American is paranoid about leaving the States, many HOFers, your heroes, go entire careers with "home advantage" let alone travel abroad. Any win by a Brit on foreign soil gets 100-x the kudos. The vast majority of stars are mollycoddled from day one, hunted by the biggest, richest outfits in boxing.

Golovkin is the last fighter who deserves criticism for doing his job.

[Ron Swanson]

It isn't where you fight no matter how much slickster wants to deceive. It's who you fight. He always wants to turn it into an American thing but the fact he doesn't want you to know behind his deception is historically, yes, Americans fight in America, and it can not be question no matter how much the deceitful try that Americans fight better fighters.

Lately, I don't know. But go ahead folks defend another shite GGG opponent. You've been doing it for years, no reason to stop now. In fact, I'd like to hear one of the classics, tell me how good Rosado is ,😈

[Gandalf]

It's an awful fight. I wouldn't mind if it was to stay busy and fight some meaningful opponents, but if it is to then be about fighting Canelo again? Well, fuck 'em. I am just not interested. I want to see GGG fight people he hasn't already beaten. A Canelo circus really means nothing except money.

[Fenster]

It's easy to say that with your privilege and double standards. I never make anything an American thing, that's your paranoia.

Giving an opinion is not being deceiving or slick. I fully understand why people are disappointed Golovkin is not fighting a bigger threat. If it was up to me Golovkin would be fighting the very best, hardest possible opponent available. Like spoilt little children boxing fans always demand more, more more. I get it.

[Alpha]

Canelo's to blame in all this. GGG may have been able to postpone but money has already been spent in getting to this point, not to forget all the training. I do hope he goes another route than Canelo tho, get this fight out of the way, then target BJS, Charlo, Derevyanchenko or Murata.

[Ron Swanson]

It's easy to say that with your privilege and double standards. I never make anything an American thing, that's your paranoia.

Giving an opinion is not being deceiving or slick. I fully understand why people are disappointed Golovkin is not fighting a bigger threat. If it was up to me Golovkin would be fighting the very best, hardest possible opponent available. Like spoilt little children boxing fans always demand more, more more. I get it.

Haha, I'm not disappointed. I expected it. I was a huge huge fan when nobody knew who he was. Then I saw the trend, the double talk that always led away from hard fights. But here you are deceiving again, "demand more more more" for simply wanting the MW champion to fight one of MANY worthy contenders rather than a JR
MW who hasn't won since 2015 and that was against Ishe Smith. It's not asking for more more more that if he insists on fighting a JR MW he chooses a top JR MW hahaHa

I feel for you man, having to work so hard to defend the indefensible. The fight is pathetic. That it is a stop gap to Canelo in September is pathetic.

[TitoFan]

Canelo should be totally out of the GGG picture by now. As was said earlier, this mess was entirely CANELO'S FAULT, and has put Golovkin in a very bad, seemingly unwinnable position. Damned it you do, damned if you don't. Meanwhile Ginger gets a laughable 6-month suspension, and again as was said earlier, is laughing his contaminated meat ass off and getting a little vacation to boot. It was Canelo who derailed the train..... and GGG is supposed to run around salvaging the pieces so us fans won't get mad?? Fukk that shet! Look at their respective records. You gotta look at the whole picture, not just this one fight. GGG has taken on anybody who has wanted him at 160. Meanwhile, Canelo has played ring-around-the-rosies with weight divisions as long as we can remember. Golovkin has slowly earned his notoriety, not having the luxury of having been born with a silver spoon in his mouth. So now, because precious Ginger gets caught cheating (something he's done for a LONG TIME)..... Golovkin gets burned at the stake?!? Grow up, people.

[Master]

This is why I want Golovkin to fight, beat and destroy Canelo in September.

[Beanz]

It's easy to say that with your privilege and double standards. I never make anything an American thing, that's your paranoia.

Giving an opinion is not being deceiving or slick. I fully understand why people are disappointed Golovkin is not fighting a bigger threat. If it was up to me Golovkin would be fighting the very best, hardest possible opponent available. Like spoilt little children boxing fans always demand more, more more. I get it.

Haha, I'm not disappointed. I expected it. I was a huge huge fan when nobody knew who he was. Then I saw the trend, the double talk that always led away from hard fights. But here you are deceiving again, "demand more more more" for simply wanting the MW champion to fight one of MANY worthy contenders rather than a JR
MW who hasn't won since 2015 and that was against Ishe Smith. It's not asking for more more more that if he insists on fighting a JR MW he chooses a top JR MW hahaHa

I feel for you man, having to work so hard to defend the indefensible. The fight is pathetic. That it is a stop gap to Canelo in September is pathetic.

Being on a boxing forum with the name Saddo would kind of indicate that here actually many people knew exactly who he was. Myself and Dia were bigging up his and BJS, long before they became the names they are now. Although If i remember rightly even when still an Amateur at Olympic level, if i remember rightly, Dia said that BJS while technically a great boxer. might struggle without the power he would need as a pro. I thought his technical ability, speed and fluidity in defense would be enough to counter that and so far it has seemed to work.

Hopefully after this mess GGG and BJS can give us all a classic for the Saddos and Purists. For me it's a win, win match up. If BJS manages to stop Golovkin pinning him down and getting his work done, or if GGG manages to slow Saunders down in a war of attrition it's all good. It's a fascinating fight that even an early knockout would not ruin too much. If anything the Cownelo gate affair just adds to Golovkins record now. Everyone can see he fought someone for whom the scales were weighted in many more ways than one and more than held his own. He beat him on everything but the cards.

[Hulk]

I'm disappointed they couldn't force the IBF mando against Derevyanchenko, but can understand both deserving a full camp to prepare for each other. Vanes is pretty tough and a better opponent than O'Sullivan in my opinion, I think his inactivity hurts him tho. GGG deserves to get in the ring and fight, he held up to his side of the deal, he should get a payday of some sort.

Fair assessment. Far as I could tell Spike looked cool with his fancy old timely mustache and I’m sure is tough, but didn’t have much of a world class resume. Vanes does at 154...sorta...tho he’s had a couple of gifts as I recall. One against ouma I think.